Melcar
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Sorcerers are better. The only thing is that you have to have prior knowledge of the spells available and be careful what you choose.
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Paladins in Baldurs Gate
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Murk
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Mage's get 5 slots per level up to level 5, 4 slots for level 6, 3 for levels 7 and 8, and 2 for level 9 at character level 20.
That means Edwin gets 7 slots per level not counting any bonuses from other items or HLAs he gets... and if you're using Throne of Bhaal then... well, even more.
That means Edwin gets 7 slots per level not counting any bonuses from other items or HLAs he gets... and if you're using Throne of Bhaal then... well, even more.
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Edwin is just fantastic, no doubt about it. And you can have Edwina, too!
And yes, of course, Sorcerers are the best casters in ToB and BG2 if you pick the right spells. Blah. Since when is a game like this about picking the "right" stuff? Make sub-optimal choices and work around them. Solo the game with a Blade, or make your main character a Jester and run around with Jan Jansen and that werewolf.
And yes, of course, Sorcerers are the best casters in ToB and BG2 if you pick the right spells. Blah. Since when is a game like this about picking the "right" stuff? Make sub-optimal choices and work around them. Solo the game with a Blade, or make your main character a Jester and run around with Jan Jansen and that werewolf.
Andhaira
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Edwin is superior to sorcerors due to his flexibility.. Facing enemy mages? Memorize breach. Facing mind flayers? Memorize mental protection. Facing melee? Memorize stoneskin.
Anyhow I have a question: What ar ethe golden pantloons in BG1 used for? I recall they are for something in BG2 but I can't remember what that is.
Anyhow I have a question: What ar ethe golden pantloons in BG1 used for? I recall they are for something in BG2 but I can't remember what that is.
Ammar
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AndhairaX said:
So what? Any Sorceror worth his salt has taken those spells anyway. But as said a Wild Mage is better than Edwin anyway.
The pantaloons are used in ToB where you can exchange the golden, silver and bronze pantaloons for a certain item.
Azael
Magister
They're not used until in Throne of Bhaal where you get a third garment which can be combined into a power armor of sorts, IIRC.
AndhairaX said:
Breach and Skonestin - which sorcerer wouldn't have these spells?
But I'm genuinely interested what *mental protection* spell helps vs. Mindflayers. Care to tell me?
Golden/silver/bronze pantaloon can be assembled to Big Metal Unit in ToB.
Azrael the cat
Arcane
VentilatorOfDoom said:
Cleric spell 'chaotic commands' prevents their stun and I think it also prevents their brain-devouring insta-kill. Not sure whether there is a mage spell to do the same.
Shannow
Waster of Time
Doesn't help against brain-sucking. And I also don't remember any mage spell in that vein.Azrael the cat said:
Are you very upset about BG2 and it's players Jasede?
Sure but we can hardly call that *mental protection*.
Murk
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I think Andhaira was meaning the psychological defense mechanism. That is, you project all of your angst and self-frustration at the Mind Flayers causing their very acute and sensitive mental powers to backfire on them.
(prolly confused with priest spell?)
(prolly confused with priest spell?)
and why?
Mindflayers a way more annoying, Andhaira only requires a simple concentration check.
Andhaira
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By mental protection I mean spells like mirror image, invisibility, etc that cause the Illthid mental attacks to NOT target you, and as such you are not affected. Thus, these spells may be classified as mental protection.
A sorceror has limited selection, theres a good chance they may not take invisibility, mirror image, blur, etc. But a mage can have all of them, even a specialist mage can have most or all of them and use them when needed.
A sorceror has limited selection, theres a good chance they may not take invisibility, mirror image, blur, etc. But a mage can have all of them, even a specialist mage can have most or all of them and use them when needed.
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Cool. Well i just took on the illithid stronghold in the sewers with a thief dualled to mage at level 21 solo (stolen from ToB, tee hee).
Easy enough strategy for me - summoned Modernkainen's magic sword and a skeleton warrior for the first room, let them stall the enemy while I blasted them with Melf's Minute Meteors.
for the room with the mindflayer commander Alhoon - I summoned a Planetar and a skeleton warrior, had the planetar cast globe of blades, and watched the mindflayer's fall like flies to the planetar while I gave mild backup with som emore MMMeteors.
Easy enough, so far the biggest threat I have is 1) anything that can cast Maze and 2) Beholders
I took out the liches guarding Kangaxx's bones but Kangaxx's ridiculous "maze at will" ability is really ruining it for me - I think I may have to go recruit Minsc to deal with him.
Easy enough strategy for me - summoned Modernkainen's magic sword and a skeleton warrior for the first room, let them stall the enemy while I blasted them with Melf's Minute Meteors.
for the room with the mindflayer commander Alhoon - I summoned a Planetar and a skeleton warrior, had the planetar cast globe of blades, and watched the mindflayer's fall like flies to the planetar while I gave mild backup with som emore MMMeteors.
Easy enough, so far the biggest threat I have is 1) anything that can cast Maze and 2) Beholders
I took out the liches guarding Kangaxx's bones but Kangaxx's ridiculous "maze at will" ability is really ruining it for me - I think I may have to go recruit Minsc to deal with him.
Mikayel said:
The fact that a sorc outperforms as wizard as a combat caster is also undeniable.
The starting point of the argument was Andhaira insisting Edwin is a better caster than a PC sorc.
AndhairaX said:
Well, this is very convincing, exactly like your explanation of mental protection. I guess you're right then.
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