Incline Path of Exile 2 - now available on Early Access

[Cohesion]

By the way, fuck all people trying to make me buy items in the market. That´s lazy game design. Just make a non random, well designed crafted system.

I don´t like trading, I like to be rewarded with good items killing bosses or be able to craft good ones with what I find in the dungeons. It´s also cumbersome to buy from other players.

I am afraid we won't see anything similar to Last Epoch's Circle of Fortune system.

 

[Kane]

Do we already have an ETA for when they will put fun into the game?

Play as the monk, don't try to gain loot or power, don't pursue the fleeting pleasure of fun, instead observe, be mindful of the present moment, then you will attain inner peace.

I am already playing monk. It's infuriating how bad the game is at moment-to-moment game play. I understand I have to do away with the notion of fun and join the legion of twitch streamer goblins to enjoy this game (aka make money off of it).

 

[mediocrepoet]

Do we already have an ETA for when they will put fun into the game?

Play as the monk, don't try to gain loot or power, don't pursue the fleeting pleasure of fun, instead observe, be mindful of the present moment, then you will attain inner peace.

I am already playing monk. It's infuriating how bad the game is at moment-to-moment game play. I understand I have to do away with the notion of fun and join the legion of twitch streamer goblins to enjoy this game (aka make money off of it).

Or you could like... play something you find fun. Crazy idea, I know.

 

[Kane]

Do we already have an ETA for when they will put fun into the game?

Play as the monk, don't try to gain loot or power, don't pursue the fleeting pleasure of fun, instead observe, be mindful of the present moment, then you will attain inner peace.

I am already playing monk. It's infuriating how bad the game is at moment-to-moment game play. I understand I have to do away with the notion of fun and join the legion of twitch streamer goblins to enjoy this game (aka make money off of it).

Or you could like... play something you find fun. Crazy idea, I know.

That's why I play D4.

 

[ArchAngel]

Do we already have an ETA for when they will put fun into the game?

Play as the monk, don't try to gain loot or power, don't pursue the fleeting pleasure of fun, instead observe, be mindful of the present moment, then you will attain inner peace.

I am already playing monk. It's infuriating how bad the game is at moment-to-moment game play. I understand I have to do away with the notion of fun and join the legion of twitch streamer goblins to enjoy this game (aka make money off of it).

You must be low level then, monk with cold or lightning skills is one of the fastest characters.

 

[abija]

how do melees handle firing squads?

Keep moving until first salvo goes, close in and clear them.

 

[ArchAngel]

OK, I've done my like 5th refund of the tree and complete change :D

Now I am BoneStorm/Detonate Dead Infernalist. Focused even more into ES/EV and now got 60% dodge and almost 3000 ES.
DD is pretty much OP for clearing. I just need to kill one mob with BoneStorm and one cast of DD (technically two as I got it linked with Spell Echo) does the rest.
BoneStorm will be used for bossing once I get used to it (didn't get to try it yet vs a bigger boss that is not super fast).
BoneStorm on the other hand is useless for clearing, even if you gather Power Charges it is not really good for that, more like useful. Maybe with Pierce but that would nerf its damage too much, I am already using Scattershot because it spawns its Bones to throw 3x faster as it spawns 3 bones per channel instead of 1.
it is not easy to get your critical chance as high as in PoE1. In best case I can get it to around 90% but that requires debuff first and that I didn't crit for 4s . And that is with high base crit chance spell like BoneStorm (15% base)

Overall this is now a different play style than Essence Drain, I need to stand in place more while channeling bonestorm but I can clear faster due to how strong is DD. Also constant need to cast chaos sigil that gives me power charges from corpses. I wish there was a way to make it more automated. I tried another way with Buff that gives you frenzy when you pin enemies and I linked Pin with DD but that gave me even less control and it only gives 1 charge every 3s or so (there is passive that turns frenzy into power charges)

 

[Matador]

 

[abija]

Was trying wasd and.... the absolutely retarded target lock/auto aim that you can't disable when playing standard m&k doesn't seem to be present. /golfclap

 

[ArchAngel]

Was trying wasd and.... the absolutely retarded auto aim that you can't disable when playing standard m&k doesn't seem to be present. /golfclap

But smart targeting completely lacks for controllers. It is often frustrating playing projectile builds that require any more targeting than general direction of the enemy as nothing hits each other. Contagion and Essence drain target random targets instead of each other. Trying to cast Offering skills on your minions is a whole minigame in itself and now BoneStorm shoots at your feet if no enemy was highlighted when you released the button.. I can imagine Frostball and Ice Nova also work "well" together.. on the other hand if try to do zero targeting it always autotargets closest enemy, even if that is a stupid slow zombie while a rare you really want to attack is few ingame meters away. So I got a 20 bones ready to release but it all hits that one zombie :D

 

[Yaar Podshipnik]

I honestly can't imagine playing this game without wasd movement. Being able to precisely and quickly dodge in a different direction than you're targeting is such a great defence layer.

 

[abija]

But smart targeting completely lacks for controllers.

I can understand controller and wasd needing more work since they are way more complicated to implement (I also don't really give a shit). But why the actual fuck would they mess with the standard input method and make your char attack somewhere else than your cursor is...

Also... can't bind mousewheel... complicated tech I guess...

 

[ArchAngel]

This one is much better:

 

[Israfael]

But why the actual fuck would they mess with the standard input method and make your char attack somewhere else than your cursor is...

Yeah, extra fun with leap slam in Sanctum, as I wrote a week or two ago, just makes your movement unpredictable. Some sort of input delay or something which is very inconsistent

 

[Kane]

I honestly can't imagine playing this game without wasd movement. Being able to precisely and quickly dodge in a different direction than you're targeting is such a great defence layer.

At least in theory. In practice latency + bad netcode turn this into a worthless exercise outside of goblinoid streamers who are directly hooked into google's data center. And because this is an always online live service game you just have to deal with it.

It is a very good example of how GGG is tripping over their own pretentious 'hardcore ARPG' claim yet again.

 

[ArchAngel]

Ok after switch and buying shit, having maxed ele resists and good evasion and ES I tried trial of sekhema again to try to get my 5th and 6th ascendancy point and I finally made it to floor 3 boss but could not bring him down to less than 50% health. Do not see if I ever will as this character is getting boring and I will need to up its power by 50% to make this possible which will probably requier 6l.. these trials are super overtuned. On floor lvl 3 I could not even kill white enemies with one fully charged Bonestorm while I am now more or less cruising through tier 8 and 9 maps..
Sure I got both minor affliction that reduces my damage and increases their life but it is not I can control what I get, other options were worse.. I am also joining the crowd that is now missing Lab from PoE1, even the harder ones before the nerfs.

It is also possible I used up all my luck for today before that when I had 2 divine drops in 3 maps.

 

[TedNugent]

decided to give monk a spin. Im experienced with ssf 2nd character power boost, but freezing and stunning bosses is new to me.

how do melees handle firing squads?

Shield charge/leap on warrior

 

[lukaszek]

leap on warrior

so far i hate leap. Gets stopped by terrain pixels, also easy to get stunned/frozen while mid air. Its an issue when I go ES heavy without nodes to deal with frost/stun. You soak all that dmg too.

anyway I decided to shelve it a bit and respec my infernalist. I am now RS+corpse explosion minion build like ggg willed. Gear is worse, I lost my CI and freeze immunities, however i do deal noticeably more dmg.

 

[TedNugent]

leap on warrior

so far i hate leap. Gets stopped by terrain pixels, also easy to get stunned/frozen while mid air. Its an issue when I go ES heavy without nodes to deal with frost/stun. You soak all that dmg too.

anyway I decided to shelve it a bit and respec my infernalist. I am now RS+corpse explosion minion build like ggg willed. Gear is worse, I lost my CI and freeze immunities, however i do deal noticeably more dmg.

Its huge for mobility though.

Gives you the ability to leap over certain terrain objects, get out of aoe or trash pack mobs.

The one thing I hate about it is that it consumes armor break for some trash stun bonus I don't care about.

I usually only get blown up when I get too aggressive and jump right in the middle of a big trash pack. If I use it intelligently for positioning or just dealing stun buildup its fine.

Mostly, I don't want to get rid of it because its great for map traversal and worth the bind for that alone. Plus, it reminds me of OG barbarian leap. Its actually one of maybe three warrior skills I actually like.

 

[ArchAngel]

Somehow the gem socket system is worse than in poe1 in endgame. There when I got some chaos (early white maps) I could buy a decent 6l corrupted chest for 20c but here a greater jeweler orb is 53 ex, 6l one is over 200. So now I am a lvl 77 4l warrior coming close to red tier maps..

 

[mediocrepoet]

Somehow the gem socket system is worse than in poe1 in endgame. There when I got some chaos (early white maps) I could buy a decent 6l corrupted chest for 20c but here a greater jeweler orb is 53 ex, 6l one is over 200. So now I am a lvl 77 4l warrior coming close to red tier maps..

Isn't some of this related to the number of players and length of time the game's been out? Supply/demand... game trading economies still act like real economies.

 

[ArchAngel]

Somehow the gem socket system is worse than in poe1 in endgame. There when I got some chaos (early white maps) I could buy a decent 6l corrupted chest for 20c but here a greater jeweler orb is 53 ex, 6l one is over 200. So now I am a lvl 77 4l warrior coming close to red tier maps..

Isn't some of this related to the number of players and length of time the game's been out? Supply/demand... game trading economies still act like real economies.

It has more players than poe1 league but prices are high. Also these items do not drop enough while ex are dropping like crazy for builds that easy clear so they can wear all rarity gear. Economy is fucked. Last week greater jew orbs were 18ex

 

[TedNugent]

Well, I finally figured out the problem with my NVIDIA GPU not booting on Nobara, apparently (as I suspected), the latest NVIDIA drivers do not support 10 series cards any more, so I had to dump both the proprietary new driver and the open source NVIDIA drivers and install it via command line from the NVIDIA driver page.

Then Steam refused to start because it detected some mismatch in the driver in the kernel and the user driver. Finally got it to boot and now I need this monstrosity of a game to reinstall since during the process, I uninstalled Steam.

Notably, it seems that the game will now launch on Fedora without an actual Proton compatibility layer selected on base Vulkan renderer, basically the same as a native Linux game. Normally it doesn't even let you install or launch a Windows only game without Proton enabled.

But with the open source drivers it just hung up on the loading screen. I shall see if it boots with the correct drivers and actually runs properly, now. It was working just fine until I did a kernel update. I really need to ditch NVIDIA, their proprietary drivers are probably the only annoying thing I've had to deal with since switching.

POE2 is now rated as "platinum" on ProtonDB (from Gold). It would be actually kind of exciting if it works out of the box without Proton.

Ah, with the good drivers it now appears to be running normally in Vulkan, and relatively smoothly. Peachy.

 

[ArchAngel]

Why would you use linux for gaming?

 

[TedNugent]

Why would you use linux for gaming?

The game runs. Why would I not? PoE also runs very well on Linux AFAIK. I've been playing PoE2 on Fedora since a couple days after launch of Early Access despite not officially supporting it.

You realize the Steam Deck uses Arch Linux? Hence why I mention it, some people might be curious to know whether it works on the Deck, also many people here are experimenting with Linux gaming compatibility as well or using it as a primary daily driver. I still have Win10 installed on my secondary drive, haven't found a reason to use it yet, and I prefer not to use games with Denuvo or kernel level Easy Anti-Cheat/rootkits for the time being, until I care to find a workaround. For example, Total Warhammer 3 is on sale, and works very well on Linux, but I have some misgivings about Denuvo DRM, so I am not sure if I will mess with it. It's probably not worth installing Denuvo just to play a game, but I may break that rule if I care to.

Windows 10 commercial and business regular release channel is also set to be deprecated for security patches this time next year, so now is as good a time as any, especially for those with hardware without a chipset/TPM 2.0 that supports Windows 11.

I rarely encounter a problem for the stuff I actually want to play, particularly when using Steam/Proton.