Game News Pathfinder: Kingmaker now on Kickstarter

[ArchAngel]

Since it is IGN, it is normal retards also read articles and feel the need to show everyone they are retards by commenting.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

It's terrifying how stupid those comments are.

 

[Kem0sabe]

IGN...

 

[PrettyDeadman]

the visuals look dated. when can we have a good DnD game? dang

 

[Hamster]

The footage looks really good, kinda surprised how competent it all feels.

Except for the visuals. Owlcats need to contact fellow russians from Studio MONO and ask them to explain this bizzare foreign concept of "art style".

FFS, Studio MONO got just 90 000$ on kickstarter and that's how their game looks:

 

[ArchAngel]

That above picture would make a terrible genericTolkien fantasy world so better that they didn't

 

[Hamster]

I miss the time when generic fantasy looked like this:

 

[Wonderdog]

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

new info and gameplay videos. looks super cool: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/06/09/pathfinder-kingmaker-could-scratch-your-dd-rpg-itch

god damn that looks fucking nice. Looks like baldurs gate III or whatever, its basically an updated IE engine with D&D rules and combat as far as I can tell. Looks about 100 times better than PoE, I am going to go out on a limb and say this will be the best of the 'new' klickstarter aged RPG's or flat out game of any type.

Can't understand why people would not want or like this.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

The footage looks really good, kinda surprised how competent it all feels.

Except for the visuals. Owlcats need to contact fellow russians from Studio MONO and ask them to explain this bizzare foreign concept of "art style".

FFS, Studio MONO got just 90 000$ on kickstarter and that's how their game looks:

that is a cool picture. It is sort of strange though because it looks like a mid-evil setting and then there is a dude in a racing outfit or track suit and bicycle helmet plopped right in the middle. But it is very nicely done.

 

[Hamster]

that is a cool picture. It is sort of strange though because it looks like a mid-evil setting and then there is a dude in a racing outfit or track suit and bicycle helmet plopped right in the middle. But it is very nicely done.

They call it diesel punk:

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...et-in-a-brutal-dieselpunk-univers/description

Spoiler

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...et-in-a-brutal-dieselpunk-univers/description

The problem is that unlike Owlcat these are inexperienced game devs and there is no guarantee their game won't suck at everything except for visuals.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

that is a cool picture. It is sort of strange though because it looks like a mid-evil setting and then there is a dude in a racing outfit or track suit and bicycle helmet plopped right in the middle. But it is very nicely done.

They call it diesel punk:

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...et-in-a-brutal-dieselpunk-univers/description

Spoiler

The problem is that unlike Owlcat these are inexperienced game devs and there is no guarantee their game won't suck at everything except for visuals.

that looks pretty nice. now that I watch the video I remember seeing it before, but the new pictures you just posted look better than some of the older ones for some reason. Sounds sort of along the same broad story line as the Irontower game, except for it being real time of course. I hope it turns out good, I am sure I will be giving it a try when it is ready.

 

[Vault Dweller]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/posts/1908717

Due to her flawless, almost supernatural beauty, Valerie has been at the center of everyone's attention, even when she was still a child. Born into a noble Brevic family, the young girl soon became a shining star of high society. She quickly had to learn to resist the unwanted advances of her admirers, using cold arrogance and impeccable, distant manners as an impenetrable shield. Her father had chosen a great destiny for Valerie: she was supposed to become a paladin of Shelyn. However, the teachings of obedience and humbleness before the goddess of beauty and love appeared to be something that young Valerie wasn't too susceptible to - unlike the lessons of martial arts, which she mastered almost to perfection. The life of Valerie had changed dramatically when an act of blasphemy made her future path as Shelyn's paladin impossible. Having rejected the grace of the goddess, she left high society to take her fate into her own hands.

Today Valerie is not some nobleman's pampered daughter. Instead, she has become a seasoned mercenary, who has lived through dozens of battles under the banners of Swordlords. Having her gorgeous hair cut off and her silk dresses replaced by steel armor, she has broken with her past without hesitation. But is the past ready to stay behind the proud and confident mercenary? Even the kindest of gods don't take well to blasphemy, and the revenge of Shelyn may not only be harsh, but also incredibly poetic.

For those who appreciate her military talents, Valerie will become a reliable defender in every possible challenge. In battle, she uses a bastard sword and a tower shield. Valerie prefers full plate armor and defensive tactics: she waits patiently until the enemy reveals an opening, and only then she strikes with all her might.

Valerie is a natural-born leader, who can inspire and rally people. If she gets an important role in the Kingdom governance, she can show her talents not only in state defense but also in the field of diplomacy. Although she once has rejected the path of a lady in high society, Valerie still knows how to behave in aristocratic circles and how to save face in conflict situations. Though she may prefer the way of the blade, if necessary, Valerie can actively participate in diplomatic maneuvers as well as in straightforward battles.

Heroic fantasy for 14-year olds?

So there is this noble girl who's so freaking hot and awesome in every way. Her dad wants her to become a paladin because that's what noble lords do, but even though she's young, she is a strong, independent woman so she says fuck you dad and becomes a master of martial arts. Her favorite weapon is a bastard sword and her favorite shield is a tower shield and her favorite armor is full plate armor and she never ever takes it off. She quickly becomes a badass mercenary but that's not all she is. She's also a great leader, and a 'defendor' of people and a diplomat because there's nothing she cannot do.

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/posts/1908717

Due to her flawless, almost supernatural beauty, Valerie has been at the center of everyone's attention, even when she was still a child. Born into a noble Brevic family, the young girl soon became a shining star of high society. She quickly had to learn to resist the unwanted advances of her admirers, using cold arrogance and impeccable, distant manners as an impenetrable shield. Her father had chosen a great destiny for Valerie: she was supposed to become a paladin of Shelyn. However, the teachings of obedience and humbleness before the goddess of beauty and love appeared to be something that young Valerie wasn't too susceptible to - unlike the lessons of martial arts, which she mastered almost to perfection. The life of Valerie had changed dramatically when an act of blasphemy made her future path as Shelyn's paladin impossible. Having rejected the grace of the goddess, she left high society to take her fate into her own hands.

Today Valerie is not some nobleman's pampered daughter. Instead, she has become a seasoned mercenary, who has lived through dozens of battles under the banners of Swordlords. Having her gorgeous hair cut off and her silk dresses replaced by steel armor, she has broken with her past without hesitation. But is the past ready to stay behind the proud and confident mercenary? Even the kindest of gods don't take well to blasphemy, and the revenge of Shelyn may not only be harsh, but also incredibly poetic.

For those who appreciate her military talents, Valerie will become a reliable defender in every possible challenge. In battle, she uses a bastard sword and a tower shield. Valerie prefers full plate armor and defensive tactics: she waits patiently until the enemy reveals an opening, and only then she strikes with all her might.

Valerie is a natural-born leader, who can inspire and rally people. If she gets an important role in the Kingdom governance, she can show her talents not only in state defense but also in the field of diplomacy. Although she once has rejected the path of a lady in high society, Valerie still knows how to behave in aristocratic circles and how to save face in conflict situations. Though she may prefer the way of the blade, if necessary, Valerie can actively participate in diplomatic maneuvers as well as in straightforward battles.

Heroic fantasy for 14-year olds?

So there is this noble girl who's so freaking hot and awesome in every way. Her dad wants her to become a paladin because that's what noble lords do, but even though she's young, she is a strong, independent woman so she says fuck you dad and becomes a master of martial arts. Her favorite weapon is a bastard sword and her favorite shield is a tower shield and her favorite armor is full plate armor and she never ever takes it off. She quickly becomes a badass mercenary but that's not all she is. She's also a great leader, and a 'defendor' of people and a diplomat because there's nothing she cannot do.

...and Chris Avellone joined this game to write her!

 

[Quantomas]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/posts/1908717

Heroic fantasy for 14-year olds?

You are absolutely right. Though I believe the devs will learn quickly.

The same post drew flak in the KS main comment section for non-adherence to Pathfinder lore. Interestingly the devs conceded and agreed to a review.

 

[Athelas]

It's pretty obvious they're leaving out some secret twist to her character that her companion arc will center on.

Spoiler

inb4 post-op tranny

 

[Infinitron]

Athelas, you're back!!

(j/k I know you've been lurking the entire time. wtf?)

 

[vortex]

Except for the visuals. Owlcats need to contact fellow russians from Studio MONO and ask them to explain this bizzare foreign concept of "art style".

That is diferent engine and different art style. I think Kingmaker artists paint backgrounds while Insomnia is 3D. Though as Hamster mentioned, they could draw more light and shadow in their environments.

 

[Morality Games]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/posts/1908717

Due to her flawless, almost supernatural beauty, Valerie has been at the center of everyone's attention, even when she was still a child. Born into a noble Brevic family, the young girl soon became a shining star of high society. She quickly had to learn to resist the unwanted advances of her admirers, using cold arrogance and impeccable, distant manners as an impenetrable shield. Her father had chosen a great destiny for Valerie: she was supposed to become a paladin of Shelyn. However, the teachings of obedience and humbleness before the goddess of beauty and love appeared to be something that young Valerie wasn't too susceptible to - unlike the lessons of martial arts, which she mastered almost to perfection. The life of Valerie had changed dramatically when an act of blasphemy made her future path as Shelyn's paladin impossible. Having rejected the grace of the goddess, she left high society to take her fate into her own hands.

Today Valerie is not some nobleman's pampered daughter. Instead, she has become a seasoned mercenary, who has lived through dozens of battles under the banners of Swordlords. Having her gorgeous hair cut off and her silk dresses replaced by steel armor, she has broken with her past without hesitation. But is the past ready to stay behind the proud and confident mercenary? Even the kindest of gods don't take well to blasphemy, and the revenge of Shelyn may not only be harsh, but also incredibly poetic.

For those who appreciate her military talents, Valerie will become a reliable defender in every possible challenge. In battle, she uses a bastard sword and a tower shield. Valerie prefers full plate armor and defensive tactics: she waits patiently until the enemy reveals an opening, and only then she strikes with all her might.

Valerie is a natural-born leader, who can inspire and rally people. If she gets an important role in the Kingdom governance, she can show her talents not only in state defense but also in the field of diplomacy. Although she once has rejected the path of a lady in high society, Valerie still knows how to behave in aristocratic circles and how to save face in conflict situations. Though she may prefer the way of the blade, if necessary, Valerie can actively participate in diplomatic maneuvers as well as in straightforward battles.

Heroic fantasy for 14-year olds?

So there is this noble girl who's so freaking hot and awesome in every way. Her dad wants her to become a paladin because that's what noble lords do, but even though she's young, she is a strong, independent woman so she says fuck you dad and becomes a master of martial arts. Her favorite weapon is a bastard sword and her favorite shield is a tower shield and her favorite armor is full plate armor and she never ever takes it off. She quickly becomes a badass mercenary but that's not all she is. She's also a great leader, and a 'defendor' of people and a diplomat because there's nothing she cannot do.

In fairness, to be a mercenary commander you sort of have to be amazing.

 

[Vault Dweller]

As a mercenary commander you have to be a good leader (i.e. keep your men happy by providing them with regular pillage & plunder opportunities) and a good fighter. You don't have to be a great diplomat with impeccable manners, supernatural beauty, ability to beat every possible challenge, and possess other important qualities of a cartoon character. Most importantly, you have to have flaws and certain character traits that explain how you managed to excel at the mercenary business.

The greatest mercenary leader was probably Wallenstein. Let's compare his resume to that of the cartoon girl:

https://www.thoughtco.com/thirty-years-war-albrecht-von-wallenstein-2360692

Albrecht von Wallenstein - Rise to Power:
Returning home to Bohemia, he married the wealthy widow Lucretia Nikossie von Landeck. Inheriting her fortune and estates in Moravia upon her death in 1614, von Wallenstein used it buy influence. After splendidly fitting out a company of 200 cavalry, he presented it to Archduke Ferdinand of Styria for use in fighting the Venetians. In 1617, von Wallenstein married Isabella Katharina. The couple had two children, though only one, a daughter, survived infancy. With the outbreak of the Thirty Years' War in 1618, von Wallenstein declared his support for the Imperial cause.

Forced to flee his lands in Moravia, he brought the province's treasury to Vienna. Equipping a regiment of cuirassiers, von Wallenstein joined the army of Karel Bonaventura Buquoy and saw service against the Protestant armies of Ernst von Mansfeld and Gabriel Bethlen. Winning notice as a brilliant commander, von Wallenstein was able to recover his lands after the Catholic victory at the Battle of White Mountain in 1620. He also benefited from the favoritism of Ferdinand who had ascended to post of Holy Roman Emperor in 1619.

Albrecht von Wallenstein - The Emperor's Commander:
Through the emperor, von Wallenstein was able to acquire the large estates that had belonged to his mother's family as well as purchased huge tracts of confiscated land. Adding these to his holdings, he reorganized the territory and named it Friedland. In addition, military successes brought titles with the emperor making him an imperial count palatine in 1622, and a prince a year later. With the entry of the Danes into the conflict, Ferdinand found himself without an army under his control to oppose them. While the army of the Catholic League was in the field, it belonged to Maximilian of Bavaria.

Seizing the opportunity, von Wallenstein approached the emperor in 1625, and offered to raise an entire army on his behalf. Elevated to Duke of Friedland, von Wallenstein initially assembled a force of 30,000 men. On April 25, 1626, von Wallenstein and his new army defeated a force under Mansfield at the Battle of Dessau Bridge. Operating in conjunction with the Count of Tilly's Catholic League Army, von Wallenstein campaigned against Mansfeld and Bethlan.

In 1627, his army swept through Silesia clearing it of Protestant forces. In the wake of this victory, he purchased the Duchy of Sagan from the emperor.

The next year, von Wallenstein's army moved into Mecklenburg in support of Tilly's efforts against the Danes. Named Duke of Mecklenburg for his services, von Wallenstein was frustrated when his siege of Stralsund failed, denying him access to the Baltic and the ability to confront Sweden and the Netherlands at sea. He was further distressed when Ferdinand announced the Edict of Restitution in 1629. This called for the return of several principalities to Imperial control and the conversion of their inhabitants to Catholicism.

Though von Wallenstein personally opposed the edict, he began moving his 134,000-man army to enforce it, angering many of the German princes.

This was hampered by the intervention of Sweden and the arrival of its army under the gifted leadership of King Gustavus Adolphus. In 1630, Ferdinand called a meeting of the electors at Regensburg with the goal of having his son voted as his successor. Angered by von Wallenstein's arrogance and actions, the princes, led by Maximilian, demanded the commander's removal in exchange for their votes. Ferdinand agreed and riders were sent to inform von Wallenstein of his fate.

Albrecht von Wallenstein - Return to Power:
Turning his army over to Tilly, he retired to Jitschin in Friedland. While he lived on his estates, the war went badly for the emperor as the Swedes crushed Tilly at the Battle of Breitenfeld in 1631. The following April, Tilly was defeated at killed at Rain. With the Swedes in Munich and occupying Bohemia, Ferdinand recalled von Wallenstein. Returning to duty, he swiftly raised a new army and cleared the Saxons from Bohemia. After defeating the Swedes at Alte Veste, he encountered Gustavus Adolphus' army at Lützen in November 1632.

In the battle that ensued, von Wallenstein's army was defeated but Gustavus Adolphus was killed. Much to the emperor's dismay, von Wallenstein did not exploit the king's death, but rather retreated into winter quarters. When the campaign season began in 1633, von Wallenstein mystified his superiors by avoiding confrontations with the Protestants. This was largely due to his anger over the Edict of Restitution and his beginning secret negotiations with Saxony, Sweden, Brandenburg, and France to end the war. While little is know regarding the talks, he claimed to be seeking a just peace for a unified Germany.

Albrecht von Wallenstein - Downfall:
While von Wallenstein worked to stay loyal to the emperor, it is clear that he was seeking to aggrandize his own power. As the talks flagged, he sought to reassert his power by finally going on the offensive. Attacking the Swedes and Saxons, he won his final victory at Steinau in October 1633.

After von Wallenstein moved to winter quarters around Pilsen, news of the secret talks reached the emperor in Vienna.

Moving quickly, Ferdinand had a secret court find him guilty of treason and signed a patent removing from command on January 24, 1634. This was followed by an open patent charging him with treason which was published in Prague on February 23. Realizing the danger, von Wallenstein rode from Pilsen to Eger with the goal of meeting with the Swedes. Two nights after arriving, a plot was put into motion to eliminate the general. Scots and Irish dragoons from von Wallenstein's army seized and killed many of his senior officers, while a small force, led by Walter Devereux, killed the general in his bedroom.

See the difference?

Just look at the 'rise to power' chapter: married a rich widow, used her money to buy influence, hired 200 men and offered them to Ferdinand, was forced to flee and took the province's treasury with him (clearly, a practical man), hired more men, got his lands back and made a name for himself. Obviously, he was a brilliant commander but he was a lot more than that (and not necessarily in a good way) and it's those 'more than that' qualities that flesh him out as a 'character'.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

The greatest mercenary leader was probably Wallenstein. Let's compare his resume to that of the cartoon girl:

Wow it's astonishing how his biography resembles biograph of Griffith from Berserk. Griffith had to sleep with old men to get money for his campaign but similarities are still striking.
Truly a fleshed out character, no wonder Berserk is considered to be a masterpice. Was berserk based on Bohemia? Will Kigndome Come be similar to Berserk?

 

[Quantomas]

As a mercenary commander you have to be a good leader (i.e. keep your men happy by providing them with regular pillage & plunder opportunities) and a good fighter. You don't have to be a great diplomat with impeccable manners, supernatural beauty, ability to beat every possible challenge, and possess other important qualities of a cartoon character. Most importantly, you have to have flaws and certain character traits that explain how you managed to excel at the mercenary business.

The greatest mercenary leader was probably Wallenstein. Let's compare his resume to that of the cartoon girl:

[...]

See the difference?

You have an impeccable background.

Owlcat comes from a different direction. Their leaders worked on Heroes 5, which has in long-standing NWC tradition a rather casual approach to lore which was entertaining nevertheless.

I have no doubt that Pathfinder fans and MCA will educate them. Though I am curious what MCA's role comprises, whether senior narrative designer implies narrative director with additional design tasks (hence designer) or whether the agreement is more specific. He hinted in a recent podcast that he nary participates in meetings as a freelancer, but didn't say whether he does more for Kingmaker.

It would be enlightening to have a Codex interview with MCA that can explore the relation and the scope of his vision for Owlcat's take on Pathfinder's Kingmaker.

 

[Wonderdog]

That's why HBS is miles a head of other studios ,,.in the twilight zone

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You're the ultimate shitposter...

Your post about HBS makes you the ultimate shill, much worse in any reality.

 

[l3loodAngel]

That's why HBS is miles a head of other studios ,,.in the twilight zone

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You're the ultimate shitposter...

Your post about HBS makes you the ultimate shill, much worse in any reality.

You live not only in Alt right world, but also in alternative reality if you believe that an honest upaid opinion is shilling. Go back to reading fake facebook news, because you lack critical thinking and don't have a slightest idea what shilling is or what an opinion is.

 

[Wonderdog]

You live not only in Alt right world, but also in alternative reality if you believe that an honest upaid opinion is shilling. Go back to reading fake facebook news, because you lack critical thinking and don't have a slightest idea what shilling is or what an opinion is.

DRUMPF