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Incendax

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I'm playing female human and there is a romance plot with Maegar lol. Didn't expect this.
All the better when you annihilate Maegar's soul.
That's what he gets for being a bro.
 

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I've been playing Varnhold's Lot for few hours now.

You start off the Varnhold's Lot as level 5, as one of Maegar Varn's companion. The DLC begins with ceremony where you (in the main game) and Maegar are both given the title of Baron/ess.

Its very linear but I'm enjoying it so far - in this DLC, you can't freely roam the world map, the game navigates your party.

I rolled Inquisitor this time and got following companions:
Rogue (Maegar), wizard (Cephal Lorentus), Scaled Fist (Monk), Herald Caller (Priest), Freebooter (Ranger).

I'm playing female human and there is a romance plot with Maegar lol. Didn't expect this.

How does the import mechanic work?
 

ArchAngel

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I've been playing Varnhold's Lot for few hours now.

You start off the Varnhold's Lot as level 5, as one of Maegar Varn's companion. The DLC begins with ceremony where you (in the main game) and Maegar are both given the title of Baron/ess.

Its very linear but I'm enjoying it so far - in this DLC, you can't freely roam the world map, the game navigates your party.

I rolled Inquisitor this time and got following companions:
Rogue (Maegar), wizard (Cephal Lorentus), Scaled Fist (Monk), Herald Caller (Priest), Freebooter (Ranger).

I'm playing female human and there is a romance plot with Maegar lol. Didn't expect this.
Well it makes sense that Maegar chooses the direction of your travels instead of you :)
 

ArchAngel

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I've been playing Varnhold's Lot for few hours now.

You start off the Varnhold's Lot as level 5, as one of Maegar Varn's companion. The DLC begins with ceremony where you (in the main game) and Maegar are both given the title of Baron/ess.

Its very linear but I'm enjoying it so far - in this DLC, you can't freely roam the world map, the game navigates your party.

I rolled Inquisitor this time and got following companions:
Rogue (Maegar), wizard (Cephal Lorentus), Scaled Fist (Monk), Herald Caller (Priest), Freebooter (Ranger).

I'm playing female human and there is a romance plot with Maegar lol. Didn't expect this.

How does the import mechanic work?
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go to main menu, press new game and start it as a different module than main campaign and then import the result onto a save
Yep, AFAIK, that's more or less how it's going to work.

You choose in the main menu whether you want to play the main campaign or the DLC.

Once you've finished the DLC at least once, the game remembers this fact. From now on, when you are playing the main campaign, a window will pop up once you've reached a certain point in the story and ask you to choose which DLC result you'd like to import (in case you've completed the DLC 18 times, for example).

Once you choose a result to import or decline to import, the decision is PERMANENT for this save file and all later ones that "stem" from this one. If you load an earlier save file, the game will prompt you to choose again. You can import the same DLC result onto as many main campaigns as you'd like (of course, most of you have at least 29 concurrent playthroughs, I assume).
 

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How does that work on a game that's pretty far in? I'm level 15 for instance and considering whether I should go play the DLC now or just continue with my playthrough
 

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So when is the best time to play the DLC if you are going to start a new campaign? Would it be better to do the first couple chapters and then do the dlc and import it to your campaign? or just do the campaign and then start a new game?
 

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When you start Varnhold campaign you can choose the main campaign save. I have seen Troll Chapter decision from my imported save mentioned there. I think that end of ch2 (maybe after bloom?) would be the best place to import save to DLC, play it and use completed DLC save when you are prompted for it in your main campaign.

This is how I understand it will work in case of new game. I am still playing DLC and had not tried back-to-main-campaign import.
 
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ArchAngel

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I'm leaving it for my second playthrough. Which will be a no-magic-users playthrough on the hardest difficulty. Probably.
Good luck with that one. I hope you will not run out of healing scrolls :D Also don't forget to have at least two guys with maxed use magic device :)
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
When you start Varnhold campaign you can choose the main campaign save. I have seen Troll Chapter decision from my imported save mentioned there. I think that end of ch2 (maybe after bloom?) would be the best place to import save to DLC, play it and use completed DLC save when you are prompted for it in your main campaign.

This is how I understand it will work in case of new game. I am still playing DLC and had not tried back-to-main-campaign import.

Wait, so you both import your main campaign state into the DLC and then export the consequences of the DLC back into the main campaign? How convoluted.

But I guess it's a way of appeasing the "hate mid-game DLC" crowd. They can treat it as an entirely separate campaign if they really want to...
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Hotfix hotfix: https://steamcommunity.com/games/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/announcements/detail/1819922602481692400

Hotfix 1.2.5d – March 1st, 2019
1 MAR @ 12:41PM - THEZEISONSHA

Dear Pathfinders,

Here's a quick fix for two DLC-related issues:
  • When playing "Varnhold's Lot", a camping encounter could happen that breaks the game. Resolution: fixed.
  • When importing the results of the DLC into the main campaign, the import window would only allow the player to choose the last save file. Resolution: fixed.
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Varn's voice actor's voice doesn't fit the portrait, it should have deeper voice, even though the VA doesn't do bad job. I'm surprised Varn's CG, based on what we've seen in the main game, he's always come off more neutral IMO.
 

ArchAngel

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Varn's voice actor's voice doesn't fit the portrait, it should have deeper voice, even though the VA doesn't do bad job. I'm surprised Varn's CG, based on what we've seen in the main game, he's always come off more neutral IMO.
I am not surprised he is CG. He send you help with no attachments and want to be your ally. That is the Good part. After he joins you he says he never liked to rule, be in charge and make all these decisions. That is the chaotic part.
 

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Varn's voice actor's voice doesn't fit the portrait, it should have deeper voice, even though the VA doesn't do bad job. I'm surprised Varn's CG, based on what we've seen in the main game, he's always come off more neutral IMO.

Yeah, I was so turned off by his voice acting. The wizard guy is much better.

I already finished the "new game" portion of the DLC lol. It took me roughly about 6 hours. I don't think I finished all available quest so I intend to go back to it again sometime - not going to import this one to the main game :P

Overall… a little disappointed. It was quite different to what I expected.. I was hoping it will show what happens once:

Maegar Varn and his subjects are abducted by Vordakai

But that wasn't the case. Well, I know the DLC adds new mission/area in the main game once it is imported - so I suppose I still need to experience that before I can really comment on the DLC :P

Oh, and the companions in this DLC sucks - didn't like them at all. No personality/dialogues and strange stats/classes. They also take away your party members as you progress, so you finish the "new game" portion with only 4 companions.
 
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Simple Simon

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Yeah, I was so turned off by his voice acting. The wizard guy is much better.

I already finished the "new game" portion of the DLC lol. It took me roughly about 6 hours. I don't think I finished all available quest so I intend to go back to it again sometime - not going to import this one to the main game :P

Overall… a little disappointed. It was quite different to what I expected.. I was hoping it will show what happens once:

Maegar Varn and his subjects are abducted by Vordakai

But that wasn't the case. Well, I know the DLC adds new mission/area in the main game once it is imported - so I suppose I still need to experience that before I can really comment on the DLC :P

Oh, and the companions in this DLC sucks - didn't like them at all. No personality/dialogues and strange stats/classes. They also take away your party members as you progress, so you finish the "new game" portion with only 4 companions.

What level were you when you finished the combat portions? Do you recall what enemies/terrains were most used? I am thinking about building a ranger as Varn's waifu I think that would be a good fit for a general from an RP perspective.
 

ArchAngel

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Varn's voice actor's voice doesn't fit the portrait, it should have deeper voice, even though the VA doesn't do bad job. I'm surprised Varn's CG, based on what we've seen in the main game, he's always come off more neutral IMO.

Yeah, I was so turned off by his voice acting. The wizard guy is much better.

I already finished the "new game" portion of the DLC lol. It took me roughly about 6 hours. I don't think I finished all available quest so I intend to go back to it again sometime - not going to import this one to the main game :P

Overall… a little disappointed. It was quite different to what I expected.. I was hoping it will show what happens once:

Maegar Varn and his subjects are abducted by Vordakai

But that wasn't the case. Well, I know the DLC adds new mission/area in the main game once it is imported - so I suppose I still need to experience that before I can really comment on the DLC :P

Oh, and the companions in this DLC sucks - didn't like them at all. No personality/dialogues and strange stats/classes. They also take away your party members as you progress, so you finish the "new game" portion with only 4 companions.
Import it so we can find out what happens. Devs kind of suggested you might get main character from DLC as companion in the main game but didn't want to answer openly.
 

Terra

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Gonna echo the Maegar voice acting complaints. Only played a little bit of the dlc but it was the first thing that hit me. I'm probably going to leave this until a future playthrough since my current & first playthrough is just after Pitax. I did notice most of the dialogue options when talking to Maegar in the throne room (main campaign) have now vanished after the latest patch. Whether that's an effect of the DLC or something else I'm not sure.

Does anyone know the total length of the DLC, if it's not too long yet I guess I could push through it but not really expecting/wanting to import anything in my current run since I'm guessing I'm well past the point any of it would matter.
 

Simple Simon

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Re: Jay Britton's performance, I enjoyed it. It was more refined than I was expecting but I also did not realize Maegar was born into nobility. I think it kind of undercut Maegar's gruff exterior. Just looking at his portrait, you kind of expect a Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. In reality, he's more like Beast in Beauty and the Beast: born into privilege and hiding his vulnerability with a live-for-the moment attitude, e.g. the witch gambit mentioned in the first part of the DLC.
 

Jarpie

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Re: Jay Britton's performance, I enjoyed it. It was more refined than I was expecting but I also did not realize Maegar was born into nobility. I think it kind of undercut Maegar's gruff exterior. Just looking at his portrait, you kind of expect a Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. In reality, he's more like Beast in Beauty and the Beast: born into privilege and hiding his vulnerability with a live-for-the moment attitude, e.g. the witch gambit mentioned in the first part of the DLC.

The performance of the voice work isn't the problem, it's that it doesn't fit the impression they've given to you in the main game, I think they've made the portrait before they had finished the writing. I've gotten used to the voice though.

Import it so we can find out what happens. Devs kind of suggested you might get main character from DLC as companion in the main game but didn't want to answer openly.

Where they've implied this? I think I'm soon done with the DLC so I can then test the imported save in the main game.
 

ArchAngel

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On their forum I think. Or it might have been steam forums. I saw it yesterday.
 

Incendax

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I'm leaving it for my second playthrough. Which will be a no-magic-users playthrough on the hardest difficulty. Probably.
Take a Sensei. They can mass cure negative levels, and mass heal HP.
It’s not a really impressive amount of HP.
But better than natural healing speeds.
 

ga♥

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How does it work? Can you play the DLC during the main campaign or just the separate "new game" option?
 

Simple Simon

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How does it work? Can you play the DLC during the main campaign or just the separate "new game" option?
When you start a new game, you have the option of starting the Varnhold campaign rather than the main campaign. The Varnhold campaign then lets you link your playthrough to a save in the main campaign. So you playthrough the Varnhold campaign and it has an ending. Your choices during the Varnhold campaign will then have effects on your main campaign playthrough. The idea essentially is that you play through the first two chapters of the main campaign. Then you play the Varnhold campaign. Then you pick things back up with the main campaign.
 

ga♥

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How does it work? Can you play the DLC during the main campaign or just the separate "new game" option?
When you start a new game, you have the option of starting the Varnhold campaign rather than the main campaign. The Varnhold campaign then lets you link your playthrough to a save in the main campaign. So you playthrough the Varnhold campaign and it has an ending. Your choices during the Varnhold campaign will then have effects on your main campaign playthrough. The idea essentially is that you play through the first two chapters of the main campaign. Then you play the Varnhold campaign. Then you pick things back up with the main campaign.

So it's not accessible through the main campaign, correct? I may just play it then since I already did 2x playthrough.
 

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