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Mass Effect Legendary Edition remaster trilogy

kirin

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i cant tell if it would be better if this were just the usual cynical games journo marketing or if it were sincere
 

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This comparison shot perhaps isn't the best, because the default brightness settings really wash out the environments. The lighting in the original release obviously had more intentionality behind it, but these setting changes make the lack of craft in the remake more tolerable.

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Still looks awful to me compared to the original
 

Tavernking

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The remasters are a huge commercial and critical success. 83% steam rating atm. If you hate it you should avoid Mass Effect 4, because Bioware has got an huge thumbs ups from their audience so they'll be trying to emulate everything they did for this remaster. Codexers will just have to face the fact that their opinions on Mass Effect hold no weight whatsoever
 

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The remasters are a huge commercial and critical success. 83% steam rating atm. If you hate it you should avoid Mass Effect 4, because Bioware has got an huge thumbs ups from their audience so they'll be trying to emulate everything they did for this remaster. Codexers will just have to face the fact that their opinions on Mass Effect hold no weight whatsoever

well this is true for pretty much any market, even if you botch a remaster it'll still be slurped up by artless fucks and the grognards will be left behind. i think by now we're all used to game companies screwing the more passionate fans over in favor of the slavering masses and the Twitter crowd...and the less scrupulous of us will shit on it but still pick it up on a sale or something (myself included, probably)

ah well. I'd buy the original versions just to spite Bioware but there's no way I'm spending nearly 90 bucks, 60 of which is just for the DLC. i only owned ME1 on the 360, ended up yarring the other two because I had PC by the time I was able to play them but didn't want to buy anything from Origin so...yea.
 

Tavernking

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well this is true for pretty much any market, even if you botch a remaster it'll still be slurped up by artless fucks and the grognards will be left behind. i think by now we're all used to game companies screwing the more passionate fans over in favor of the slavering masses and the Twitter crowd...and the less scrupulous of us will shit on it but still pick it up on a sale or something (myself included, probably)

Some of the most passionate fans are the type many codexers despise for being liberals/SJWs etc. Now about them being artless... that's one thing I might agree with if the first game didn't have you doing quick-time events for hacking/making a cure (I've been watching my girlfriend playing the game, those events made me laugh). Mass Effect was always decline in terms of RPG mechanics. I think most people love it more for the characters than the RPG stuff.

It's a shame, because the game would be a lot more fun if they didn't pander to these people, but that's where the money and also where the majority of passionate fans (I know this is debatable) want the series to go.
 
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well this is true for pretty much any market, even if you botch a remaster it'll still be slurped up by artless fucks and the grognards will be left behind. i think by now we're all used to game companies screwing the more passionate fans over in favor of the slavering masses and the Twitter crowd...and the less scrupulous of us will shit on it but still pick it up on a sale or something (myself included, probably)

Some of the most passionate fans are the type many codexers despise for being liberals/SJWs etc. Now about them being artless... that's one thing I might agree with if the first game didn't have you doing quick-time events for hacking/making a cure (I've been watching my girlfriend playing the game, those events made me laugh). Mass Effect was always decline in terms of RPG mechanics. I think most people love it more for the characters than the RPG stuff.

It's a shame, because the game would be a lot more fun if they didn't pander to these people, but that's where the money and also where the majority of passionate fans (I know this is debatable) want the series to go.
this will sell entirely on nostalgia, bioware has no idea who its real fanbase is
 

mogwaimon

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ah well. I'd buy the original versions just to spite Bioware
are you a tard

nah, because I decided against it and just went to see that one in shape woman instead. my money wouldn't influence EA one way or another either way. I guess 'spite Bioware' was perhaps the wrong terminology though, I meant more along the lines of 'look we put 0 work into the remaster...wait why are people still buying the originals' but that's pretty retarded too, I guess, since either way they'd get money. maybe i AM retarded

Some of the most passionate fans are the type many codexers despise for being liberals/SJWs etc. Now about them being artless... that's one thing I might agree with if the first game didn't have you doing quick-time events for hacking/making a cure (I've been watching my girlfriend playing the game, those events made me laugh). Mass Effect was always decline in terms of RPG mechanics. I think most people love it more for the characters than the RPG stuff.

It's a shame, because the game would be a lot more fun if they didn't pander to these people, but that's where the money and also where the majority of passionate fans (I know this is debatable) want the series to go.

i just meant 'passionate fans' in a general sense, because the ones who would care the most about artistic changes like this are the ones who care about the game the most, IMO. the people playing dress-up and naming their kids Garrus or whatever aren't the sort of people I'm talking about because to them, they don't care about the game itself, strictly speaking, they care about the fan fiction and the nostalgia and all the other window dressing. i mean don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Mass Effect back in the day but I'm not super into it like that, nor am I invested enough in it to get pissed about the remaster. I just see the screenshots and think 'huh, this looks like shit. if I ever replay the games, stick to the originals' and move on. But I'm sure there are some people who are that passionate and also have the sense to see the butchery that's taken place
 

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The remasters are a huge commercial and critical success. 83% steam rating atm. If you hate it you should avoid Mass Effect 4, because Bioware has got an huge thumbs ups from their audience so they'll be trying to emulate everything they did for this remaster. Codexers will just have to face the fact that their opinions on Mass Effect hold no weight whatsoever
You rated my comment fake news but if you check the steam database website you can see that the base price for mass effect 1 went up sharply in 2020

As late as Dec 2019 the base game was £7.99, then in 2020 it went to to £17.99, more than double.
 
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Tavernking

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The remasters are a huge commercial and critical success. 83% steam rating atm. If you hate it you should avoid Mass Effect 4, because Bioware has got an huge thumbs ups from their audience so they'll be trying to emulate everything they did for this remaster. Codexers will just have to face the fact that their opinions on Mass Effect hold no weight whatsoever
You rated my comment fake news but if you check the steam database website you can see that the base price for mass effect 1 went up sharply in 2020

As late as Dec 2019 the base game was £7.99, then in 2020 it went to to £17.99, more than double.

I did check, and now I've found that's only for the UK. USA and Australia the prices are the same as ever.
 

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Insanity does get harder. It seems as if they just balanced it for NG, so that the first few levels aren't insanely hard. It's still easier than the original, but it's not the complete push over that the first few levels suggest.

Anyhow, replaying this makes me realize how much I hate those fucking Mako levels. I always go through at the start, and just play them all to get them out of the way. Most are skippable, but some (like the Geth base missions) have some fairly important pay off, so I hate skipping them.

Honestly, replaying it makes me realize how tiny ME's missions are. ME 2's missions are tiny too, but there's just so fucking many of them you don't notice. However, ME1 is a really short game. If you don't fuck around with side quests you could probably beat it in like 8 hours.
 

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The remasters are a huge commercial and critical success. 83% steam rating atm. If you hate it you should avoid Mass Effect 4, because Bioware has got an huge thumbs ups from their audience so they'll be trying to emulate everything they did for this remaster. Codexers will just have to face the fact that their opinions on Mass Effect hold no weight whatsoever
They've just had to re-release a game that was all of these things back in 2007/10 when it first released with the story, characters, dialogues, cinematics, gameplay, level design and everything else already done for them (which is likely the main reason for people rating it "highly" in the first place), and in the process of doing that felt the need to make unnecessary changes to various things and fucked up the lighting to such a degree that it seemingly looks worse than the Original did over 10 years ago. This doesn't exactly testify to a high degree of competence but to a "Beamdog"-like parasitism of old franchises that almost nobody working there now had much of anything to do with. If you think the BioWare of today or the "BioWare team" that worked on this are able to replicate what even the BioWare of 2007 or 10 could do, you're huffing some strong shit. It's like Blizzard and the WarCraft III Remake, they're in such a sorry state nowadays that even if someone put a gun to their collective head and asked them to make something even as good as the StarCraft II Campaigns between 2010-15, they simply wouldn't be able to.
 
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The remasters are a huge commercial and critical success. 83% steam rating atm. If you hate it you should avoid Mass Effect 4, because Bioware has got an huge thumbs ups from their audience so they'll be trying to emulate everything they did for this remaster. Codexers will just have to face the fact that their opinions on Mass Effect hold no weight whatsoever
You rated my comment fake news but if you check the steam database website you can see that the base price for mass effect 1 went up sharply in 2020

As late as Dec 2019 the base game was £7.99, then in 2020 it went to to £17.99, more than double.

I did check, and now I've found that's only for the UK. USA and Australia the prices are the same as ever.
Nani?! Alright then.
 

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Patch released:
https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect/mass-effect-legendary-edition/news/update-5-17

The following are fixes and improvements we’ve made across all platforms in this update.

General

  • Fixed the main issue where the launcher would crash or become unresponsive on Xbox Series X when using a wireless headset
    • Known issue: This can still happen if you enable/disable a headset in the launcher. A future fix will resolve this issue.
  • Improved iris shaders for better interaction with light and ambient occlusion
  • Minor calibrations, fixes, and stability improvements
Mass Effect

  • Improved terrain textures
  • Fixed an issue where kills for achievements/trophies weren’t tracking correctly
Mass Effect & Mass Effect 2

  • Resolved an issue where the character code would sometimes not display in the squad menu
  • Improvements to pre-rendered cutscenes to reduce occasional artifacts
Mass Effect 2

  • Improved lighting and shadows in some cinematics
  • Minor visual, rendering, and VFX improvements on some levels
  • Resolved minor text issues with achievements
Mass Effect 3

  • Fixed an issue where kills for achievements/trophies weren’t tracking correctly
 

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The remasters are a huge commercial and critical success. 83% steam rating atm. If you hate it you should avoid Mass Effect 4, because Bioware has got an huge thumbs ups from their audience so they'll be trying to emulate everything they did for this remaster. Codexers will just have to face the fact that their opinions on Mass Effect hold no weight whatsoever

And it keeps going up!

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