Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[villain of the story]

"The camera has a fixed axonometric perspective"
Do you also eat meat for your vegan diet, Josh?

That's not "some guy", it's villain of the story

o_O

 

[Grunker]

Reminds me of the black guys on BSN who were pissed that their parents didn't look like their character when creating a Human Noble in DA:O.

 

[Tzaero]

Reminds me of the black guys on BSN who were pissed that their parents didn't look like their character when creating a Human Noble in DA:O.

They should of implemented a quest to track down the man your mother had an affair with.

 

[Sensuki]

Your Dad could have just been Michael Jackson though *shrug*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N68t7NvuTgQ#t=446s

 

[imweasel]

Answers from our lord and savior, the holy father, Josh Sawyer Peace Be Upon Him, etc etc.

He's our savior because Sawyer loves rapidly regnerating health bars and is implemeting them into the game! I'm right, huh? Amiright? Amirite?

Oh no, wait, BioWare already did that with Dragon Age 2. I guess BioWare must be our savior then. :D

 

[Sensuki]

I don't think the rapidly regenerating stamina outside of combat matters really, for any stamina damage you take, you also take 25% health damage, so once you're running low on health (which on harder modes you also get penalties from I think), you need to rest or you're in danger of dying.

It just sorta means that you can do X encounters before having to rest, and mitigates the difference from not having any healing spells.

The only 'gay' thing about it is I guess that it kinda guarantees characters ~3 encounters where they can deplete all stamina before being in danger of dying.

 

[Roguey]

They should of implemented a quest to track down the man your mother had an affair with.

The official out-of-game explanation is that the PC was adopted if you choose a different race. This is one of the things they improved for DA2.

He's our savior because Sawyer loves rapidly regnerating health bars and is implemeting them into the game! I'm right, huh? Amiright? Amirite?

Oh no, wait, BioWare already did that with Dragon Age 2. I guess BioWare must be our savior then. :D

Neither one has rapidly regenerating health in combat.

 

[Infinitron]

The only 'gay' thing about it is I guess that it kinda guarantees characters ~3 encounters where they can deplete all stamina before being in danger of dying.

You're assuming that max stamina and max health will be equal, which won't necessarily be the case(?)

 

[Sensuki]

Not really, if a character gets reduced to 0 stamina 3 times without any in combat stamina regen they would be at 25% health ? But that doesn't take into account how fast a character drops.

Basically the system promotes sharing the damage between characters to try and avoid anyone being in danger of dying before the others I suppose.

 

[Infinitron]

Not really, if a character gets reduced to 0 stamina 3 times without any in combat stamina regen they would be at 25% health

Again, only if max stamina and max health are equal. You lose 4 health points for each stamina point. Points, not percents.

 

[dunno lah]

hmm...i wonder if the enemy will be able to one-shot or at least prioritize killing the targeted party character who is incapacitated...

 

[imweasel]

He's our savior because Sawyer loves rapidly regnerating health bars and is implemeting them into the game! I'm right, huh? Amiright? Amirite?

Oh no, wait, BioWare already did that with Dragon Age 2. I guess BioWare must be our savior then. :D

Neither one has rapidly regenerating health in combat.

Yes. But Dragon Age 2 and Project Eternity have rapidly regenerating health outside of combat.

The only difference is that in P:E you have an upper limit to how much damage you can take, which is not true for DA2... BUT this variable resets when you reach a checkpoint, which is rather often. Wow, what a major difference to the strongly criticized Dragon Age 2 health system.

Sawyer, you're a genius.

 

[J_C]

BUT this variable resets when you reach a checkpoint, which is rather often.

How do you know that?

 

[Sensuki]

1 point of health loss per 4 points of stamina damage is 25%

But yes that is assuming stamina and health are the same value.

Not really, if a character gets reduced to 0 stamina 3 times without any in combat stamina regen they would be at 25% health

Again, only if max stamina and max health are equal. You lose 4 health points for each stamina point. Points, not percents.

 

[imweasel]

BUT this variable resets when you reach a checkpoint, which is rather often.

How do you know that?

It was in one of the updates / Josh's comment on the forum. Something on the line of "often, but not too often".

Don't ask me to look for it, I can't be bothered ATM. I'll look for it later if nobody else posts it.

 

[J_C]

BUT this variable resets when you reach a checkpoint, which is rather often.

How do you know that?

It was in one of the updates / Josh's comment on the forum. Something on the line of "often, but not too often".

Don't ask me to look for it, I can't be bothered ATM. I'll look for it later if nobody else posts it.

Oh, Ok, I remember now. No need to post it.

 

[Infinitron]

I imagine that resting will be allowed in towns as well perhaps in designated areas within the longer dungeons. It could work a lot like the save points in traditional JRPGs, which are the only places where you are allowed to use "Tents" for resting.

 

[Surf Solar]

"Best" encounters: AoD of course. Fallout to some extent. Arcanum (although combat mechanics is bad). BG2. River of Time excepting the temple.

 

[tuluse]

I imagine that resting will be allowed in towns as well perhaps in designated areas within the longer dungeons. It could work a lot like the save points in traditional JRPGs, which are the only places where you are allowed to use "Tents" for resting.

You usually could use them on the world map too.

 

[Infinitron]

I imagine that resting will be allowed in towns as well perhaps in designated areas within the longer dungeons. It could work a lot like the save points in traditional JRPGs, which are the only places where you are allowed to use "Tents" for resting.

You usually could use them on the world map too.

Yeah, but I don't think Eternity will have that particular kind of overland map. They could auto-rest you when you travel from area to area, though.

Actually, now that I think of it, adding a "rest resource" like Tents to PE wouldn't be a bad idea. It would prevent people from playing it safe by constantly backtracking back to the rest areas in the dungeons.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Actually, now that I think of it, adding a "rest resource" like Tents to PE wouldn't be a bad idea. It would prevent people from playing it safe by constantly backtracking back to the rest areas in the dungeons.

Yeah, and make that resource infinite too, because, hey, who wants to carry stuff with him? And "people" wouldn't use them anyway if they're limited.

Christ, just let the "people" play however the fuck they want. All this Sawyeristic bullshit about the "only correct way to play" is simply streamlining, it reduces freedom and fun and it kills kittens.

 

[Infinitron]

Christ, just let the "people" play however the fuck they want.

...said the Bethesda fan about FO:NV.

 

[FeelTheRads]

...said the Bethesda fan about FO:NV.

Huh? Don't understand the analogy.

 

[Sensuki]

I thought there was a resting area on the P:E screenshot - the campfire.

 

[Lord Andre]

for any stamina damage you take, you also take 25% health damage

The way you worded this, it sounds like you would die in 4 hits. I think you meant to say that the stamina acts as a shield that soaks 80% of damage taken.

Anyway, limited resting points worked well in KotC. No stamina mechanic needed. The benefits of using limited rest mechanic are not a byproduct of a stamina model and not dependent on it e.g.: it's irrelevant in judging the merits of Sawyer's stamina model.