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Anime Palworld - basically pro slavery Pokemon game - now available on Early Access

lukaszek

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yeah, went first with 400, failed as it wasnt enough, came back with 1k, spent 900.
And it was 2nd upgrade assault riffle after boosting my dmg output in game settings(some multiplier, so I can deal comparable dmg to pokemon).
End game boss is ridiculous hp sponge and you need to drop him within 10min window
 

Caim

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Big Boss should really stop bringing animals to Mother Base, now you got shit like this going on.
 

karoliner

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what the fuck man...
https://www.gematsu.com/2024/07/son...pair-jointly-establish-palworld-entertainment

Sony Music Entertainment Japan, Aniplex, and Pocketpair jointly establish Palworld Entertainment​

Sal Romano

Jul 9 2024 / 9:54 PM EDT

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Sony Music Entertainment Japan, subsidiary Aniplex, and Palworld developer Pocketpair have announced the establishment of Palworld Entertainment, a joint venture that will be responsible for developing the reach of the intellectual property and for expanding commercial business endeavors, including the global licensing and merchandising activities associated with Palworld, outside of the game.
Get the details below.
Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc. (Headquarters: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, President and CEO: Shunsuke Muramatsu, hereinafter referred to as SMEJ) and its group subsidiary Aniplex Inc. (Headquarters: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, President: Atsuhiro Iwakami, hereinafter referred to as Aniplex) and Pocketpair, Inc. (Headquarters: Shinagawa-ku, Tokyo, President: Takuro Mizobe, hereinafter referred to as Pocketpair) have established a joint venture, Palworld Entertainment Inc., to expand and develop new businesses associated with the hit game, Palworld. The announcement was made today in a joint release by all three companies.
Palworld, a multiplayer open world survival game created, produced and published by Japanese developer, Pocketpair, became the breakout hit of 2024 when the total number of players surpassed 25 million after only one month in release.
The Palworld game, currently available on PC, Xbox Series X/S, Xbox One, and through Xbox Game Pass, seamlessly integrates elements of battle, monster-capturing, training, and base building. Players are able to wield a range of weapons, from classic bows and spears to modern assault rifles and rocket launchers. The gameplay involves locating and capturing Pals, who in addition to assisting players in the construction and expansion of their base operations, can become powerful allies in combat.
The joint venture will be responsible for developing the reach of the intellectual property and for expanding commercial business endeavors, including the global licensing and merchandising activities associated with Palworld, outside of the interactive game.

Joint venture efforts will begin with the development of exclusive merchandise based on the game—which will debut and sell at the Pocketpair booth during Bilibili World 2024 (beginning Friday, July 12, 2024 in Shanghai, China) and be made available for pre-order at Aniplex and its subsidiaries, Aniplex of America and Aniplex Shanghai, e-commerce sites with more detailed information at a later date.
 

Hell Swarm

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Any one played the new area yet? I'm curious but I'm not sure what it adds to the gameplay.
 
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I wonder what they’re even specifically suing over? It says they’re suing over patent infringement, but I’ve no idea what that’d even be. It’s probably just some bullshit where Nintendo is going to try to fuck them by throwing money around. But I’m guessing the suit is such a nothing thing that it just ends up fucking Nintendo and The Pokémon Company.
 

Saark

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Might just be an attempt to file the injunction so steam takes Palworld off the steam store until the matter is resolved, and with motion filings and the delay in courts taking a look at stuff, that would lead to months of no Palworld on Steam. Very reminiscent of the situation with Nexon vs the Dark and Darker devs, that showcased how damaging a frivolous lawsuit can be in the gaming sphere if Steam ends up taking the safe stance and takes stuff off the store until legal matters are done.
 

Hell Swarm

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I wonder what they’re even specifically suing over? It says they’re suing over patent infringement, but I’ve no idea what that’d even be. It’s probably just some bullshit where Nintendo is going to try to fuck them by throwing money around. But I’m guessing the suit is such a nothing thing that it just ends up fucking Nintendo and The Pokémon Company.
This is my thoughts too. You can't patent game mechanics so WTF can they possibly be suing over? They could have sued over knock off designs like Furret but that's not what they did. I'm thinking this is lawfare because Pal world pissed all over Pokemon's face with a quality game Game freak have been refusing to make for decades. And now Nintendo thinks they can bully an indie dev into submission and try to keep it's stranglehold on monster raising games. If they talk too much shit I can see Bandai getting involved because they won't want Nintendo threatening their monster franchises.
 

Habichtswalder

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I don't like Palworld at all but I still hope they'll win the lawsuit. There are dozens of games that are more similar than Palworld or Pokémon. Actually the gameplay is completely different so I was thinking it might be about designs of monsters. But I don't think designs are covered by patents. However, Nintendos behavior is embarrassing and unpleasant.
 

Myobi

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I was thinking it might be about designs of monsters. But I don't think designs are covered by patents. However, Nintendos behavior is embarrassing and unpleasant.
It would be a trademark infringement in that case I believe, by best guess is that this is about Pokeballs mechanics.
 

Necrensha

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>You can't patent gameplay mechanics
Uhh, there was that one interview of Miyamoto saying that he wanted to patent jumping after seeing other platformers come out, and when they patented the whole insanity mechanics of Eternal Darkness, and that whole Nemesis system patent by Warner, and Bioware patenting the dialogue wheel, and Namco patenting mini-games during loading screens up until 2015, and many more...
 

Mauman

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>You can't patent gameplay mechanics
Uhh, there was that one interview of Miyamoto saying that he wanted to patent jumping after seeing other platformers come out, and when they patented the whole insanity mechanics of Eternal Darkness, and that whole Nemesis system patent by Warner, and Bioware patenting the dialogue wheel, and Namco patenting mini-games during loading screens up until 2015, and many more...
Can't speak about foreign courts, but in the US game mechanics are not copyrightable. If one does get through it's not enforceable. Or at least that's how it's SUPPOSED to be, corruption of the courts notwithstanding. All of those examples are corrupt greedy bastards just trying to be corrupt greedy bastards.

Section 102(b) of the Copyright Act states: “In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work.”1 In using the word “or,” the statute lists these exclusions—ideas, procedures, processes, systems, methods of operation, concepts, principles, or discoveries—disjunctively. Thus, each has independent force and effect. This means that neither ideas nor functional elements—such as procedures, processes, systems, or methods of operation—are copyrightable.
So catching a creature in a ball can't be copyrighted (or at least isn't supposed to be). Now if the ball had the exact same design as a pokeball then THAT could be cause for a lawsuit, but that's not the case here.

Frankly, this reeks of corporate lawfare.
 
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Just Locus

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This is my thoughts too. You can't patent game mechanics so WTF can they possibly be suing over?
You aren't allowed to make a game where you catch and collect creatures to form a team that then battles other creatures according to Nintendo (please ignore all the other games that do this that they didn't go after) - Digimon hasn't been culturally relevant in recent years, and Palworld has gotten big enough that there is the potential for it to snowball into something that actually competes with Pokemon, we all know how lazy those games have gotten, There are enough Pokemon fans who aren't Nintendrones that will happily pick up Palworld if those games end up continuing to succeed.
 
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Might just be an attempt to file the injunction so steam takes Palworld off the steam store until the matter is resolved, and with motion filings and the delay in courts taking a look at stuff, that would lead to months of no Palworld on Steam. Very reminiscent of the situation with Nexon vs the Dark and Darker devs, that showcased how damaging a frivolous lawsuit can be in the gaming sphere if Steam ends up taking the safe stance and takes stuff off the store until legal matters are done.

The timing is all wrong if the idea was to stop Steam sales. The time to do that would’ve been back in January or February, not as we reach the end of the year and sales on Steam have mostly stopped.
 

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I wonder what they’re even specifically suing over? It says they’re suing over patent infringement, but I’ve no idea what that’d even be. It’s probably just some bullshit where Nintendo is going to try to fuck them by throwing money around. But I’m guessing the suit is such a nothing thing that it just ends up fucking Nintendo and The Pokémon Company.
This is my thoughts too. You can't patent game mechanics so WTF can they possibly be suing over? They could have sued over knock off designs like Furret but that's not what they did. I'm thinking this is lawfare because Pal world pissed all over Pokemon's face with a quality game Game freak have been refusing to make for decades. And now Nintendo thinks they can bully an indie dev into submission and try to keep it's stranglehold on monster raising games. If they talk too much shit I can see Bandai getting involved because they won't want Nintendo threatening their monster franchises.
Game mechanics can absolutely be patented. The problem is they have to be specifically applied for, approved by government, can't have been done before by anyone (even patent seeker. Exact varies by country but wide commercial release years ago wouldn't be valid in any). Nintendo's recent mechanic patents are just linking very basic mechanics in unnovel ways ("hit target with basic collision" and "ride animal in video game") with over explained technobabble. That the company being sued doesn't even know what they're being sued for is a huge sign of fuckery.

>You can't patent gameplay mechanics
Uhh, there was that one interview of Miyamoto saying that he wanted to patent jumping after seeing other platformers come out, and when they patented the whole insanity mechanics of Eternal Darkness, and that whole Nemesis system patent by Warner, and Bioware patenting the dialogue wheel, and Namco patenting mini-games during loading screens up until 2015, and many more...
Can't speak about foreign courts, but in the US game mechanics are not copyrightable. If one does get through it's not enforceable. Or at least that's how it's SUPPOSED to be, corruption of the courts notwithstanding. All of those examples are corrupt greedy bastards just trying to be corrupt greedy bastards.

Section 102(b) of the Copyright Act states: “In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work.”1 In using the word “or,” the statute lists these exclusions—ideas, procedures, processes, systems, methods of operation, concepts, principles, or discoveries—disjunctively. Thus, each has independent force and effect. This means that neither ideas nor functional elements—such as procedures, processes, systems, or methods of operation—are copyrightable.
So catching a creature in a ball can't be copyrighted (or at least isn't supposed to be). Now if the ball had the exact same design as a pokeball then THAT could be cause for a lawsuit, but that's not the case here.

Frankly, this reeks of corporate lawfare.
Why don't you read what you posted? Copyright, trademark, and patent are different areas of law. The three are related, but law is very careful to make sure they don't overlap because they're related. Copyright doesn't protect function, and getting a patent on something disqualifies it from copyright and trademark protection: There's a major case in US history that established the pillow shape of shredded wheat was practical (it makes it float in milk) and therefore couldn't be protected as a trademark.
 

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