Game News New KotOR incoming

[Zeriel]

It was always a bad game, with boring combat, camera & controls that run away max speed from any tacticals, largely meaningless exploration in mushy corridors, and a general lack of interesting mechanics around anything. We all played it because (1) Star Wars, (2) Bio was still supposed to be an RPG company, and (3) there wasn't exactly a lot of other stuff, and it wasn't yet quite conclusive to everybody that the turn to cinematic/3D would be completely irredeemable trash.

This post will elicit a lot of butthurt, but it's 100% true.

Will it? I thought the Codex consensus was always that KOTOR was kinda lame. It was only KOTOR 2 that got fellated.

 

[Tacgnol]

It was always a bad game, with boring combat, camera & controls that run away max speed from any tacticals, largely meaningless exploration in mushy corridors, and a general lack of interesting mechanics around anything. We all played it because (1) Star Wars, (2) Bio was still supposed to be an RPG company, and (3) there wasn't exactly a lot of other stuff, and it wasn't yet quite conclusive to everybody that the turn to cinematic/3D would be completely irredeemable trash.

This post will elicit a lot of butthurt, but it's 100% true.

Will it? I thought the Codex consensus was always that KOTOR was kinda lame. It was only KOTOR 2 that got fellated.

Yep, I've never seen anything other than edgy ironic praise for KOTOR on here in all the time I've been around.

It's the second game that many dexers love.

Skyway did have to play Kotor through seven times of course to figure out he didn't like it.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Will it? I thought the Codex consensus was always that KOTOR was kinda lame. It was only KOTOR 2 that got fellated.

KotOR was an okay side step for BioWare... Sort of. I mean, Star Wars d20 still kind of plays like D&D did at the time. That said, the story was pretty decent even though BioWare can't help themselves from trying to be super epic with the end game and that crazy ship factory. The puzzles were all either very, very old school puzzles like that Tower of Hanoi thing or things that have been in games before. BioWare was very "tell, don't show" with all the diaries laying around in case you missed something or they didn't bother making an event for something. That said, I managed to make it through the game once as a light sider and once as a dark sider.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

very old school puzzles like that Tower of Hanoi

It was a 3 water buckets puzzle, not Tower of Hanoi.
Kotor was the first time I came across water bucket puzzle. Felt satisfied when I managed to solve it.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=709698155



Towers of Hanoi is in KotOR.

 

[mondblut]

A report about the rumored remake of Star Wars: Nights of the Old Republic is making the rounds as it has major implications if true. According to the report, the remake is making a major change to the gameplay of the 2003 game in the name of modernity. The report comes the way of YouTuber, host of the Defining Duke podcast, and insider MrMattyPlays, who claims the remake is getting away from the original's real-time turn-based combat system in favor of making the game more of an action RPG.

Ahahahaha. Eagerly anticipating gay Carth Onasi making constant advances to PC, fat black Bastila and genderqueer Mission constantly berating PC for transphobia.

 

[JDR13]

Skyway did have to play Kotor through seven times of course to figure out he didn't like it.

A true Codexer.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=709698155



Towers of Hanoi is in KotOR.

Completely forgot about it It's been years since I last played Kotor.

 

[Naraya]

Possibly some more news about it on May 4th?

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Completely forgot about it It's been years since I last played Kotor.

That's okay, I forgot about the water bucket one until you mentioned it. The Tower of Hanoi thing stood out to me because I programmed a Tower of Hanoi thing in a college class a bit before I played KotOR. The fact that all their puzzles are lifted from somewhere else had been on my mind since I ran across a puzzle from an older game in one of the NWN expansions which was a dead lift of the previous puzzle. It's been too long for me to remember what game and which expansion it was, but it was pretty jarring.

 

[Electryon]

Um... isn't Aspyr a porting studio?

So were Beamdog but that didn't stop them from creating a shovelware BG2 add-on.

It was a BG1 add-on, but don't let a little thing like accuracy get in the way of your narrative.

 

[Fenix]

Expect this olny for sad lulz.

 

[luj1]

Far better than the last three.

 

[luj1]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=709698155



Towers of Hanoi is in KotOR.

Completely forgot about it It's been years since I last played Kotor.

That ring puzzle was great and challenging. When you start the puzzle I think it locks you inside the room. I remember not having saved before that, so I was supper happy when I solved it. I miss when games were challenging.

 

[ADL]

Will it? I thought the Codex consensus was always that KOTOR was kinda lame. It was only KOTOR 2 that got fellated.

KOTOR2 was so good it retroactively ruined KOTOR1 despite being a perfectly acceptable game. Pretty sure that was the sentiment among "RPG enthusiasts" at the time.

 

[Maximilian]

Will it? I thought the Codex consensus was always that KOTOR was kinda lame. It was only KOTOR 2 that got fellated.

KOTOR2 was so good it retroactively ruined KOTOR1 despite being a perfectly acceptable game. Pretty sure that was the sentiment among "RPG enthusiasts" at the time.

It's an undue stretch, for KotOR2 suffers from many of the afflictions typical of the dev community that made it - it's rushed, it's poorly planned, it largely overwritten on top of having even more dialogue scenes that some merciful editor deemed unnecessary (and, due to modders meddling, these unfortunately came back in the 'restoration project'). A rose-tinted glasses view of KotOR2 is almost as optimistic as that of PS:T, another game people (even here, mostly here) get awkwardly lenient about.

 

[Bad Sector]

(and, due to modders meddling, these unfortunately came back in the 'restoration project')

It isn't like you are forced to install the restoration project...

 

[Trojan_generic]

There is no try. Shit everything is.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Far better than the last three.

It's sad how often that happens these days. The most recent trilogy is so bad, it makes the prequel trilogy not just acceptable, but actually decent. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was such shit, it made Temple of Doom watchable again. It's the Hollywood equivalent of, "It could have been worse."

 

[Maximilian]

(and, due to modders meddling, these unfortunately came back in the 'restoration project')

It isn't like you are forced to install the restoration project...

And yet the restoration project is routinely suggested even to fresh players. I've even seen fresh players ruminating about installing the positively dreadful droid planet restoration mod...

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Temple of Doom watchable again

I always liked Temple of Doom. It's so cheesy and over the top, it's difficult to dislike it.

 

[Wunderbar]

Temple of Doom is fucking great and for me it's more rewatchable than Raiders or Crusade.

 

[Butter]

Temple of Doom is the most based film in the series. Indy should spend more time killing savages.