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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

Lacrymas

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It's most likely a test for Kingmaker 2.
 

Desiderius

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I hope that patch isn't just Turn Based. I hope they will include bug fixes, or something, at the very least. Turn Based does nothing for me.

Looks pretty streamlined. When I come back in ten years I may try it.
 
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Playing around with party composition and retraining my party. I've had Jaethal as a cleric, because it makes sense, but I find that I don't actually use her spells very often. Retrained her to a Freebooter with menace and dirty trick feats. It feels much better. I have mostly been using Kalikke, but I retrained Kanerah to Earth emphasis, and that's working out well. My party was waltzing through everything by the time I got to Trobold (at the latest), but it got pretty bad by the time the Season of Bloom was over. Retooling my party is a symptom of that, but they were not optimized prior. Now that they are, I'm resisting turning up the difficulty from "challenging".

This game is pretty outstanding though. It's one SCS type AI mod (and perhaps some NPC mods) away from being better than BG2, objectively.
 

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It's notoriously difficult to mod the Unity engine unless the devs didn't specifically make it easy, so don't expect SCS. I wouldn't say it's particularly difficult in terms of creativity to make a better RPG than BG2, especially since it isn't even the better game in its own series, so it's just a matter of time now that the RPG floodgates have been opened.
 

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Playing around with party composition and retraining my party. I've had Jaethal as a cleric, because it makes sense, but I find that I don't actually use her spells very often. Retrained her to a Freebooter with menace and dirty trick feats. It feels much better. I have mostly been using Kalikke, but I retrained Kanerah to Earth emphasis, and that's working out well. My party was waltzing through everything by the time I got to Trobold (at the latest), but it got pretty bad by the time the Season of Bloom was over. Retooling my party is a symptom of that, but they were not optimized prior. Now that they are, I'm resisting turning up the difficulty from "challenging".

This game is pretty outstanding though. It's one SCS type AI mod (and perhaps some NPC mods) away from being better than BG2, objectively.
It's notoriously difficult to mod the Unity engine unless the devs didn't specifically make it easy, so don't expect SCS. I wouldn't say it's particularly difficult in terms of creativity to make a better RPG than BG2, especially since it isn't even the better game in its own series, so it's just a matter of time now that the RPG floodgates have been opened.
We don't need a SCS for Kingmaker, because we are getting Wrath of the Righteous soon and I trust Owlcat to put so much soul and content into that that we won't need to replay Kingmaker anytime soon. And I'm saying this as someone who is still actively playing Kingmaker.
 

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Here's a small edit I did. She now has green eyes! Just like her Portrait!
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Steam sale is on. So if I buy this now, in August I can play it turn based?

Is it possible to enjoy this game if you are not a build nerd? I never got into 3rd/3.5/PF much and don't want to have to study the system for 100 hours before character creation to avoid a gimped character or party.
 

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Steam sale is on. So if I buy this now, in August I can play it turn based?

Is it possible to enjoy this game if you are not a build nerd? I never got into 3rd/3.5/PF much and don't want to have to study the system for 100 hours before character creation to avoid a gimped character or party.
Yes, absolutely. A lot of the build talk on this thread is about hybrid builds but you can absolutely play well if you just stick to pure classing and pick obviously beneficial feats.
 

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Steam sale is on. So if I buy this now, in August I can play it turn based?

Is it possible to enjoy this game if you are not a build nerd? I never got into 3rd/3.5/PF much and don't want to have to study the system for 100 hours before character creation to avoid a gimped character or party.
You can also play it turn-based now with a mod which, as far as I know, works pretty damn well.
 

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Steam sale is on. So if I buy this now, in August I can play it turn based?

Is it possible to enjoy this game if you are not a build nerd? I never got into 3rd/3.5/PF much and don't want to have to study the system for 100 hours before character creation to avoid a gimped character or party.
Yes, absolutely. A lot of the build talk on this thread is about hybrid builds but you can absolutely play well if you just stick to pure classing and pick obviously beneficial feats.

PF was designed to correct for OP multi-classing in 3.5. Each class has several abilities which get better based on levels in that class, so there's a pretty strong incentive not to multi-class unless there's something you need that your base class doesn't offer (such as Uncanny Dodge for a high-DEX melee character, for instance). Your first time through you're probably better off to pick one class and stick with it. I'd recommend a class with a pet to make the early game (which can be the hardest part for new players) go smoothly. So that's Sylvan Sorceror, any Druid (other than Blight Druid), Sacred Huntmaster Inquisitor, or Mad Dog Barbarian.
 

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Steam sale is on. So if I buy this now, in August I can play it turn based?

Is it possible to enjoy this game if you are not a build nerd? I never got into 3rd/3.5/PF much and don't want to have to study the system for 100 hours before character creation to avoid a gimped character or party.
>Is it possible to enjoy this game if you are not a build nerd?
Yeah. Just don't jump into Unfair. Start on Normal then increase the difficulty when it gets too easy.
 

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Steam sale is on. So if I buy this now, in August I can play it turn based?

Is it possible to enjoy this game if you are not a build nerd? I never got into 3rd/3.5/PF much and don't want to have to study the system for 100 hours before character creation to avoid a gimped character or party.
I'm no expert but what happebed to me that even paying some attention to builds ( in no way min maxing) played on challenging difficult all game , which is 1 above normal I think, and mid game was supereasy, but the end suddenly spiked and was full of more difficult fights that weren't even boss fight. So I had to lower the difficulty because the game is so long that at that point I didn't have the stamina to sit and think of new comps and gearing up again. Just saying, brace for a spike in difficulty at the end of a long game.
 

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It's cool if you can adjust difficulty later. I got rather burned by POE and its DLC area leveling option which applied to the entire DLC, no takebacks without going back in time and reloading before you hit a single area of the DLC. Also its inability to change level difficulty for a map once you had entered it. Hopefully Pathfinder, like Baldur's Gate, lets you adjust difficulty on the fly.
 

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Showcasing other areas you can poke for experience and gold. However, with that said, three nodes will be left until after level 5 is reached. Boggards, Leopard, and Silent's wolf pack. Now that the best possible gear is obtained, well at this stage of the game anyways, a portion of gold will be reserved for Kingdom management.
 

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Showcasing other areas you can poke for experience and gold. However, with that said, three nodes will be left until after level 5 is reached. Boggards, Leopard, and Silent's wolf pack. Now that the best possible gear is obtained, well at this stage of the game anyways, a portion of gold will be reserved for Kingdom management.


Make sure to take the free 500 BP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_value_of_money
 

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Russians.

This is why the Bolsheviks had to rely on Wall Street for funding.
 

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