Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

[Yosharian]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

 

[Yosharian]

Don't you think Improved Precise Shot is super useful for lategame content on a character without natural access to Echolocation?

 

[Desiderius]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

It was a product of the change where they made multiple Freebooters stack I think.

 

[Desiderius]

Don't you think Improved Precise Shot is super useful for lategame content on a character without natural access to Echolocation?

Jubiholic, what can I say. True Seeing also works. Got to take Blindfight anyway, so benefit is marginal in any case.

 

[Yosharian]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

It was a product of the change where they made multiple Freebooters stack I think.

Ok I'm seeing multiple stacks of Study Target, but I'm not seeing the evidence that this is providing multiple instances of +AB and +Damage to the Slayer

 

[Desiderius]

So let me get this straight, Slayer Study Target is stacking with itself currently when you get multiple hits?

It was a product of the change where they made multiple Freebooters stack I think.

Ok I'm seeing multiple stacks of Study Target, but I'm not seeing the evidence that this is providing multiple instances of +AB and +Damage to the Slayer

Looks like you're right.

 

[Yosharian]

So all this time everyone was raging over a non-existent bug? Pfft

 

[Desiderius]

So all this time everyone was raging over a non-existent bug? Pfft

The usual poor coordination between interfaces. I wasn’t raging, quite the opposite. Felt good, man.

 

[Haplo]

Nah, you're missing Sacred + Displacement/Invis Circumstance at minimum. Can probably get in the 90s if you really work at it.

A Parry build to eat Nat 20s should be viable.

Yeah, shared Judgement is probably best Sacred bonus, but there are a lot of ways. Tristian can give +10 with max Touch of Good.

Yeah, sure, Tristan can help more. Kinda forgot that, as I usually used his bonus for skillchecks instead. And +10 is only for 1 round.
At that level there aren't many skillchecks left to pass, though

 

[Yosharian]

I was gonna say, Touch of Good is all fine and dandy but using a standard action to give a buff for one round? When Community domain exists in the game? No thanks, I'll stick with Calming Touch & Guarded Hearth...

 

[John Keel]

Display is kinda meh in Turn based mode :/

I never use Display. Lingering Dirge -> Shaken -> Shatter.

What does Shatter have to with Studied Target?

Shatter auto proc studied target

Edit: so now it's only a UI bug ? Weird, I was almost positive it impacted AB/DMG

 

[John Keel]

Don't you think Improved Precise Shot is super useful for lategame content on a character without natural access to Echolocation?

Jubiholic, what can I say. True Seeing also works. Got to take Blindfight anyway, so benefit is marginal in any case.

Isnt True seeing doing jackshit ?
I remember that someome dug into the code a while ago..

 

[Haplo]

It's useful against Mirror Image. As well as magical concealment, I guess. It doesn't help against blink-like monster abilities.

 

[John Keel]

re: Study target, not a UI bug

 

[Yosharian]

Well, why is it affecting your test and not Desiderius in his test?

 

[Haplo]

Mods?

 

[John Keel]

There are way too many ppl complaining about this bug for it to be mod related I think

edit: A dude from Owlcat said they are working on a fix, it's on their end

 

[Desiderius]

Well, why is it affecting your test and not Desiderius in his test?

I just looked at 3 or 4 random screenshots, but definitely should have procced if it was going to on that Owlbear one.

It did feel like it was stacking over the course of an entire playthrough, for what it’s worth.

 

[Desiderius]

It's useful against Mirror Image. As well as magical concealment, I guess. It doesn't help against blink-like monster abilities.

Never actually tested it. Been using Echolocation due to that chart (erroneously) saying it gave gaze immunity.

 

[John Keel]

Well, why is it affecting your test and not Desiderius in his test?

I just looked at 3 or 4 random screenshots, but definitely should have procced if it was going to on that Owlbear one.

It did feel like it was stacking over the course of an entire playthrough, for what it’s worth.

That's poor science !

 

[John Keel]

Is there a mod or a setting that stops the fucking rods auto activating on rest ?

 

[Desiderius]

I was gonna say, Touch of Good is all fine and dandy but using a standard action to give a buff for one round? When Community domain exists in the game? No thanks, I'll stick with Calming Touch & Guarded Hearth...

I've never used Touch of Good in combat. Nor Arcane Accuracy (same thing). This is an exercise how high can you get, not practical advice.

Tristian's Long Blessing works fine for an easy Sacred +2 when you need it.

Hearth is one use per rest, which ends up being ok since you usually don't need it more often than that. I'd go with Inspiring Command instead with single-class since it lets you get the duration up and also buffs AC. But with Ekun it just ended up being annoyingly short given full round activation time. Plus first community ability gets rid of fatigue.

 

[Desiderius]

Shad's giving me the clowns again.

Probably time to retire P:K for a couple years and come back to enjoy all the mods.

It was real and it was fun. Great game.

 

[John Keel]

Shad's giving me the clowns again.

Probably time to retire P:K for a couple years and come back to enjoy all the mods.

It was real and it was fun. Great game.

Endless with Arcana + Call of the wild + maxlevel unlocker with Turn based combat mod is 'great' atm, despite endless terrible design.

There's probably a few new quality mods that will be made, but I wouldnt count on it.

 

[Desiderius]

There's probably a few new quality mods that will be made, but I wouldnt count on it.

I’m quite confident there will be more than a few. Either that or some better d20 platform will come along to replace it.

Win-win.