Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Jaesun]

I don't see your responses to Sawyer, Mr. Possibly Retarded.

 

[Kz3r0]

Josh's reply http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60875-merged-cooldown-thread/page__st__440#entry1220381

That is likely more common, but isn't being "wasteful" something that's only appreciated in retrospect? I.e. conservation strategy is only strategic if you have some sort of understanding of what you're going up against. In most cases, you don't know how many enemies you're going to fight, how deep the dungeon is, or what spells any given caster has at his or her disposal. Is it "wasteful" to cast fireball on 6 lizard men? Is it wasteful to cast it on 4 lizard men? What if one of them is a caster and he's casting hold person? What if there are only 30 lizard men on the level?

That's why people buy scrolls too.
Apropos, there will be scrolls?

 

[Lord Andre]

I don't see your responses to Sawyer, Mr. Possibly Retarded.

You mean to his loaded scenarios ?

my name there is andreisiadi, you can see them just fine.

 

[Jaesun]

I don't see your responses to Sawyer, Mr. Possibly Retarded.

You mean to his loaded scenarios ?

my name there is andreisiadi, you can see them just fine.

Do you understand the reason for his loaded questions?

 

[Captain Shrek]

I don't see your responses to Sawyer, Mr. Possibly Retarded.

You mean to his loaded scenarios ?

my name there is andreisiadi, you can see them just fine.

Do you understand the reason for his loaded questions?

 

[Infinitron]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60875-merged-cooldown-thread/page__st__460#entry1220406

GordonHalfman, on 03 October 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

Do you just disagree with the whole concept of managing resources across fights then? I'm curious as to what your stance is on healing potions.

No. I haven't though a tremendous amount about healing points, but that brings up an interesting parallel resource management behavior in RPGs. I've seen (and talked to) innumerable gamers who say they end games with inventories full of consumables: potions, wands, scrolls, etc. The most commonly cited reason they give is that they don't know when is/isn't a good time to use them. Also, because they often have no idea when they might get more, they don't want to run out. It's sort of the inverse problem of rest spamming.

 

[Lord Andre]

I don't see your responses to Sawyer, Mr. Possibly Retarded.

You mean to his loaded scenarios ?

my name there is andreisiadi, you can see them just fine.

Do you understand the reason for his loaded questions?

so he can say that cooldowns are the miracle answers to his loaded scenarios...oh wait I know you're smarter than this so you must be trolling me. My bad. Carry on.

 

[Volrath]

Sawyer, strawmanning?

 

[Infinitron]

I've taken the opportunity to introduce Josh to my theory about the need to reduce OCD behavior in RPGs.

 

[Jasede]

And I'm off to get myself some masala chai. M:

 

[evdk]

I've taken the opportunity to introduce Josh to my theory about the need to reduce OCD behavior in RPGs.

I'll keep my OCD, thank you very much, it fits my play style.

 

[Infinitron]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60875-merged-cooldown-thread/page__st__500#entry1220457

A large number of the people in this thread are talking about a type of spell cooldown I've never suggested for PE (cast a Fireball, unable to cast Fireball again for 30 seconds).

 

[Lord Andre]

I've taken the opportunity to introduce Josh to my theory about the need to reduce OCD behavior in RPGs.

Yeah, only problem is - Sawyer is either a stubborn asshole or 3 inches short of an idiot. Good luck getting through.

I hope Cain and Avallone can control the obvious decline he will bring to the game.

 

[Roguey]

I love emotional roller coasters.

Good to see a) my future boyfriend laying down the law over in the Obsidian forum and b) how all those dropped/lowered pledges did fuck all to the amount of money Obsidian has/is still getting. How does it feel to be insignificant?

 

[tuluse]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60875-merged-cooldown-thread/page__st__500#entry1220457

A large number of the people in this thread are talking about a type of spell cooldown I've never suggested for PE (cast a Fireball, unable to cast Fireball again for 30 seconds).

This is a slightly good sign, but I'm not fully convinced this isn't going to suck.

 

[Infinitron]

Holy heck, Shrek is really laying into him. Call of Duty comparisons.

my future boyfriend

 

[Shadenuat]

I think Alex made a great point (maybe a little vague, but on a right track).
Actually, he made two, but I meant the latter about challenge being the world itself, not just some contained piece after you just regenerate everything and continue on.

 

[Volrath]

Well this has been a fun day, all things considering.

 

[Lord Andre]

Sawyer responds to shrek:

Captain Shrek, on 03 October 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:
The obvious question should be: why even a cool down? Make the regeneration instantaneous!

Locking out access to an entire level of spells once you have exhausted the castings you have available to you at a given level (as a 3E sorcerer would) means that you have to use spells from your other spell levels. This creates a tactical challenge during combat, especially for spells at levels where you do not have many castings available (i.e. typically your highest). Allowing them to regenerate literally instantly means that there is not a tactical consideration; you should just use the most powerful spell for the situation over and over again for the duration of combat.


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There is a very popular example of this model named Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2. They make it even less tedious! The health (sadly only meaningful resource in that game unlike RPGs) regenerates instantly. Why not do that with project eternity as well? I mean that is the least amount of tedium right?

The feeling of challenge is a balance between enjoyment and frustration. It is not the same for every player, but it is almost always at some midpoint between those two emotions. My goal is to use a variety of mechanics to find balance points that appeal to this specific audience, varied as it is. I think that instant health regeneration errs to much on the side of ease for this audience.

Is he trolling his own forums or is he truly so retarded as to not detect the obvious sarcasm in Shrek's post ?

 

[Infinitron]

Perhaps he's trying to make a rhetorical point by giving him a straight answer anyway.

 

[evdk]

Well this has been a fun day, all things considering.

And there are full 2 weeks of the campaign yet to come. Who knows what more entertainment awaits us here?

 

[evdk]

Sawyer responds to shrek:

Is he trolling his own forums or is he truly so retarded as to not detect the obvious sarcasm in Shrek's post ?

I'd say he's just trolling Shrek.

Captain Shrek, on 03 October 2012 - 01:18 AM, said:
Not really Josh. You are probably too busy to get this question correctly. Sorry to intrude on your busy schedule like this.

I don't believe you are sincere.

See?

 

[Lord Andre]

Sawyer responds to shrek:

Is he trolling his own forums or is he truly so retarded as to not detect the obvious sarcasm in Shrek's post ?

I'd say he's just trolling Shrek.

Shrek is trolling back pretty hard too. This is gold entertainment.

 

[Jaesun]

It's not like Sawyer can't read this thread (or whoever does at obsidian).

 

[Lord Andre]

It's not like Sawyer can't read this thread (or whoever does at obsidian).

So, what's your point ? I can post on the codex that Gayder is an idiot but I can't say Sawyer is a retard. Anita wouldn't like the double standard you know.