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Open-minded people: Are Symphony of the Night and Terranigma "RPGs"?
- Thread starter Sigourn
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Terranigma yes
Castlevania no
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Castlevania no
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newtmonkey
Arcane
Neither are RPGs unless we are walking in "in Mario you play the role of Mario so it's an RPG" territory.
I'd actually classify them as straight "action" games as there is barely anything in either of them that is anything RPGlike, and this is coming from someone that categories the Diablo clones and Dark Souls games as "action RPG" in my Steam account.
If the game is gonna be linear and based on the player's reflexes, the only thing separating it from, say Devil May Cry 3, would be character builds of varying power (i.e. a way for less skilled players to make up for their lack of reflexes by developing a character that somehow makes the game easier for them). How is that different from just setting a difficulty level or whatever? Well, I compare it to playing something like a Gold Box game and using metaknowledge (or just knowledge of D&D rules) to create an optimal party versus just "rolling with it."
I'd actually classify them as straight "action" games as there is barely anything in either of them that is anything RPGlike, and this is coming from someone that categories the Diablo clones and Dark Souls games as "action RPG" in my Steam account.
If the game is gonna be linear and based on the player's reflexes, the only thing separating it from, say Devil May Cry 3, would be character builds of varying power (i.e. a way for less skilled players to make up for their lack of reflexes by developing a character that somehow makes the game easier for them). How is that different from just setting a difficulty level or whatever? Well, I compare it to playing something like a Gold Box game and using metaknowledge (or just knowledge of D&D rules) to create an optimal party versus just "rolling with it."
One of these has numbers, the other one doesn't.
In Terranigma the journey of the protagonist and it's effect on the world takes center stage. Also numbers on screen during combat. RPG.
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Goi~Yaas~Dinn
Savant
Today, I learned Age of Empires was an ARPG.
Chaotic_Heretic
Arcane
an RPG must emphasize character skill > Player skill.
SOTN, while fun, isn't it. neither is Terranigma. Not sure about Secret of Mana (don't remember much about it all).
SOTN, while fun, isn't it. neither is Terranigma. Not sure about Secret of Mana (don't remember much about it all).
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Eh, that's a dumb criteria. That would mean most roguelike aren't rpgs because they require player skill.
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Not sure how serious you were, but that is basically how I see the dividing line between still somehow RPGs and not RPGs. So while neither SotN nor Terranigma are core RPGs, I still count them as part of the genre, while Zelda isn't
Agreed, except SotN has it's very own genre to hang on to. Metroidvania covers it very nicely, you could consider it an RPG sure, but why bother? If someone asks you what sort of game it is you answer "metroidvania" and that should be the end of it no?
Technically true for both games, a monkey could finish them with a completely grinded out character.
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