Mortal Kombat 1 Reboot

[Just Locus]

Compare and contrast to say...Mk Armageddon: Wow i play any match, earn some coins, go to krypt and unlock the thing i want with coins! Simple, clean and no headaches or FOMO bs.

I miss all the super fun side modes... Motor Kombat, Chess Kombat, the three versions of Konquest that were throughout the Midway era.

Not to mention that Koins can also be spent on creating your own character in Armageddon, which was super fun.

 

[Artyoan]

Never use alternate timeline multiverses or time travel as storytelling devices unless the setting is built from the ground up around it (Chrono Trigger).

No better way to sand off any edge to your storytelling, tone, immersion, and characters than to render all advancement undone with extreme ease. Can't even write yourself into a corner because there is no direction that could matter.

Other issues:
-poor art direction with far too realistic influence towards body builds and clothing
-not having consistent faces across games is yet another continuity error that makes no sense to me
-in the coming Age of Trump, make MK women sexy again
-krypts and konquest modes were cool imho

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

The short revival of the franchise died with X.
Guest fighters, time travel, multiverse, the covering up of female ninja characters. Fuck those guys.

Mortal Kombat games have been in a loop of time travel multiverse reboots since Mortal Kombat: Armageddon came out in 2006. Those two things aren’t new.

They do guest characters because the guest characters sell extremely well...and they’ve been doing those since Mortal Kombat 2011. People bitch about guest characters but the people also clearly want them since they keep buying them in large numbers.

 

[Lacrymas]

Soooo, if this game stops getting support, does this mean MK is dead again? What's the plan here?

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

The plan is probably that they just do another game like they used to do. Up until Mortal Kombat 11, and Covid was probably partly responsible for them falling off their regular release cycle, NetherRealm Studios was putting a new fighting game out every two years. They’re do a Mortal Kombat game, then a couple years later they’d do an Injustice game, and then a couple years later it was back to Mortal Kombat.

I kind of wonder if they stick to doing a traditional 2D fighting game. Given how they have always kind of chased trends, I kind of figured this game would be some type of platform fighter after the massive success Super Smash Bros. Ultimate; I was actually kind of surprised to see that this game not only stayed a traditional fighting game, but that they actually dropped the stage interactions. If they did go platform fighter, I don’t think it would really be all that much like Smash Bros. beyond having a platformer elements in a 2D fighting game...but I do think it would be a way to bring stage hazard stuff back into the series.

But who knows what the fuck they do after this. Maybe they just move on to doing another Mortal Kombat game, or maybe they do a new DC game to change up their output. This games sales, given what their MK games have been doing, feels like some shake up is coming at least with regards to how they went about MK1.

 

[Melcar]

The short revival of the franchise died with X.
Guest fighters, time travel, multiverse, the covering up of female ninja characters. Fuck those guys.

Mortal Kombat games have been in a loop of time travel multiverse reboots since Mortal Kombat: Armageddon came out in 2006. Those two things aren’t new.

They do guest characters because the guest characters sell extremely well...and they’ve been doing those since Mortal Kombat 2011. People bitch about guest characters but the people also clearly want them since they keep buying them in large numbers.

There were Mortal Kombat games in 2006?

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

It sounds like the leaks could have been NetherRealm Studios sniffing out leakers. Some Mortal Kombat leaker known as thethiny said they’ve spoken to two insiders that said something similar to the Reddit leaker that kicked all this news off, but, the specifics of the characters that were meant to be in the Pack were all completely different. This thethiny person seems to think NetherRealm is feeding people something to leak with different character lineups to see who’s leaking.

So it’s possible a third Kombat Pack is still happening. Then again, it’s also possible that Kombat Pack 3 was canned, and they’re just using that to get their leakers as well.

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

How to save Mortal Kombat

- They need to reboot the story again I know stupid but they have taken the worst sins of Comic Book writers ever since WB/DC got more involved with them

- MKX style combos and speed

- Less Guest Characters

I fucking HATE guest characters in fighting games they can go fuck themselves, MK1 would have the best launch roster ever to me but the bloat of guests is utterly eroding the style of MK. NRS cannot rely on spectacle and single player story modes anymore. Their story is garbage, the Japanese devs finally learned to implement roll back netcode, and overall the more gimmicky stuff they do like forcing an assist system in a franchise that rarely had it as a main mode or loadouts are useless. MK11 suffered from this where I wanted to have a full moveset not a cucked bare moveset. MKX had the loadout system but each variation was basically a full moveset in their own rights so go back to that.

 

[Lacrymas]

They need to reboot it again to remove any traces of multiple timelines and grand, universe-destroying characters/plots. I don't know how they keep falling into that trap. Have Liu Kang recreate the original MK1 situation again but destroy any possibility to change the timeline ever again. Here's how since the writers are too incompetent - turns out destroying the hourglass just resets the universe to its original state with the exception of characters/forces who aren't affected by the timeline in the first place (gods, titans), have Liu Kang kill the god Shang Tsung and commit suicide in order to destroy the hourglass. No more elder gods and titans since they are dead and can't be affected by the destruction of the hourglass, no more timeline bullshit.

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

They need to reboot it again to remove any traces of multiple timelines and grand, universe-destroying characters/plots. I don't know how they keep falling into that trap. Have Liu Kang recreate the original MK1 situation again but destroy any possibility to change the timeline ever again. Here's how since the writers are too incompetent - turns out destroying the hourglass just resets the universe to its original state with the exception of characters/forces who aren't affected by the timeline in the first place (gods, titans), have Liu Kang kill the god Shang Tsung and commit suicide in order to destroy the hourglass. No more elder gods and titans since they are dead and can't be affected by the destruction of the hourglass, no more timeline bullshit.

Ever since Injustice 1 they have been infected more and more with the worst of capeshit writing tendencies. It also does not help Ever since MK9 they always kind of tie up things they hyped to start new shit. Shinnok coming back, Evil Raiden, they were both taken care of 10 minutes into the new game.

 

[Melcar]

If they reboot the timeline again it will definitely kill MK.

 

[Just Locus]

Here's how since the writers are too incompetent [...]

MK9 had 9 writers
MKX had 4 writers
MK11 had 10 writers
MK1 has 1 writer

I'm not saying that a single writer can't write a good story, but the more moving parts a story has, the more writers you'll need to keep track of it all and make it consistent, if MK1 had a simple narrative with developed characters to keep the plot moving, I don't think we'd need more than 1-2 writers, but obviously it wasn't the case and the story mode suffered for it.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Shinnok coming back, Evil Raiden, they were both taken care of 10 minutes into the new game.

Dark Raiden is probably the biggest wasted plot in the entire series. We had TWO Dark Raidens in two timelines and Midway/Netherrealm managed to never do anything cool with him.

I think Dark Raiden could be awesome if we saw Dark Raiden go full militant. It's still Raiden, he's just giving zero fucks now. Have him rally Earthrealm for full war, strike ALL of Earthrrealm enemies and possible enemies. Essentially MK3 in reverse - Total War with Outworld, Netherrealm and any of the Realms that's full of assholes bent on conquest.

Remember how MKIII and the MKIII part of MK9 was all about Outworld invading Earth? Like that but reverse. Soldiers fighting magical warriors, F-35 flying over Outworld shooting dragons, Shaolin Monks and Lin-Kuei attacking the Tarkata en-masse. Earth invading Outworld.

Everyone is like "Hell yeah finally Outworld is getting its just desserts" while having the dawning realization that Raiden is growing unhinged and tyrannical and becoming more of a loose cannon (imagine Dark Raiden telling the Elder Gods to fuck off). You can even some good guy on good guy action as the good guys break into a civil war about it, leading to another version of the Liu Kang vs Raiden scene (except no one is being manipulated by Kronika here, because she's dead). Imagine Dark Raiden as an OP final boss, as Raiden finally shows his full godly power to the mortals (its implied since the very first game that Raiden is way more powerful than he lets on but Da Rules don't let him use his full power on the mortal world).

Hell, that could be a good Mortal Kombat 2. Just start in a familiar-esque timeline and go from there.

They need to reboot it again to remove any traces of multiple timelines and grand, universe-destroying characters/plots. I don't know how they keep falling into that trap.

I think the idea of the Timelines was cool, kind of "Everything is Canon" situation that could expand the universe a lot. It also built into what was made in MK9.

I think it was too early to go Multiverse/Timeline on the FIRST game of the New Universe. You don't go multiverse until your new universe is established, duh.

 

[rumSaint]

Shinnok coming back, Evil Raiden, they were both taken care of 10 minutes into the new game.

Dark Raiden is probably the biggest wasted plot in the entire series. We had TWO Dark Raidens in two timelines and Midway/Netherrealm managed to never do anything cool with him.

I think Dark Raiden could be awesome if we saw Dark Raiden go full militant. It's still Raiden, he's just giving zero fucks now. Have him rally Earthrealm for full war, strike ALL of Earthrrealm enemies and possible enemies. Essentially MK3 in reverse - Total War with Outworld, Netherrealm and any of the Realms that's full of assholes bent on conquest.

Remember how MKIII and the MKIII part of MK9 was all about Outworld invading Earth? Like that but reverse. Soldiers fighting magical warriors, F-35 flying over Outworld shooting dragons, Shaolin Monks and Lin-Kuei attacking the Tarkata en-masse. Earth invading Outworld.

Everyone is like "Hell yeah finally Outworld is getting its just desserts" while having the dawning realization that Raiden is growing unhinged and tyrannical and becoming more of a loose cannon (imagine Dark Raiden telling the Elder Gods to fuck off). You can even some good guy on good guy action as the good guys break into a civil war about it, leading to another version of the Liu Kang vs Raiden scene (except no one is being manipulated by Kronika here, because she's dead). Imagine Dark Raiden as an OP final boss, as Raiden finally shows his full godly power to the mortals (its implied since the very first game that Raiden is way more powerful than he lets on but Da Rules don't let him use his full power on the mortal world).

Hell, that could be a good Mortal Kombat 2. Just start in a familiar-esque timeline and go from there.

They need to reboot it again to remove any traces of multiple timelines and grand, universe-destroying characters/plots. I don't know how they keep falling into that trap.

I think the idea of the Timelines was cool, kind of "Everything is Canon" situation that could expand the universe a lot. It also built into what was made in MK9.

I think it was too early to go Multiverse/Timeline on the FIRST game of the New Universe. You don't go multiverse until your new universe is established, duh.

The funniest part is OG Mortal Kombat had this ending:

The Dark Raiden could be great way to actually spin story further. Raiden getting high on power, then Liu destroying him and he gets high on power, then cycle continues. But writers don't have balls to do something like this. I was hoping in MK1 Liu Kang would be come new menace as his mind would go twisted with all that power, but they went for multiverse. How fucking lazy.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Shinnok coming back, Evil Raiden, they were both taken care of 10 minutes into the new game.

Dark Raiden is probably the biggest wasted plot in the entire series. We had TWO Dark Raidens in two timelines and Midway/Netherrealm managed to never do anything cool with him.

I think Dark Raiden could be awesome if we saw Dark Raiden go full militant. It's still Raiden, he's just giving zero fucks now. Have him rally Earthrealm for full war, strike ALL of Earthrrealm enemies and possible enemies. Essentially MK3 in reverse - Total War with Outworld, Netherrealm and any of the Realms that's full of assholes bent on conquest.

Remember how MKIII and the MKIII part of MK9 was all about Outworld invading Earth? Like that but reverse. Soldiers fighting magical warriors, F-35 flying over Outworld shooting dragons, Shaolin Monks and Lin-Kuei attacking the Tarkata en-masse. Earth invading Outworld.

Everyone is like "Hell yeah finally Outworld is getting its just desserts" while having the dawning realization that Raiden is growing unhinged and tyrannical and becoming more of a loose cannon (imagine Dark Raiden telling the Elder Gods to fuck off). You can even some good guy on good guy action as the good guys break into a civil war about it, leading to another version of the Liu Kang vs Raiden scene (except no one is being manipulated by Kronika here, because she's dead). Imagine Dark Raiden as an OP final boss, as Raiden finally shows his full godly power to the mortals (its implied since the very first game that Raiden is way more powerful than he lets on but Da Rules don't let him use his full power on the mortal world).

Hell, that could be a good Mortal Kombat 2. Just start in a familiar-esque timeline and go from there.

They need to reboot it again to remove any traces of multiple timelines and grand, universe-destroying characters/plots. I don't know how they keep falling into that trap.

I think the idea of the Timelines was cool, kind of "Everything is Canon" situation that could expand the universe a lot. It also built into what was made in MK9.

I think it was too early to go Multiverse/Timeline on the FIRST game of the New Universe. You don't go multiverse until your new universe is established, duh.

The funniest part is OG Mortal Kombat had this ending:

The Dark Raiden could be great way to actually spin story further. Raiden getting high on power, then Liu destroying him and he gets high on power, then cycle continues. But writers don't have balls to do something like this. I was hoping in MK1 Liu Kang would be come new menace as his mind would go twisted with all that power, but they went for multiverse. How fucking lazy.

Hell yeah, that's what I meant. Dark Raiden even gives the heroes a good reason to fight each other.

Liu Kang going twisted with power seems a bit OC tho, unless he's corrupted somehow.

I always wanted a passing of the torch from Liu to Kung Lao myself, maybe have Kung Lao slowly change from his NuLao egoistical personna to the OG super stoic Midway Kung Lao

 

[Big_poppa_pump]

Shinnok coming back, Evil Raiden, they were both taken care of 10 minutes into the new game.

Dark Raiden is probably the biggest wasted plot in the entire series. We had TWO Dark Raidens in two timelines and Midway/Netherrealm managed to never do anything cool with him.

I think Dark Raiden could be awesome if we saw Dark Raiden go full militant. It's still Raiden, he's just giving zero fucks now. Have him rally Earthrealm for full war, strike ALL of Earthrrealm enemies and possible enemies. Essentially MK3 in reverse - Total War with Outworld, Netherrealm and any of the Realms that's full of assholes bent on conquest.

Remember how MKIII and the MKIII part of MK9 was all about Outworld invading Earth? Like that but reverse. Soldiers fighting magical warriors, F-35 flying over Outworld shooting dragons, Shaolin Monks and Lin-Kuei attacking the Tarkata en-masse. Earth invading Outworld.

Everyone is like "Hell yeah finally Outworld is getting its just desserts" while having the dawning realization that Raiden is growing unhinged and tyrannical and becoming more of a loose cannon (imagine Dark Raiden telling the Elder Gods to fuck off). You can even some good guy on good guy action as the good guys break into a civil war about it, leading to another version of the Liu Kang vs Raiden scene (except no one is being manipulated by Kronika here, because she's dead). Imagine Dark Raiden as an OP final boss, as Raiden finally shows his full godly power to the mortals (its implied since the very first game that Raiden is way more powerful than he lets on but Da Rules don't let him use his full power on the mortal world).

Hell, that could be a good Mortal Kombat 2. Just start in a familiar-esque timeline and go from there.

They need to reboot it again to remove any traces of multiple timelines and grand, universe-destroying characters/plots. I don't know how they keep falling into that trap.

I think the idea of the Timelines was cool, kind of "Everything is Canon" situation that could expand the universe a lot. It also built into what was made in MK9.

I think it was too early to go Multiverse/Timeline on the FIRST game of the New Universe. You don't go multiverse until your new universe is established, duh.

The funniest part is OG Mortal Kombat had this ending:

The Dark Raiden could be great way to actually spin story further. Raiden getting high on power, then Liu destroying him and he gets high on power, then cycle continues. But writers don't have balls to do something like this. I was hoping in MK1 Liu Kang would be come new menace as his mind would go twisted with all that power, but they went for multiverse. How fucking lazy.

Hell yeah, that's what I meant. Dark Raiden even gives the heroes a good reason to fight each other.

Liu Kang going twisted with power seems a bit OC tho, unless he's corrupted somehow.

I always wanted a passing of the torch from Liu to Kung Lao myself, maybe have Kung Lao slowly change from his NuLao egoistical personna to the OG super stoic Midway Kung Lao

Tobias said that Kai was going to be the next protagonist but when that entire story line flopped we went back to constant rehashes.