Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

[John Keel]

Nah, you're missing Sacred + Displacement/Invis Circumstance at minimum. Can probably get in the 90s if you really work at it.

A Parry build to eat Nat 20s should be viable.

Displacement doesn't add any AC? Neither does Invisibility?

What are you using to get a Sacred bonus to AC?

Inquisitor can share its judgement sacred AC +5 I think at max lvl

 

[Desiderius]

Nah, you're missing Sacred + Displacement/Invis Circumstance at minimum. Can probably get in the 90s if you really work at it.

A Parry build to eat Nat 20s should be viable.

Displacement doesn't add any AC? Neither does Invisibility?

What are you using to get a Sacred bonus to AC?

AB, not AC.

Yeah, shared Judgement is probably best Sacred bonus, but there are a lot of ways. Tristian can give +10 with max Touch of Good.

This has Hap beat on Sacred and Luck:

Here's concealment bonus for Invis/Displacement:



Note: this is one of the reasons Womb feels unusually difficult first time you play it if you don't have Blindfight/Echolocation up to prevent it.

 

[Desiderius]

which style allows you to take Shatter Defenses without the pre-reqs??

Menacing.

 

[Desiderius]

Display is kinda meh in Turn based mode :/

I never use Display. Lingering Dirge -> Shaken -> Shatter.

What does Shatter have to with Studied Target?

 

[Yosharian]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

 

[Yosharian]

Don't you think Improved Precise Shot is super useful for lategame content on a character without natural access to Echolocation?

 

[Desiderius]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

It was a product of the change where they made multiple Freebooters stack I think.

 

[Desiderius]

Don't you think Improved Precise Shot is super useful for lategame content on a character without natural access to Echolocation?

Jubiholic, what can I say. True Seeing also works. Got to take Blindfight anyway, so benefit is marginal in any case.

 

[Yosharian]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

It was a product of the change where they made multiple Freebooters stack I think.

Ok I'm seeing multiple stacks of Study Target, but I'm not seeing the evidence that this is providing multiple instances of +AB and +Damage to the Slayer

 

[Desiderius]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

It was a product of the change where they made multiple Freebooters stack I think.

Ok I'm seeing multiple stacks of Study Target, but I'm not seeing the evidence that this is providing multiple instances of +AB and +Damage to the Slayer

Looks like you're right.

 

[Yosharian]

So all this time everyone was raging over a non-existent bug? Pfft

 

[Desiderius]

So all this time everyone was raging over a non-existent bug? Pfft

The usual poor coordination between interfaces. I wasn’t raging, quite the opposite. Felt good, man.

 

[Haplo]

Nah, you're missing Sacred + Displacement/Invis Circumstance at minimum. Can probably get in the 90s if you really work at it.

A Parry build to eat Nat 20s should be viable.

Yeah, shared Judgement is probably best Sacred bonus, but there are a lot of ways. Tristian can give +10 with max Touch of Good.

Yeah, sure, Tristan can help more. Kinda forgot that, as I usually used his bonus for skillchecks instead. And +10 is only for 1 round.
At that level there aren't many skillchecks left to pass, though

 

[Yosharian]

I was gonna say, Touch of Good is all fine and dandy but using a standard action to give a buff for one round? When Community domain exists in the game? No thanks, I'll stick with Calming Touch & Guarded Hearth...

 

[John Keel]

Display is kinda meh in Turn based mode :/

I never use Display. Lingering Dirge -> Shaken -> Shatter.

What does Shatter have to with Studied Target?

Shatter auto proc studied target

Edit: so now it's only a UI bug ? Weird, I was almost positive it impacted AB/DMG

 

[John Keel]

Don't you think Improved Precise Shot is super useful for lategame content on a character without natural access to Echolocation?

Jubiholic, what can I say. True Seeing also works. Got to take Blindfight anyway, so benefit is marginal in any case.

Isnt True seeing doing jackshit ?
I remember that someome dug into the code a while ago..

 

[Haplo]

It's useful against Mirror Image. As well as magical concealment, I guess. It doesn't help against blink-like monster abilities.

 

[John Keel]

re: Study target, not a UI bug

 

[Yosharian]

Well, why is it affecting your test and not Desiderius in his test?

 

[Haplo]

Mods?

 

[John Keel]

There are way too many ppl complaining about this bug for it to be mod related I think

edit: A dude from Owlcat said they are working on a fix, it's on their end

 

[Desiderius]

Well, why is it affecting your test and not Desiderius in his test?

I just looked at 3 or 4 random screenshots, but definitely should have procced if it was going to on that Owlbear one.

It did feel like it was stacking over the course of an entire playthrough, for what it’s worth.

 

[Desiderius]

It's useful against Mirror Image. As well as magical concealment, I guess. It doesn't help against blink-like monster abilities.

Never actually tested it. Been using Echolocation due to that chart (erroneously) saying it gave gaze immunity.

 

[John Keel]

Well, why is it affecting your test and not Desiderius in his test?

I just looked at 3 or 4 random screenshots, but definitely should have procced if it was going to on that Owlbear one.

It did feel like it was stacking over the course of an entire playthrough, for what it’s worth.

That's poor science !

 

[John Keel]

Is there a mod or a setting that stops the fucking rods auto activating on rest ?