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Jester

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i vote A
I must start leading Senya to enlightenment.
:troll:
"Heroes let people down" as we saw in Ean chapters and backstabbers must cope with lots of stress as we saw in Dio chapters so screw B.

Ps. Stop making Senya into Ean (lets get at least one character laid)... emmm fall from paladin road.
 

Bloodshifter

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O.O

...Guys we are not Building Character here its

The Path You Remember

I know its hard for Codex to look back on its actions but think

We will get out of here Faster if we Follow the "History" or Choose a '3rd-Party Interrupt'

Pussy is in the Real World Virtual one won't let go till we COMPLETE it.

And... Tally!

A-2-Smashing Axe , Jester ,
B-3-TOME , Azira , Kayerts ,
C-3-Storyfag , Kipeci , root ,

Oh and Welcome the New Blood to EPIC I hope you Enjoyed our Stumbling and Awesomeness up to this point!
 

Kipeci

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I'm not building character nor going on the path I remember, I'm running off to the wilderness and disregarding those choices. Continuing to sink our time into this is dodgy.
 

Kipeci

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I never wanted to participate in the game, I wanted to run off down the staircase as I voted before. If I have the option to do that, I should take it.
 

Jester

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...Guys we are not Building Character here its
Yes we aren't building it but every decision we make change and shape our character and not being able to sacrifice something we hold dear will have its own repercussion on Senya's Psyche.

The Path You Remember
I know its hard for Codex to look back on its actions but think
We will get out of here Faster if we Follow the "History" or Choose a '3rd-Party Interrupt'
Pussy is in the Real World Virtual one won't let go till we COMPLETE it.
Yes you are probably right, so? What i wish to get here is information and time for Senya to think about few things getting out quickly is not my priority and that protect it option is to interesting to pass without the fight. People are already harmed by our decisions, we are labeled as traitor damage (quite possible both are irreparable) is done. Maybe if we will give him some time guilt will catch up to him. That would be interesting and perhaps it will add question "Was it worth it, sucker?" (entertaining it is and it can highlight few things).

And... Tally!
This time I wasn't left at home or New York it seams.

:troll: course i am joking.


Oh and Welcome the New Blood to EPIC I hope you Enjoyed our Stumbling and Awesomeness up to this point!
If im included i can say only that there is huge problem with this CYOA... that I didn't stumbled across it sooner. Other than that its interesting and often humorous.
 

treave

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B - 4
C - 3
A - 1

Surpriez updaet. I want to get this out of the way before we head into the weekend. Update incoming in 15 minutes.

edit: Oops, sorry about missing your vote, Rex. My apologies to anyone who hasn't voted either.
 

treave

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Connected

The moment Anhur's outstretched hand touches the Lothal, it flickers and disperses in a burst of static. The remnants of the enemy frames vanish too, leaving behind only my broken and battered mech in the sky.

"I see that you would sacrifice my daughter to save the world." I hear the Emperor's voice coming from the intercom.

"This world is false. It doesn't really matter what I do here. I am merely repeating the actions I have taken in real life by stopping the drop."

"Would you have stopped Lothal if it meant Kyrie’s death in real life?”

“I…” Not for the first time, hesitation strikes me.

“Do you know how close this particular scenario came to playing out in the real world?”

“I would have found a way.” I mutter.

“There would not have been a third option.”

“Then I would have chosen the world.” I say, more out of a desire to be contrary as I recognize that my words lack commitment. When did I start thinking I was some sort of hero and an ally to justice?

The Emperor speaks up, as if reading my mind. “Sometimes the only thing you can do is the task laid out in front of you. If that necessitates making a painful sacrifice so others may be gifted hope, that makes you a hero.”

I remain silent, not knowing what to say.

“There is no need to be confused. I have faith in you. Now, let us examine what you have done here. The world as we know it came about because man desires peace in his heart. Oh, you may say that there is always death and strife and all sorts of bloodshed,” says the Emperor kindly, “but at the end of it all, all that most of us really want is to settle down and have a particularly uneventful, stable life.”

“Most of us?”

“Of course there are… aberrations. But that is expected of any population. No one person is exactly the same. Now, this world that we live in has come about because of that desire. That is what has shaped our history. We fight, yes, but we fight to save ourselves and others from misery and suffering.”

“You are quite the idealist, aren’t you?”

“I know you are pragmatic. There is nothing wrong with pragmatism, but without a cause you would be lost, as you are now. All things in life need balance. Similarly, a peaceful, contented humanity would never progress quickly enough. Humanity’s ingenuity is tested and honed in the fires of conflict. It is at its sharpest and deadliest under the greatest pressure. Our desire to be return to a state of peace makes us search high and low for ever more inventive ways to do so – and if that means advancing technology by leaps and bounds, we will do it. Had Lothal hit, the sheer scale of the disaster would mean the unity of almost all of mankind in order to overcome this adversity. Had it been destroyed, whether riskily in the atmosphere or safely in space, the war would have continued, inflamed by the passions of the people. Either way, man would be put under pressure.”

“Why the rush? Why do we need to progress so quickly, regardless of the cost in lives?”

“I do not know that, because you do not know it either,” says the Emperor apologetically. This is probably part of the program designed to gather my own thoughts.

“Is that what you really think?” asks a third, new voice over the intercom. “Humanity is peaceful? That is why strife allows us to progress? What a joke.” The voice is that of a young boy. I cannot think of anyone else it could be – the boy I saw running down the stairs.

The channel the Emperor is on comes to life, but what I hear is not his voice, but a woman’s. Anna’s voice.

“Damn, something’s wrong with the patterns. Hoshikawa! Wake up! I need to… Wait, what are you doing? Don’t –“

I can hear a wet, sickening thud, the sound of flesh being pounded to a pulp, and the feed cuts off.

“What a fool. She thought she could hide the key from me,” remarks the boy in an cold, arrogant tone. “By the way, thank you for not interfering with my search… though I suppose I could have tricked you into helping me anyway.”

“Don’t get too full of yourself,” I growl. “Who are you?”

“I’m not going to say something like I am you, and you are me. I am not you, and you are not me... but we are one, nonetheless.”

The mech dissolves around me, reduced into small motes of light. The world does the same; the sky cracks and the ground quakes, as reality fractures into ever smaller pieces. Then, I find myself standing back in the hall of the lich. It looks exactly the same, except for one small detail.

The person on the throne is no longer a dusty old corpse, but my younger self, a small smile on his face and the lich’s crown on his head.

"Do you not recognize this place?" he asks, looking around the hall.

"This is the throne hall from Tomb of the Biolich, of course."

The child sighs. "That is wrong. Tomb of the Biolich was a classic text adventure. There is a bit too much detail in these halls to be derived solely from the game. No. This place is created from our memory."

An experimental facility.

"Shangjing." I mutter.

"Welcome to our birthplace." grins the boy. He stands up suddenly and I cannot help but take an involuntary step back. There is something more to him than meets the eye - some terrible madness despite his calm demeanour. I can tell, because it is the same madness that I have felt in me. The guide NPC, who has faithfully followed me to this place, steps in front of me.

"Sir, he is irregular. This is highly dangerous. The program is no longer under control. I suggest-"

She does not finish her sentence before blue cracks appear all over her body. The NPC shatters and crumbles away. The boy gives a dismissive glance at its remains as he puts his hands back into the pockets of his jacket.

"This is where we met God." he whispers. "I brought you here so that you can understand how wrong you are about everything. You are lost. You have no purpose. You stumble about in the dark, wasting your power trying to save lives..."

"Ah, I see. I used to be a genocidal maniac who loves to kill." I'm slightly disappointed, if this is who I was.

"You misunderstand me. What is the point of saving false lives in a false world? Our mission is to awaken their souls. That is the path to true salvation!"

"Ah, now I see. I used to be a fanatical, genocidal maniac." I'm not sure whether to be even more disappointed.

"You have no right to pass judgment, not as you are, liar. What did you say just now - you would sacrifice Kyrie to save the world? What a bad joke. You wouldn't do that."

"You don't know that."

"Oh, I know. I know it too well. You are the sort of person who would save a loved one over a hundred people. A thousand people. A million. A billion. You are selfish in your very nature. In that you are my exact opposite - that is after all why you were made - I am the one who would selflessly sacrifice everything to save the masses.

"You mean, by planning to drop a colony and killing off half of the world? Some saviour you are. Sounds more like a demon to me." I retort.

"You do not listen, do you?" says the boy, his tone carefully neutral. "What you think is reality is just falsehood. We are living in a created world of dreams. Do you know of the nightmare?"

"It is a common term used for bad dreams, but the ancients used the term for a demon of dreams."

"Yes. It was said to torment humans in slumber with frightening visages," muses the boy, his eyes twinkling in a less than sane manner. "But if your bad dream does not culminate in overwhelming terror, how would you know to awaken? The nightmare serves that very role, as a harbinger from your subconscious. What is fear after all, if not the message of salvation that will wake you from your endless slumber? That is our mission. That is who we are. The black nightmare."

"So, I used to be a delusional, fanatical, genocidal maniac. Wait, I suppose a maniac is already insane, in a way..."

"Whether or not you believe the truth is of no concern to me. Besides, I have found a better way to bring about salvation rather than relying on something as unrefined as dropping a massive object on the Earth." says my younger self. "Now, that old immortal bastard promised you knowledge. I offer you knowledge too... that of our origin. Unlike him, I am a truthful person. However, unlike him, I will have you pay a price."

He raises one hand and snaps his fingers. The facility melts away into blackness. A thick, metal door appears in front of me, seemingly out of thin air. It opens, clanging as it does so. A Kyrie model NPC steps out, her long blonde hair tied into two pigtails that hang over the straps of her white summer dress. She looks at me with the same blank, polite expression all the NPCs do. The door swings shut again with an air of finality.

"Dismember and mutilate the NPC, and the door will lead you back to Shangjing and everything that I know," says the boy with a cruel smile. "Do nothing, and it will never open again."

"What are you planning?" I ask, feeling the slight heat of anger rise up in my cheeks. "What is the point of all this?"

"The point is... well, I find myself a bit inconvenienced by your incompetence. I have a great work to accomplish, and I can manage it even if you slumber, but it would be much quicker if you just came around to my point of view," he says disinterestedly. "Besides, I cannot stand the idea of myself - even if it is another me - stumbling around in ignorance, no matter how that might benefit my own goals. Now, I have many things to be done. It has been a long time... Choose wisely, Senya."

He vanishes, leaving me in the void with just the door and the NPC.

***

A. I kill the NPC to open the door. It is not real. It is just a doll. The boy has something planned and even though he may want me to venture through the door, staying here and doing nothing does not seem to help either. I will just have to have faith in my willpower and forge on ahead.

B. I do nothing. I don't think I can do anything. I will sit in the dark and wait for help. Hopefully my lack of cooperation will slow him down and allow someone - perhaps Shulgi - to awaken me from this nightmare. In fact, this might just be another test. I shouldn't get too worried and make a hasty decision.

edit: This choice is rather important so there won't be any surprise updating. At least two days of voting time.
 

Smashing Axe

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Divinity: Original Sin
Voting A for now. Will perhaps flop. Need to think it over. Betting bribes of lore dumpage will win Storyfag over.
 

Azira

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I wonder if by killing the Kyrie NPC we'd be directly affecting Senya's psyche; killing off his emotions towards her? Seems this simulation is more than just a jaunt in the subconscious..
 

Jester

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Would like to vote A but probably its manifestation of Kyrie true psyche and we would become chaotic retard from it even more than our young self, that's my guess. I mean if they could map our brain why not Kyrie.
 

ScubaV

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I think A is the best way to learn more about and eventually confront this dark passenger (to borrow a term from Dexter). It's also the pragmatic thing to do and consistent with our previous choices (sacrifice the few/ourselves to save many). It may have subconscious ramifications, but this Kyrie is only a figment.

It may also be just jarring enough to put us on the path to waking from this dreamstate.

A
 

TOME

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Seems similar to Ean'a adventures in the rift. But instead of torture there is delusional, fanatical, genocidal maniac running around in Senya's body.

B.
 

a cut of domestic sheep prime

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B - For now. Yeah, pretty sure that if we kill the NPC, Kyrie dies...

Our true self just beat the hell out of Anna, or did he?

Hmm. It's odd. If he has control of the program to the point to where he can lock us out of reality - and control of our body to the point to where he can attack Anna - why does he need us to come around to his way of thinking? I think that by "know everything he knows" he means that we'll restore his memories and become him or more like him.

You see guys, this is the choice the previous choice was leading to. Now we're called on to sacrifice Kyrie for real. Or are we?

edit: Also, isn't it great how you guys have no

treave, the crux of the matter for me is, is it the real Kyrie we'll be killing? Can Senya tell?
 

Rex Feral

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Everything went better than expected.

A sounds like a horrible option. We either get possesed, we sacrifice our humanity or worst, we come to terms with this delusional prick.

B.
 

Kayerts

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I think A is the best way to learn more about and eventually confront this dark passenger (to borrow a term from Dexter).


The way the text for choice B is worded, it seems possible that Shulgi might decide that the only way to kill the dark passenger is to take out the driver.

The only way A results in Kyrie's death is if she's in the same facility as Senya's body, which would only be the case if Shulgi snatched her away for the purpose of her watching us decide to sacrifice her. Which is enough of a dick move that he might have done it. But it seems likelier that it just results in eliminating what Kyrie psychologically represents to Senya, with the consequence that the little shit gains greater control over his mind.

Anyway, B; it is better to die for the Emperor's daughter than to live for yourself.
 

treave

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we have an evil mini-me!
...fuck him, too. jesus christ are we to be ALWAYS puppets?

B

One way or another, not for much longer.

As for the NPC, it looks like a normal NPC to you. Remember that being in a virtual world there is no true death though. Everything is data.

As for the reason, Mini-Me already gave one though it is up to you whether you believe that - his control is hampered by you as long as you do not come around to his way of thinking. He might be operating with a handicap as long as you are holding out. It would stand to reason that he believes by knowing everything he does you would become an ally. Of sorts. You might not agree with him even after finding out everything and use the knowledge you now have to regain control, or he might have a set up a trap beyond the door to brainwash you... well, who knows how things will turn out?

Probably one hint I can give here which is commonly available knowledge in the setting and something Senya can consider: time perception in a virtual world and the real world can be de-synced.
 

Kayerts

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We're gonna be so embarrassed when Senya comes back to earth 3000 years after Shulgi put him to sleep.
 

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As for the NPC, it looks like a normal NPC to you. Remember that being in a virtual world there is no true death though. Everything is data.
So if it is her in virtual form somehow, we'll basically be torturing her. Though if it's not her, there is still a big risk. Getting some serious void vibes here. What if this is like Ean's choice with the sphere...?

Time perception is desynched? That means we could think we are waiting for 5 minutes and 5-500 years pass? What good would that do him? He wants us to stop fighting. The sooner the better...

Or it means that in the short time it takes us to kill Kyrie's npc, he could have 10 years to play with our body. And since we aren't resisting him, he could do a ton of damage in the real world... That would fit given that he wants us to not only kill, but dismember her as well - ie, it takes more time.

Sticking with B for now...
 

Bloodshifter

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Teehee I'm so giddy.

We are rewriting our own Personality! Oh jeebuz Shulgi is GOOD. Ahh err hmm... trapped in a world where we are constantly being rewrittened by the choices we make NO wonder its the Path We Remember. Let's see we lost out on being Driven to Excel(War Path), Freelancer(Do what we want Path), and Disillusionment(3-rd Party Interrupt Path), Protection of Loved Ones (Help Princess Path), and Fuck everything its not needed on my Quest(Leave it behind Path). While we Picked Peace for Everyone(Peaceful Path) AND Heroic Ean(Stop the Drop Path).

Ora Ora... You guys are turning the Sweet young man into quite the Faker aren't you?
Pragmatic
Peace Seeking!
Save 10 for 1 No Matter WHO It is!
My My who Invited the White Haired Counter Guardian?

...this is still the Path We Remember Try not to overthink it Dearies!
 

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