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Anime Palworld - basically pro slavery Pokemon game - now available on Early Access

tommy heavenly6

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Atlus should sue Nintendo for copying the monster capture mechanic from Megaten games
 

Hell Swarm

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Digimon hasn't been culturally relevant in recent years,
Digimon was the 5th best selling card game in the world in the last few years. It's had multiple movies and TV series. Digimon has been dropping the ball on games but in terms of other media Digimon is very relevant. It's hit the peak nostalgia point for guys growing up watching it and wanting to share with their kids or play the TCG with cool monsters.
 

Lucumo

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Digimon hasn't been culturally relevant in recent years,
Digimon was the 5th best selling card game in the world in the last few years. It's had multiple movies and TV series. Digimon has been dropping the ball on games but in terms of other media Digimon is very relevant. It's hit the peak nostalgia point for guys growing up watching it and wanting to share with their kids or play the TCG with cool monsters.
Do you have a list of them with revenue? I only know the Japanese stuff where Pokemon is #1 by a very, very, very wide margin. Then Yugioh (still in their own category), Duel Masters, One Piece (heavily surging though), Weiß Schwarz with some distance and everything #6 (MTG) and lower is negligible, including Digimon (though, it's much more popular worldwide than in Japan, especially Asia).

Is the 4th place TCG (let alone 5th) even remotely comparable to the big 3?
What are those? Pokemon, Yugioh and MTG?
 

Damned Registrations

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Does Japan have it's own patent laws? Since both companies are based there US patent law might not be relevant here.

Regardless, Nintendo are fucking bastards and I hope they lose, but they're filthy rich and entrenched so they probably won't.
 

Mauman

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Does Japan have it's own patent laws? Since both companies are based there US patent law might not be relevant here.

Regardless, Nintendo are fucking bastards and I hope they lose, but they're filthy rich and entrenched so they probably won't.
Palworld devs evidently have some sort of backing from Sony (I don't know the details).

Who knows? Maybe Sony can actually be the hero for once and tell Nintendo to fuck off. That might be too hopeful.
 

Black

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I love tendie patents, we owe so much to them, like laws of physics.
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Hell Swarm

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Is the 4th place TCG (let alone 5th) even remotely comparable to the big 3?
No, it doesn't compare to the big 3, which have all been around for 20 years at this point. But it's still a damn impressive feat and even more so when Bandai mismanaged the game in every possible way and launched it during covid.
 

flyingjohn

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Nintendo wins and goes bankrupt because copyright trolls abuse jap laws after this case.Could actually happen.
 

Baron Dupek

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A Nintendo lawyer is never late, Yamaguchi, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to!
told ya
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/su...e-sued-half-the-gaming-industry-back-in-2017/
Analyst Serkan Toto explained how Nintendo sued Japanese mobile gaming powerhouse Colopl in 2017 over similar patent infringements, and eventually won ¥3 billion (around $21 million), plus licensing fees that are still being paid to this day. "It took them four years and in the end it was basically a settlement, but Nintendo won, and they sued them on the ground of six patents," Toto says.

Nintendo this week announced that it had filed a lawsuit against Palworld over the creature-collectathon's patent infringement, not copyright infringement, meaning it might have "given up" on arguing that Pals looked too much like Pokemons. While the details of the suit aren't yet public, the focus on patents probably indicates that certain Palworld game mechanics are - as the Big N's legal team will argue - under Nintendo's ownership, for better or for worse.

"They have a patent on when you have an isometric view, and then a character is covered by a tree, for example, the character can still be seen as a shadow," Toto says. "This is in like every single isometric game. They had the desire back in 2017 to spit in Colopl's bowl, and came up with these patents." Nintendo's sweeping list of patents means it likely "could have sued half of the gaming industry back in 2017," according to Toto.

"They have thousands and thousands of patents on other things," Toto continues. "And they can decide when they want to initiate a lawsuit, and when they don't want to initiate a lawsuit."

Palworld has become a monster success and shifted tens of millions of sales in the months since its launch, so why did Nintendo choose this particular moment to declare legal action? Toto reckons that "Nintendo felt threatened" as Palworld has began expanding into multiplatform releases, anime, and merchandising of the Pals - areas where The Pokemon Company traditionally makes its billions.

this is why we can't have new Fallouts in old style again
They have a patent on when you have an isometric view, and then a character is covered by a tree, for example, the character can still be seen as a shadow,

Hasn't Japan done game patent lawsuits before is this supposed to be surprising and unexpected
No, it's supposed to be annoying. Like hearing that Bill Gates bought your entire goddamn city.
his company did bought the nuclear power plant tho
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/20/energy/three-mile-island-microsoft-ai
Three Mile Island, the site of worst nuclear disaster in the United States, is reopening and will exclusively sell the power to Microsoft as the company searches for energy sources to fuel its AI ambitions.

Constellation Energy announced Friday that its Unit 1 reactor, which closed five years ago, is expected to be revived in 2028, dependent on Nuclear Regulatory Commission approval. Microsoft will purchase the carbon-free energy produced from it to power its data centers to support artificial intelligence.

Financial terms of the 20-year agreement, which Constellation called its largest ever, weren’t disclosed.
 

Myobi

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Nintendo invented deer, jumping, isometric view, player character looking at things, throwing ball-like objects, flying mounts...
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That's the best part, I don't think they even need to invent it to claim a patent over it ;D This is a law issue, and cunts like Nintendo abuse this shit to screw over other companies and even their own fan base...

They probably make more money out of lawfare than the video games they keep shitting out.
 

Nifft Batuff

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Can this lawsuit be the opportunity for a court to invalidate the patents for blatant trolling? Can the validity of these patents be scrutinized as well in the normal procedures of these lawsuits?
 

Necrensha

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Can this lawsuit be the opportunity for a court to invalidate the patents for blatant trolling? Can the validity of these patents be scrutinized as well in the normal procedures of these lawsuits?
That ain't happening. Japan is too stubborn and polite to change stupid laws, and Nintendo basically owns the country metaphorically.
 

Hell Swarm

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Can this lawsuit be the opportunity for a court to invalidate the patents for blatant trolling? Can the validity of these patents be scrutinized as well in the normal procedures of these lawsuits?
If gamers weren't a bunch of fags they would use this as a rallying crying in the West at least and put pressure on law makers to make all these kinds of patents illegal. There's plenty of patents fucking over the industry and indie devs are skating on thin ice and risk any success being life ruining.
 

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