P:T leaves a lasting impression that catapults it towards the top of videogame experiences, but is barely replayable. I think it makes perfect sense.I must say, this shapes to be a very interesting list - particularly interesting to compare it to the official top 101. The top 10-15 games of both lists seems mostly the same - although in drastically different order - but there's one big exception. Planescape: Torment, the game voted as the Codex's favorite over and over again is nowhere near the top of replayed games. Although I wouldn't separate original and EE the way it's done in the current list, even combined they only bring PST to nr. 16-23 (many games tied with 4 votes each).
A videogame can easily be just a way to convey a story, and the long-lasting impact of that story can be more important than its replayability and the sheer amount of fun you can have with it.Yeah, I'm not sure about that. If a game is no fun to replay - especially after so many years - that it essentially fails as a game, even if it excels as a story, or some other form or linear media.
I don't think a videogame necessarily needs to be replayable.Yeah, I'm not sure about that. If a game is no fun to replay - especially after so many years - that it essentially fails as a game, even if it excels as a story, or some other form or linear media.
What differs games from linear media is gameplay and interactivity. If gameplay is good, then the game is fundamentally replayable - not necessarily right away, you might want to let a couple of years pass for the systems to feel new again - but the possibility is always there. Even a puzzle game that doesn't allow any variation in how you solve it can be fun to replay once you've forgotten most of the solution.I don't think a videogame necessarily needs to be replayable.
Sure, but if that's the case - if gameplay doesn't matter and interactivity at the very least doesn't affect the story - in other words, if it doesn't make use of what makes a game a game - then it's a clear symptom that it would have been better off as a book or a movie.A videogame can easily be just a way to convey a story
I was sure this is a better indicator of "best game of this year according to the Codex" than a poll which limits us to the current year releases. The value increases if it's held annually and the trends are followed, but ultimately it's just meta information about the evolution of the Codex' preferences. Not very useful to anyone outside and only fulfilling a curiousity for those within the Codex.I must say, this shapes to be a very interesting list - particularly interesting to compare it to the official top 101. The top 10-15 games of both lists seems mostly the same - although in drastically different order - but there's one big exception. Planescape: Torment, the game voted as the Codex's favorite over and over again is nowhere near the top of replayed games. Although I wouldn't separate original and EE the way it's done in the current list, even combined they only bring PST to nr. 16-23 (many games tied with 4 votes each).
True. And that's why Disco became RPGOTY in 2019. It wasn't the most played, but it was the best.Sure,but goty is a different thing. It is about the best game that came out this year,not the most played game. It is just different thing. If you this kind of a poll every year,you will see that the results are pretty much the same. There is a handful of good rpgs that people just replay periodically.
No way! It was Pathologic 2!but it was the best
Yes,disco won both polls. Can't wait for the expansion or what ever it is. It will be a fun replay.True. And that's why Disco became RPGOTY in 2019. It wasn't the most played, but it was the best.Sure,but goty is a different thing. It is about the best game that came out this year,not the most played game. It is just different thing. If you this kind of a poll every year,you will see that the results are pretty much the same. There is a handful of good rpgs that people just replay periodically.
I get what you are saying, but come on, you know deep down that's not true, especially in the case of P:T. Simply being allowed to experience the story in first-person makes everything feel more personal: I don't think that everything you uncover about your companions and your role in their past would have had the same effect on me if experienced through a book or a movie. I think that especially applies to your interaction with characters like Deionarra, Morte, Dak'kon, Vhailor, Ravel, and Trias.Sure, but if that's the case - if gameplay doesn't matter and interactivity at the very least doesn't affect the story - in other words, if it doesn't make use of what makes a game a game - then it's a clear symptom that it would have been better off as a book or a movie.
Think about how this compares to other media. Apocalypse Now is widely regarded as one of the greatest films ever, but do you feel like rewatching it every year? I don't. Novels like Don Quixote and The Brothers Karamazov are brilliant and worth reading at least once, but you probably wouldn't want to reread them all the time either.I must say, this shapes to be a very interesting list - particularly interesting to compare it to the official top 101. The top 10-15 games of both lists seems mostly the same - although in drastically different order - but there's one big exception. Planescape: Torment, the game voted as the Codex's favorite over and over again is nowhere near the top of replayed games. Although I wouldn't separate original and EE the way it's done in the current list, even combined they only bring PST to nr. 16-23 (many games tied with 4 votes each).
Think about how this compares to other media. Apocalypse Now is widely regarded as one of the greatest films ever, but do you feel like rewatching it every year? I don't. Novels like Don Quixote and The Brothers Karamazov are brilliant and worth reading at least once, but you probably wouldn't want to reread them all the time either.I must say, this shapes to be a very interesting list - particularly interesting to compare it to the official top 101. The top 10-15 games of both lists seems mostly the same - although in drastically different order - but there's one big exception. Planescape: Torment, the game voted as the Codex's favorite over and over again is nowhere near the top of replayed games. Although I wouldn't separate original and EE the way it's done in the current list, even combined they only bring PST to nr. 16-23 (many games tied with 4 votes each).
I've already addressed that in replies to others. There is a fundamental difference between linear media and interactive media.Think about how this compares to other media. Apocalypse Now is widely regarded as one of the greatest films ever, but do you feel like rewatching it every year? I don't. Novels like Don Quixote and The Brothers Karamazov are brilliant and worth reading at least once, but you probably wouldn't want to reread them all the time either.I must say, this shapes to be a very interesting list - particularly interesting to compare it to the official top 101. The top 10-15 games of both lists seems mostly the same - although in drastically different order - but there's one big exception. Planescape: Torment, the game voted as the Codex's favorite over and over again is nowhere near the top of replayed games. Although I wouldn't separate original and EE the way it's done in the current list, even combined they only bring PST to nr. 16-23 (many games tied with 4 votes each).