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Elfberserker

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Hmmm.

Tulu Huodu did have some business attend in the city, yes?
I wonder, if it's related to the boss sword.

I hope that Zhang Jue doesn't have any other plan than fighting against sword Saint.
Codex paranoid rule requires me to assume that two of them or either of them have somekind of plan for the big sword.

I am kind of starting to warm up to flopping to B
I must ponder this before commiting to anything.
 

Baltika9

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Voting B, since A seems like a bad idea to me given the company we keep and the amount of Nie's lackeys that will surround us.
 

Kz3r0

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Here you go:

1. Zhang Jue
2. Shangguan Chuji
3. Tulu Huodu
So the great plan is to 'lose' the sword and put the blame on someone else?
Zhang Jue doesn't seem likely, even if that will make us traitors as well being his apprentice.
The Sword Saint seems unlikely as well.
Tulu Huodu would mean the extermination of the Wu-Du cult, Chi Qilin included and us as well for our ties with them, this seems more probable, Madame Nie's revenge?
 

Kz3r0

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It also occurred to me that Madame Nie having been the waifu of the Wu-Du cult leader knows their poisons, this will explain all the poisoning going around and also why such poison can be hard to detect even for the Wu-Du cult, knowing their secrets she knows how to modify poisons in a way hard to detect even for them.
Considering that someone tried to put the blame on the Wu-Du cult for the poisoning of the empreor as well I wonder if this is all part of the same scheme, in this case Madame Nied seems hell bent to destroy the Wu-Du cult and overthrow the emperor or maybe support a different prince than Shun.
I am guessing then that they want the Wu-Du cult destroyed and Shun dead.
Any idea in how to prevent that?
 

Elfberserker

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Flopping to B

It's risky, but we could potentially get good information.
Bai Jiutian isn't likely to alert everyone on sight on us, but there is a chance that she will betray of her own status is
compromised.

 

Baltika9

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Any idea in how to prevent that?
Of course:
torture9_290.jpg
 

Grimgravy

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B

Let the scared old man have his way in public. We look good doing it, and then we can try to mess with him from the shadows.
 

Absinthe

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Voting A.

It'll be hard for anything funny to happen to the sword this way and if a fight does break out, we'll be there for it.

Also, treave, can we just glance around and see if Shun indicates anything to Jing? Shun and Jing have a private way of signaling things.
 

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I'm definitely voting A here, it's too funny a situation to pass up and we might get to the fighting that I'd hoped this tournament would break down to.

“For the Emperor!” shouts Shun anonymously from the sidelines. “Long live the Emperor!”

died laughing
 

treave

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Also, treave, can we just glance around and see if Shun indicates anything to Jing? Shun and Jing have a private way of signaling things.

At the moment, Shun isn't indicating any directions to you. He to seems to be just watching things play out.
 

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You expect this to be corrected by turning up the chance to start a hilarious troll journey across China to deliver the sword to an emperor who was with us all along with chances to troll the orthodox the whole time in favor of sneaking behind Nie Wuxing while he goes on his all-important mission exactly as he initially intended?
 

Baltika9

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And then jumping out of the bushes, Shulgi style, and trolling him in his moment of triumph.
Also, fucking with him on his journey.
 

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A strange feeling wells forth from deep inside you. There is something about the sword that feels… odd.
B - I think something is wrong with the sword. Giving it to Shun may actually be their plan. Madam Nie does seem to be well informed:
Madam Nie said:
You were raised as the prince’s right-hand man, were you not?
I find it hard to believe she doesn't know the Emperor is here and if their plan is to give him a cursed blade, then perhaps she doesn't care whether it's done here or somewhere else. Granted, it would be better if NW looked good by delivering it personally though.

Of course, it could be that Shulgi the demon might be reacting badly to something innate about the sword and it's really fine. If that's the case, D would be our best bet. We have no way of knowing though.

edit: oh, and from treave's disclaimer, A sounds like quite a few of the other sword holders might have to go somewhere else after the conference and leave us to be ganged up on by Nie and his cronies.
 

Esquilax

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Lambchop19, while we may have little to go on, I am pretty confident that Madame Nie and the Douchebag Crew have no idea that Shun is here: why go through this whole charade in the first place then? They certainly have ulterior motives, and given that we got a bad vibe from the Xuanyuan Sword, I am fairly sure that these two things are somewhat connected. You have an anti-government organization like Luoying Manor that has somehow managed to acquire the Xuanyuan Sword, and now Nie Wuxing is rallying support on the basis that he wants to acquire it for the Emperor? There is something strange about this and I can't help but feel that there is an element of collusion with Lady Ji's "sister" here as well. And we haven't even seen Lady Ji herself thus far.

Oh, and how the hell did Nie Wuxing know so much about us?

“You were raised as the prince’s right-hand man, were you not? It is a pity you did not come to Huashan when you were sent away; we could have raised you to greater heights,” smiles Nie. “Your recent actions in Youxia were also… interesting, to say the least. So, what do you say? Will you join me in serving the Emperor’s cause tomorrow? I know you have influence over a few others… your assistance will serve to make tomorrow’s conference merely a formality.”

I guess she could have learned such a thing from the Zhang Clan, but another source could have been Luoying Manor. Side note: Fuck this guy for suggesting he could have raised us to greater heights than Lord Zhang has.

oh, and from treave's disclaimer, A sounds like quite a few of the other sword holders might have to go somewhere else after the conference and leave us to be ganged up on by Nie and his cronies.

This is a fair point:

A. You argue that this is a gesture from the wielders of the Great Swords, and so it is only fair and right that all of them make the trip to Chang’an to present the sword together. You are aware that not everyone might be able to make the trip, but those who can, should. With such a large group of people – plus everyone waiting for you back on the mainland – it would be near impossible for Nie’s people to pull off anything.

Out of our allies, Song Lingshu will definitely go because she's stuck with us. Murong Yandi is a question mark because he goes wherever his eccentric, wandering Master goes. Guo Fu might stick it out with us out of a sense of loyalty because we returned the Qixing Longyuan Sword to Wudang, but he might have further business at Wudang after the Conference. Of those two, I think Guo Fu is most likely to remain, but nothing here is really certain.

Speaking of Guo Fu, C is an intriguing way of cockblocking Nie Wuxing, but he is just too stupid to see all the political plots that are surely going to be unraveling around him if he is escorting the Sword. It's a dangerous mission for someone like him, and it seems like it will at best postpone whatever counter-measure Nie Wuxing has planned, at worst, lead to our buddy getting killed because we put him in the crosshairs.

On that note, I guess I'll go with B. There is still some time before Wuxing reaches Chang'an, and since we are in need of information, we should let him have his victory for now.
 

Absinthe

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Guo Fu would come because it's an extremely important mission. Our own crew is a given. The Sword Saint will probably also come if we set up a recipe for a massive clusterfuck where supreme sword skills are needed to get shit under control. He doesn't trust Nie Wuxing any more than we do. He only skipped on the conference due to illness.

I'd prefer to hand Nie Wuxing a clusterfuck than to enable him. The sword might bite him in the ass, but we don't know for sure and I'd rather keep an eye on it, to be safe.
 

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong
You expect this to be corrected by turning up the chance to start a hilarious troll journey across China to deliver the sword to an emperor who was with us all along...
...with The Holy Maiden, The Child Elder, and The Southern Maniac in tow. That's, like, the ultimate pilgrimage. Wuxing will spend most of the journey hiding under the Twins' skirts.

Can't pass that one up.

Oh, and how the hell did Nie Wuxing know so much about us?
Unlike Wuxing, Madam Nie is not blind.
"I was worried that you would have ideas of your own, but my wife pointed out to me your acts of service to the Tang. I knew then that you are a patriot, just like me.”

“Acts… of service?” How much do they know?

“You were raised as the prince’s right-hand man, were you not? It is a pity you did not come to Huashan when you were sent away; we could have raised you to greater heights,” smiles Nie. “Your recent actions in Youxia were also… interesting, to say the least."
It is probably not a hard thing to do a bit of research if you know what to look for.

If Tulu Huodu figured it out, so can she.
 
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Absinthe

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Considering we're the sworn enemy of the Zhang family, I think our palace connections were easily exposed.

We also get more opportunities to mess with Bai Jiutian, etc.
 

Esquilax

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Well, as Xu Jing, if you don't know what the right move is (and we really don't here), it is best to err on the side of trolling. WQS has steered us wrong before, +1 SWORDS has steered us wrong before, but trolling has never steered us wrong. Nevill has convinced me. This sounds like fun.

Flopping to A
 

a cut of domestic sheep prime

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Lambchop19, while we may have little to go on, I am pretty confident that Madame Nie and the Douchebag Crew have no idea that Shun is here: why go through this whole charade in the first place then?
Why? Here are a few plausible reasons:
If you want to appear to be an innocent servant of the empire, you'd better not let the emperor know you've been keeping such close tabs on his whereabouts that you know where he is even when he's supposed to be undercover. Besides, there's a chance that he only told a select few people about his trip and revealing their intel on him may help Shun in tracking down the mole in his network. Lastly, they could have heard a rumor that Shun would be there and without knowlegde of whether or not said rumor is true, they opperate under the assumption it is false because the sword needs to get to him somehow.

Anyway, this is all rather inconsequential. Even if they don't have a clue that he's there, if the sword is cursed somehow, it won't matter whether they know he's there or not. Shun would be screwed and their mission accomplished.

PS: You make a valid point about Guo Fu being too simple to comprehend the politics. Reminds me of the Blackadder where they get Baldrick elected so they can win a vote, only to have him be manipulated into voting against them due to his being a retard.

edit: uh oh. I have a feeling this vote isn't going to end well.
 

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