Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Zed]

4h 30m!
oh boy oh boy

 

[Sensuki]

The panel stream is up, people are just entering the room now

 

[Infinitron]

I have made a thread for Rezzed: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/rezzed-2013.84149/

 

[hiver]

oh gawd... not that avellone guy... again!
let me guess, he is going to be nice and everything will be relative and everyone just do what they have to do and you have to understand the other side of the coin and BLAH; BLAH; BLAH; BLAH!

- get angry man! ANGRY!

 

[Sensuki]

Defiance Bay, Big City #1

Vertical Slice wilderness area

Animat Factory

Cultist Dungeon

 

[J_C]

oh gawd... not that avellone guy... again!
let me guess, he is going to be nice and everything will be relative and everyone just do what they have to do and you have to understand the other side of the coin and BLAH; BLAH; BLAH; BLAH!

- get angry man! ANGRY!

Angry? Why, you are obviously trolling. -10/10

 

[Infinitron]

Sensuki Post the concept art and WIP UI shot from before the gameplay video too

 

[hiver]

But he did get angry! At leats a little bit.

You see? You see? Hah!

(all those hours in the gym had to come from somewhere man... its all boiling under that nice facade, im telling ya...)

 

[Sensuki]

 

[Zed]

Hopefully there will be a KS update with HQ images from the presentation.

 

[Sensuki]

Aha, I think I now see what they're gonna do with the UI. The Combat log and menu will be collapsible so that the UI mimimalist poofs get their minimalist UI.

I have to say that I do like that design better than the first UI but that portrait size makes me cry inside. Why the hell can't we have larger portraits like Baldur's Gate and World of Xeen. We certainly have the screen space for it.

 

[Sensuki]

 

[J_C]

Aha, I think I now see what they're gonna do with the UI. The Combat log and menu will be collapsible so that the UI mimimalist poofs get their minimalist UI.


I have to say that I do like that design better than the first UI but that portrait size makes me cry inside. Why the hell can't we have larger portraits like Baldur's Gate and World of Xeen. We certainly have the screen space for it.

I have a feeling that that's just a placeholder UI. The final one will be totally different.

 

[Gozma]

Me from before the Kickstarter thing would never believe I would get fucking bored watching Avellone present a brand new iso RPG in 2013

I blame powerpoint

 

[coffeetable]

Aha, I think I now see what they're gonna do with the UI. The Combat log and menu will be collapsible so that the UI mimimalist poofs get their minimalist UI.


I have to say that I do like that design better than the first UI but that portrait size makes me cry inside. Why the hell can't we have larger portraits like Baldur's Gate and World of Xeen. We certainly have the screen space for it.

I have a feeling that that's just a placeholder UI. The final one will be totally different.

Yeah, that's almost certainly placeholder. Buttons look like Unity default.

 

[Sensuki]

created a thread over at obsidian here as well, jumped straight in with the UI complaint, but proposed a solution too

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/63992-project-eternity-rezzed-screencaps-world-map-new-areas-uiv2/

The size of the UI and the placement of the elements leads me to believe it's ~ the functional size of UI v2 - it has all the logical corrections from v1, but it's just missing art. Obviously the buttons for skills aren't going to be that big.

 

[Infinitron]

Nice job getting all those images, Sensuki. Can you get the Wasteland 2 docs too?

 

[Sensuki]

Youtube keeps freezing on me at the moment. I'll try restarting or something.

 

[Branm]

Was interesting with Chris. Major publishers taking notice of the kickstarter successes isn't really surprising, obviously its going to CATCH attention when 70K people pitch in 4m on an idea...If anything good will come out of it I dunno...

I still think devs need a far larger budget then 4m to produce a cult game like BG2 these days so perhaps major publishers taking an interest is the best we could of hoped for...

 

[coffeetable]

Was interesting with Chris. Major publishers taking notice of the kickstarter successes isn't really surprising, obviously its going to CATCH attention when 70K people pitch in 4m on an idea...If anything good will come out of it I dunno...

I still think devs need a far larger budget then 4m to produce a cult game like BG2 these days so perhaps major publishers taking an interest is the best we could of hoped for...

Well that's an interesting question. If this article is to be believed, Baldur's Gate 1 took 90 staff-years. This screenshot from the DFA documentary suggests a staff-month in SF costs ~$12,700 all in (this is covering overheads as well as wages), so BG1 would've cost $14m in today's dollars. Of course that's for the engine as well as the game, and it was made back in 1998 when bug tracking was done on whiteboards in the hallway and Maya wasn't even a thing yet.

 

[tuluse]

Your price for a staff year sounds way to low like 1/4-1/10 of what an actual staff year would cost.

 

[coffeetable]

Your price for a staff year sounds way to low like 1/4-1/10 of what an actual staff year would costs.

Whoops, that was meant to be staff-month -_-

The equivalent staff-year would be $150k.

 

[tuluse]

That makes much more sense

 

[~RAGING BONER~]

does the staff have any enchantments?

 

[KithKanan]

Was interesting with Chris. Major publishers taking notice of the kickstarter successes isn't really surprising, obviously its going to CATCH attention when 70K people pitch in 4m on an idea...If anything good will come out of it I dunno...

I still think devs need a far larger budget then 4m to produce a cult game like BG2 these days so perhaps major publishers taking an interest is the best we could of hoped for...

Well that's an interesting question. If this article is to be believed, Baldur's Gate 1 took 90 staff-years. This screenshot from the DFA documentary suggests a staff-month in SF costs ~$12,700 all in (this is covering overheads as well as wages), so BG1 would've cost $14m in today's dollars. Of course that's for the engine as well as the game, and it was made back in 1998 when bug tracking was done on whiteboards in the hallway and Maya wasn't even a thing yet.

SF cost of living is about 25-30% higher than LA cost of living. Not sure how that affects overall Double Fine staff-month cost vs inXile or Obsidian staff-month cost though. Going by projected individual rates for the CA health benefit exchange, health insurance in SF is about 25% more expensive than in Orange County, too.