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Subject37 Zarniwoop fizzelopeguss

This is a little check-up on where you guys have been and if you're coming back.

We no longer have to do Starbase work. We have candy.
 

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Yep I'm here, things are finally easing up for me so I should have some time for STO again. I was planning on getting online later today. I'm sure all my ships and builds are hopelessly outdated and mostly useless now.

I saw some chatter on the STO forums that beams are now not totally crap?

EDIT: And I'd be down for some No Win runs if someone can help me get my ships up to spec. I still hadn't even bothered with figuring out warpcores when I went on hiatus so I'm out of the loop. Auras? WTF?
 
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we taking up guild space?
Actually more like Norfleet misses you guys. Don't tell him I implied he feels anything other than cold machine-like efficiency.

Yep I'm here, things are finally easing up for me so I should have some time for STO again. I was planning on getting online later today. I'm sure all my ships and builds are hopelessly outdated and mostly useless now.

I saw some chatter on the STO forums that beams are now not totally crap?

EDIT: And I'd be down for some No Win runs if someone can help me get my ships up to spec. I still hadn't even bothered with figuring out warpcores when I went on hiatus so I'm out of the loop. Auras? WTF?
The general gist in No Win Scenario is Fire At Will 3 and Attack Pattern Beta. Using Aux2Bat with three purple quality technicians (acquired from B'Tran Cluster fame assignments), everyone curls up around the Maru and just spams the discoball. One player is a Science Vessel, preferably something like a Vesta, who's there as the healer ship for the Maru, and to use Tractor Beam Repulsors with Evasive Maneuvers to push surviving enemy ships far away if time needs to be bought to heal the Maru and team to full capacity. Ideal ships for No Win team are ships like Regent and Avenger (Kumari also works when sporting Dual Beams).

Warp Cores and Singularity Cores are new items that provide hefty improvements to power levels if upgraded beyond standard issue. Higher quality Warp Cores are essentially about one thing: Elite Fleet Mk XII pieces. There's three things on a checklist for Cores when it comes to making the purchase (unless on a Carrier/Science Vessel):

1) Bonus power to Shields.
2) +3.3% to all damage per power level over 75 (most ships can easily get three levels this high, Engineers can keep almost constant 100+ in all systems), this is an important thing to have.
3) Power bonus from either Shields->Weapons or Weapons->Shields (Norfleet considers Shields->Weapons better, but in my experience the power drain from Weapon use does not affect the power bonus granted).

Whatever else is on the Core is usually just stuffing, being stuff like Slipstream bonuses or paltry skill points.

The auras are a new mechanic that buffed Cruisers. Basically, Cruisers run one out of a selection of passive buffs (obvious best ones are -25% to weapon power drain, and +10% bonus to shield hardness and healing; the +2 base turn rate is situationally good; the threat aura is useless). The team aspect is that these buffs don't stack, so every Cruiser runs a different aura if in a formation.

Norfleet can correct all the mistakes I've made, he's got the whole plan figured out for a long time now.
 

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There are new upcoming cores which will further reduce energy drain. Additionally, what you want most in a core in addition to the relevant X->Y affix is [EPS], because MOAR POWAAAH!. As the new cores are clearly superior, it is advised that you not waste your money on crap in the meantime, and just run with what you already have, or the freebie Obelix core.
 

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Ideal ships for No Win team are ships like Regent and Avenger (Kumari also works when sporting Dual Beams).

Is the Fleet Excelsior still a viable ship? The very existence of the Avenger offends me, battlecruisers are supposed to be a KDF/Rommie thing. And it looks like a Vesta/Sovereign bastard lovechild.

It's also nice to see that the vet ships are getting fleet versions.
 
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It does, but it still retains its old flaw of having one too many Engineer Ensign slot, since any of those past two = waste of space. Otherwise it's just fine, it can handle Aux2Bat cycle, pack Directed Energy Modulation 3 and carry Reverse Shield Polarity 2 just fine along with Fire At Will 3 and Attack Pattern Beta 2.
 

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Well I kind of lost interest when they went full WoWtard and required over 9000 hours of autism-fuelled grinding to get anything worthwhile with Season 6. Never even bothered with all the Romulanfaggotry and the new superfluous currencies they no doubt added. (Because as we know, the +-17 non-interchangable currencies they had before were totally not enough)

Meh, I might get back into the game again at some point, if my account's still active. But for now I'm spending the little game time I have on going through the Elder Scrolls series to see what this "decline" thing is all about. Also GTA V.
 

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Oh, come now. It's not 9000 hours of grinding. And Season 6 never had ANY of that. It was Season 7 that got that. It's like a month, tops, in which you put in a half-assed daily ISE and dump some crap in. It's not that awful. It's just that the costs of stuff are now obscene, since they increased them by about infinity%.

But the actual "grind" is manageable: I've done it on over 20 dudes while soloing a starbase.
 

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But your brain is wired directly into the internets and this game, plus you really might be an AI from the same people that built Wyrmlord.

Us hu-mons just can't.


Or maybe we could but WHY ohh God why
 

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They're making it easier anyway with next season, since characters that have completed a rep can send a "sponsor" token to your alts that double their XP gain in that rep.
 

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This really only benefits you and me, Vaarna. Nobody else seems to have as much alt-spam.
 

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Dammit, I had a grand plan of putting together a No Win Scenario build for my impulse-buy Bortasqu today, only to find the boff layout won't support the FAW3, APB, dual A2B skillset you've recommended. Fucking ship, is there anything it can do well, besides look cool?
 

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Actually, Bortasqu DOES support it. My KDF ships for No Win are Borts.

Which version do you use? Do the different types have different boff setups? I only have the Tactical version, which has slotting for LT Tac, COM Eng, LT Sci, LTCOM Uni, ENS Uni.

So with that loadout it's an either/or with a dual A2B or a FAW3/APB setup, depending on how I use the Lt Com Uni slot. You can't do both, or am I missing something?
 

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Tactical version is the best one, IIRC, since it has the most Tactical console slots (console slots are the only thing that changes between Borts).

The Bort can run Aux2Bat and has enough Tac boff slots (amoun can vary due to Universal slots) to handle the job just fine. It's about what things to prioritize. Norfleet probably has a good idea of the kind of Bort loadout that works best.
 

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The Bortasqu has to be run a more interesting way if you want to use it. Wife runs hers this way:

Uni as LtC Tac, Ens Sci:
LtC Tac: TT1, APB1, FAW3
Lt Tac: TT1, APB1
Cdr Engi: EPTW1, ATB1, EPTS3, DEM3
Ens Sci: PH1
Lt Sci: TSS1, HE2

Note that there is only one ATB. One pump every 20-ish seconds is enough to keep everything firing and ticking, everything else you had the space to double up on anyway.
 

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For the record everyone, we now need 924 Engineering boxes to have all the Engineering doffs for finishing Fed Engineering. That's the last thing to finish in both starbases.

So if anyone has 693,000 Fleet Credits you don't know what to do with (faction doesn't matter, there's a trick for unbinding the boxes), you can do the honours.
 

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Btw, new jewbox details are out.

The thing that interests me is that there's a new console that's exactly what I've been missing!
 

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Is it me is the Lock Box ship very meh and the Lobi Ship the only one with some interest?
 

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I don't give a damn! What matters to me is that Cryptic is finally giving me a Yamato Cannon Torpedo that can be used on any ship!
 

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I don't give a damn! What matters to me is that Cryptic is finally giving me a Yamato Cannon Torpedo that can be used on any ship!

On a tangential note, I've been watching Space Battleship Yamato 2199 lately and I'm liking it much more than I was thinking I would. I'm an old-school Yamato fan so I was prepared to immediately hate any remake.
 

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The first two tiers have a great bonus: +10% critical severity. Get that shit.
 

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