KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Theldaran]

All the character descriptions and journal entries are written by a young female gnome bard that is also your companion. The whole game is kind of a story in her book that she wrote.. very IWD like.

Oohhhh that makes a lot of sense only a girl can be that sappy

I hope she writes good things about me (character)

That's... s-sexism.

 

[sstacks]

Looks potentially sweet. I like the style of the art, too.

Is it turn-based RTwP (like IE games) or non turn-based (like PoE)?

PS. In case people don't understand what I mean by "turn-based RTwP", I remind you that combat in BG2 was based on 6-second turns. PoE abandoned that concept.

I THINK it's "turn based" RTwP. My reason for this is the combat info shows initiative rolls at the beginning of combat for everyone, and then they seem to act in that order initially.

 

[sstacks]

Also I don't know if you noticed in the videos and this might not be news to everyone but they got Attacks of Opportunity already implemented. Even for moving.

I hope so cuz I'm putting points in Mobility

 

[sstacks]

A magus without shocking grasp hurts my soul but the game itself is looking pretty nice so far.

LOL well I am not familiar with the Pathinder specific stuff added to D&D 3.5, I chose a Magus because that is what people asked for on this thread.

Any tips are welcome.

I will also probably do some livestreaming on Twitch or YouTube so folks can give me real time feedback / advice.

 

[Infinitron]

Pathfinder: Kingmaker SteamDB page: https://steamdb.info/app/649110/

Looks like it was created several days before the Kickstarter launched back in June.

 

[vonAchdorf]

Will they change that you can steal peoples' stuff from under their nose and even sell it back to them?

The game looks really good though, I praised the UI and its use of animations already, but I think the whole style with the kinda low rez / smoothed textures on objects is a nice middle-ground between cartoony and realistic.

The character sheet is pretty good and I like the whole progression view.

 

[Ent]

So how does initiative work in game?

 

[vonAchdorf]

So how does initiative work in game?

I think like in 3.5 / Pathfinder it's rolled, the rolls are in the log

 

[Zero Credibility]

LOL well I am not familiar with the Pathinder specific stuff added to D&D 3.5, I chose a Magus because that is what people asked for on this thread.

Your regular magus has two nifty abilities - spell combat (cast with off hand while doing full attacks with one-handed melee weapon) and spellstrike (deliver touch spells with weapon, with possible critical damage). While I'm not a big fan of this, shocking grasp is the spell most used for this. Cast shocking grasp, move into melee, spellstrike for possibly massive damage, and still get your full normal weapon attacks. If you lack damaging touch spells you can also use a touch cantrip this way (arcane mark can be used this way, but touch of fatigue that normally is not a magus spell is better as it actually does something useful), essentially gaining a bonus weapon attack (that now also fatigues target).

Don't know how that plays out in rtwp though.

 

[Ent]

Also the benefit of casting a spell through your weapon via spell strike is that the spell can critically hit for double damage if the weapon strike used to deliver the spell successfully crits. Thats why magi tend to like one-handed weapons with large crit windows such as rapiers, scimitars, falchions etc.

 

[Zero Credibility]

Especially scimitars because of the Dervish Dance feat, dump strength and pump dex for attack and damage. Shocking grasp + scimitar magus is almost a cliche, it's why I dislike this combination.

 

[Ent]

The last time I played there were new feats like fencing grace and slashing grace added to get dex to damage on rapier and other weapons.

 

[Infinitron]

Ideas needed for Codex backer content: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/pathfinder-kingmaker-codex-quest-ideas.119800/

 

[Zero Credibility]

The last time I played there were new feats like fencing grace and slashing grace added to get dex to damage on rapier and other weapons.

There are, but the official ruling seems to be that those don't work with magus spell combat because spell cast in off hand counts as a weapon and those feats need empty hand. Only Dervish Dance works, because who the fuck knows why. Maybe someone had a hard-on for Drizzt and his scimitars.

 

[Background Character]

Since this is 3.X does that mean the Wizards reigns supreme?

Burrito supreme and a chicken supreme and a cutlass supreme
SUPREME

 

[TT1]

Sorry for the silence. I'm in the midst of a move from Brazil to Poland and this seems to affect me more than I imagined.

I installed the game recently and only played for half an hour. Some things to say:

- I played AD&D for several years of my life and stopped playing during the launch of the 3rd edition. So for me, creating a character in Pathfinder is like returning to an old happy memory. It's all there, from the six classic attributes to the skills, like "blind fighting". It's a beauty in game form.

- The character creation screen is one of the best I've seen (though several icons are still missing). Large letters, multiple details, a lot of customization options.

- I started a playthrough of a Neutral Evil character, my preferred alignment, but I found some pretty silly replies to this alignment. I hope this is fixed in the final version. Anyway, I will give my feedback on the official forum.

- I did not have high expectations for this game but I was positively surprised. I will play more and follow the development closely. This game has everything to become a great classic of our generation.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Finally, a good D&D style game.

 

[M0RBUS]

I don't know exactly how these guys do their marketing (as in maybe they're going for viral only), but everyone seems to be loving this.
Me included. I think they're doing a bang-up job with everything, including the writing, which is where I was the most apprehensive. Linzi seems like a very interesting character

 

[Ent]

They errata'd Fencing and Slashing grace? The feats did not have that nothing in the offhand restriction on release. Well that sucks - they are really hesitant to add more sources of dex to damage in game.

 

[Zero Credibility]

It's the "You do not gain this benefit while fighting with two weapons or using flurry of blows, or anytime another hand is otherwise occupied." part. They errata'd this to specifically include spell combat. And I actually agree with limiting dex to damage, if it was up to me I'd dump all feats that do that completely. But why so specifically kick any non-scimitar magus, but leave dervish dancers alone? Scimitar fetish, that's why.

 

[TT1]

I just used the rest/ camping system. My God, it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It makes you want to cry.

 

[Lilura]

Can't wait to rip this one a new asshole when it gets released.

 

[Cross]

This looks surprisingly competent, though I don't know why the HUD icons look like an exact replica of the ones in PoE...

How is character death handled?

 

[Palomides]

I want to kill the stupid midget bard, her attitude is irritating already.
The user interface looks much nicer and is possibly superior to pillars of eternity.
This game is actually exciting me, though I shall remain sceptical.

 

[vonAchdorf]

The overland map has a great RoA vibe - would be even better if the talk only encounters would be handled without zooming into a battleground.