Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[InD_ImaginE]

Batman is literally Neutral Good at best and Chaotic Neutral at worst.

The thought that Batman is a Paladin a.k.a Lawful is non-sense in classical D&D alignment.

Which actions, attitudes, or philosophies place him as Neutral on the Good-Evil axis?

Different interpretations of Batman I guess? modern Justice League DC Movies Batman which have no qualms on killing the criminal while branding the alive one with his batrang arguably is more Neutral than good.

One act does not make a person's alignment. That is like saying muhammed is LG because he spared Mecca as he promised if they submitted to him.

This is the major flaw of sjws and leftards. They cherrypick one act and brand you forever with it. Take a look at what they did to Liam Neeson.

It is kind of implied in the movie that Affleck old Batman is disillusioned regarding the whole no killing and will use lethal force against his villains. In term of alignment he had shifted from Good to Neutral before the movie started. The solo Affleck Batman movie is supposed to explore that but that stuff is cancelled.

Of course the gritty batman stuff is kinda ret conned as soon as Justice League where he is much softer.

Are you seriously telling me that the recent line of DC movies is a good representation of the personalities of the characters as they were originally portrayed? You. Fucking. Millenial.

Thats why I am giving a range from best to worst you twat. If I am going to take only one representation I won't be giving that at best and at worst

 

[TT1]

Batman is Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral, at best.

He really dont care about the law. Actually, mostly of times he is just a vigilantee, trying to punish criminals. Bruce could use his money for doing good, become the mayor or anything, but instead, he dresses like a bat and hunt during the night for his own pleasure.

From D&D perspective, he is no different from the Punisher.

 

[Efe]

are you fishing infinitron for another thread split?

 

[Jenkem]

um.. I completed the womb of Lamashtu and ended the season of bloom, there are like 160-170 days unti lthe next curse, so I am just adventuring and doing kingdom stuff.. but I keep getting these warning boxes with the bird on them about muh kingdom is being attacked by magic users and other beasties, but uhh there are no quests or anything.. yet I'm getting these title cards like I am neglecting shit but I'm not? also they don't say anything about losing stats on the cards like the previous cards did wtf is going on??

 

[Simple Simon]

um.. I completed the womb of Lamashtu and ended the season of bloom, there are like 160-170 days unti lthe next curse, so I am just adventuring and doing kingdom stuff.. but I keep getting these warning boxes with the bird on them about muh kingdom is being attacked by magic users and other beasties, but uhh there are no quests or anything.. yet I'm getting these title cards like I am neglecting shit but I'm not? also they don't say anything about losing stats on the cards like the previous cards did wtf is going on??

Did you take care of the ancient curse part 3 at the bald hilltop? It sounds like you missed it. The ancient curse is separate from the season of bloom.

 

[Jenkem]

I literally said that I am 160-170 days away from it in the thing you quoted. There is nothing to take care of yet as far as I know.

 

[Yosharian]

I literally said that I am 160-170 days away from it in the thing you quoted. There is nothing to take care of yet as far as I know.

It could be that the game is just letting you know about this happening, and an event will come up soon. IIRC that happened to me, I also was like 'ok so can I take care of this??' but it came a bit later. It could be the same thing in your game.

 

[Jenkem]

I literally said that I am 160-170 days away from it in the thing you quoted. There is nothing to take care of yet as far as I know.

It could be that the game is just letting you know about this happening, and an event will come up soon. IIRC that happened to me, I also was like 'ok so can I take care of this??' but it came a bit later. It could be the same thing in your game.

I hope so.. the only time I saw those cards before (and it gave me some negative points) was when I had to stall doing one of the kingdom tasks for the 2nd curse because the advisor needed had 5 days left on a 45 day long mission and I wasn't going to let all that time go to waste. The way they were worded was like "your people are suffering" and shit, so I was worried that something was wrong.

 

[Yosharian]

I literally said that I am 160-170 days away from it in the thing you quoted. There is nothing to take care of yet as far as I know.

It could be that the game is just letting you know about this happening, and an event will come up soon. IIRC that happened to me, I also was like 'ok so can I take care of this??' but it came a bit later. It could be the same thing in your game.

I hope so.. the only time I saw those cards before (and it gave me some negative points) was when I had to stall doing one of the kingdom tasks for the 2nd curse because the advisor needed had 5 days left on a 45 day long mission and I wasn't going to let all that time go to waste. The way they were worded was like "your people are suffering" and shit, so I was worried that something was wrong.

Can you take a screenshot? Might be able to confirm based on that

 

[Ulfhednar]

Vengeance not being good is a modern concept outside of the far eastern spheres. The bible literally says "Eye for an Eye". It is a part of the oldest legal code known to us, the code of Hammurabi. Also, this is not personal vengeance. it is vengeance against the unjust taking advantage of the just. It is perfectly a "good" act in that sense because the evil need be punished not for Balance, but for protecting the weak and discouraging the evil.

"Eye for an eye" is not about vengeance, it is about limited liability under the law. I.e. If someone destroys one of your eyes, you cannot blind them in both eyes. You cannot cut off all their limbs. You cannot murder them in the streets. They are only liable under the law for the eye they took.

Recognizing that vengeance is not a good for society is why humanity started creating systems of jurisprudence and appointed "neutral" judges in the first place. Mosaic Law is not different in this regard as Moses appoints judges to hear cases in Exodus 18 before announcing the law that includes "Eye for an eye" in Exodus 21. Deuteronomy 19 gives more insight into how "eye for an eye" was actually legally implemented to discourage vengeance killings and bearing false witness. Regarding any person who had fled to a sanctuary city to escape a vengeance killer:

"This is the rule concerning anyone who kills a person and flees [to a sanctuary city] for safety—anyone who kills a neighbor unintentionally, without malice aforethought. For instance, a man may go into the forest with his neighbor to cut wood, and as he swings his ax to fell a tree, the head may fly off and hit his neighbor and kill him. That man may flee to one of these cities and save his life. Otherwise, the avenger of blood might pursue him in a rage, overtake him if the distance is too great, and kill him even though he is not deserving of death, since he did it to his neighbor without malice aforethought.

...

Do this so that innocent blood will not be shed in your land, which the Lord your God is giving you as your inheritance, and so that you will not be guilty of bloodshed. But if out of hate someone lies in wait, assaults and kills a neighbor, and then flees to one of these cities, the killer shall be sent for by the town elders, be brought back from the city, and be handed over to the avenger of blood to die. Show no pity. You must purge from Israel the guilt of shedding innocent blood, so that it may go well with you.

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Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot."

 

[Jenkem]

Yosharian ahh ok I think I discovered what it was.. it's labelled as "Accursed things" and there is an event card called that but I guess I never hit start on it even though I assigned an advisor to it since I was tired and it was the last thing I did while playing last night.... so every time I did a 14 day thing like rank up that pop up warning would show because it was still waiting to be done.

 

[Yosharian]

Yosharian ahh ok I think I discovered what it was.. it's labelled as "Accursed things" and there is an event card called that but I guess I never hit start on it even though I assigned an advisor to it since I was tired and it was the last thing I did while playing last night.... so every time I did a 14 day thing like rank up that pop up warning would show because it was still waiting to be done.

Ah fair enough

 

[Cael]

Thats why I am giving a range from best to worst you twat. If I am going to take only one representation I won't be giving that at best and at worst

No. You are giving one incident and making it representative of everything he ever was, you fucktard.

Bruce Wayne Batman has always been consistently CG. The latest line of DC movies are fucked up for the very simple fact they got the motivations and character of just about every single hero wrong. And then they wonder why the MCU is kicking their ass hands down...

 

[Jarpie]

Only enemy I've learned to absolutely hate in in PFK are the fucking mandragora swarms, only tactic against them is to tank Jaethal and her undead minions and have Jubilost throwing the bombs at them. Motherfuckers' drain can't be countered any way, fucking cheap shit.

 

[Yosharian]

Only enemy I've learned to absolutely hate in in PFK are the fucking mandragora swarms, only tactic against them is to tank Jaethal and her undead minions and have Jubilost throwing the bombs at them. Motherfuckers' drain can't be countered any way, fucking cheap shit.

Summons?

 

[Thonius]

Dunno dunno. Mandragora swarm is rare encounter. I believe it's 2 times trough game? While thundercaller and enemy alchemists are both common and lethal.

 

[razvedchiki]

so any info about the dungeon dlc or possible new dlc?on the russian forums?

 

[Jenkem]

where the fuck can I get an emerald necklace? i've checked every trader (the 3 in capital, the 4 different towns, oleg's..) can't find SHIT.

 

[Jarpie]

The devs said in the stream, and in discord that they're improving HATEOT in 1.3 update,

we not trying to make it easier. maybe somewhat less confusing and less repetitive.

 

[razvedchiki]

WHATS HATEOT.

 

[Jarpie]

House At The End of Time, basically the last chapter.

 

[Fedora Master]

WHATS HATEOT.

Pure fucking shit is what it is.

 

[Jenkem]

About to start Varnhold's Lot, did people say the companions were shit and you should make mercs? Does that only apply to harder difficulties? I'll probably play it on Difficult.

 

[Incendax]

HATEOT is the penultimate chapter of the game.
Some people hate it because of the enemies. I don’t.
I hate it because of the herky-jerky story elements for each of your companions, invisible walls that fuck up your ranged attackers, and one dirty visual illusion.

 

[Haplo]

where the fuck can I get an emerald necklace? i've checked every trader (the 3 in capital, the 4 different towns, oleg's..) can't find SHIT.

You will find it considerably later then you can get the quest. I think it might have been Technic League Hideout. After that there will be 1 or 2 more locations where you can loot it.