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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

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I mean isnt the Orc baby only moral dilema because it does offer opportunity(throught not guranteed) to basically have nurture overcome nature ? as in only baby can be non evil and even then its not guranteed and you need to really work for it ?
It's predicated on the idea that a baby is innocent until it later chooses good or evil. However, orcs are of evil alignment. They're evil from birth. The only reason an orc baby doesn't rape and/or kill you on sight is because it's a just baby.
 

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P2W game
 

Gradenmayer

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Swarm scales infinitely based on corpses eaten? Isn't that obviously broken? Unless body counts required per stack are in hundreds.
 

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Anyone here that played both PKM at release and latest version of PWotR beta? Can you compare the state of the game between those two versions and do you feel that PWotR will be less buggy at release than PKM was?
 

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PKM on release was Troika-level, maybe even worse, since in their games endgame at least wasn't as bugged. Wrath would be a more traditional day 1 rpg release, most likely amount of bugs I predict would be in mythics and in all the tacticooly left out classes abilities and kits and spells, which they added because they look cool, but now someone has to code all that shit and we are idea guys, capable of writing polyamour romances, making borsch and that's it.
 

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Anyone here that played both PKM at release and latest version of PWotR beta? Can you compare the state of the game between those two versions and do you feel that PWotR will be less buggy at release than PKM was?
Kingmaker was like a Troika game bugged, WotR is like Bethesda game bugged. Make of that what you will.
 

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PKM on release was Troika-level, maybe even worse, since in their games endgame at least wasn't as bugged. Wrath would be a more traditional day 1 rpg release, most likely amount of bugs I predict would be in mythics and in all the tacticooly left out classes abilities and kits and spells, which they added because they look cool, but now someone has to code all that shit and we are idea guys, capable of writing polyamour romances, making borsch and that's it.

Has there ever been anything worse than PKM on release?

I've never played ANYTHING that shitty, genuine gamestopper bugs, actually remarkably poor on release.
 

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Anyone here that played both PKM at release and latest version of PWotR beta? Can you compare the state of the game between those two versions and do you feel that PWotR will be less buggy at release than PKM was?
Kingmaker was like a Troika game bugged, WotR is like Bethesda game bugged. Make of that what you will.

The first Beta was much less bugged than Kangmaker, extremely playable.

Most bugs are prob in new class abilities.
 

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Don't rate me 'What?' ever again, Sarkile Here's an instance of Desi stating, as authoritatively as possible, that Kingmaker's poz is a caricature of SJWsm; and how it somehow subverts the trope - because the developers are russians. When in reality it's the opposite. As it has recently come to light that they were going to add some tranny into Kingmaker; however due to time constraints, they cut it out. Whom, I might add, was going to have some intimate relationship with Linzi.

You may not be interested in the Poz, but the Poz is very interested in you. This game subverts it. You can take refuge in classical archetypes or you can take the fight to the enemy. Given the enemy the latter seems the manlier option.

Of course they're not sexy. That's the whole point of the Poz. Birth rates aren't going to reduce themselves.

You added a bunch of shit to what I said. Realty itself subverts SJWism which is why it sucks. A writer who seeks to accurately reflect reality - Val getting her comeuppance, Amiri's stonk wamen getting owned, whatever - is going to subvert SJWism just by doing her job well. Pretty much each of the companion quest arcs in P:K subvert SJW tropes one way or another. Less so here and Ekun -> Seelah is a step down and the buckbroken Cleric even further. Lann reconciling with his family is miles ahead of Eder's abortion of a quest in Deadfire so a mixed bag.

The Poz is weak-willed acceptance/half-hearted celebration of base nature (and perversions thereof) and the ignorance of any alternative or why anyone would want one as well as an effort to (sometimes passive-aggressively) drag everyone else down to that level. Lurv is lurv. As LannTheStupid has said some of that here is just Russian fatalism, some a hangover of trendy Western libertarianism/libertinism. Yeah, it's there, it sux, I avoid it, the game makes the perversions relatively easy to avoid.

That said, most of you phaggots have personal issues you've evidently decided to work out at my expense by making shit up about me or what I meant or have written or whatever. Life's too short for your nihilist horseshit. You're on ignore.

For the new thread I'm just sticking to game mechanics stuff and all y'all can fuck right off.
You’re such a crybaby and a simp that you’ll go above and beyond to defend “le based owlcat”:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I am excited to play this mostly cause I am doing it alongside with my dad and friends, but I also acknowledge I have shit taste in games but seeing this hailed as the the second coming especially on the codex of all places is hilarious:lol::lol::lol:
Ahhh i expect it to have sjw garbage for sure,but i also expect to be able to go full jihadi joe and fuck up shit i dislike.
 

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I know the game is not out yet but, what would like guys like the next pathfinder be based on? I would love to play the iron gods adventure path
 

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As alignments are meta-properties, it's reasonable to assume your own character(which is separate from you) is not aware of their alignment.
Yep. They're a shorthand. A tool. It outright says this in the player's/DM's guide.
There is no way they can be meta properties when there is literally low levels spells and effects which can tell you what someone is.
It's a spell with somatic and verbal components, most people will not act favourably to a caster randomly starting to do somatic and verbal casting in their presence without explanation.

Besides, most characters are going to be pretty sure of what they are, and aren't going to care about the reality. The point is made in many APs where pointing out an NPC's alignment via detection spells will just be met with outright denial or even accusations of falsehood against the caster.
Conquer the world for good with this one easy trick! Chaotic Evils hate him!

So either everyone in the universe is too dumb to perform a simple background check or it runs on cartoon logic. And you know, fair enough, it doesn't make it terrible but it would be nice if alignments weren't dumb. I wish someone would make a game/story that takes their philosophical/metaphysical implications seriously* instead of just having it as an excuse for why it's ok to murder bandits/orcs/cultists.

* PS:T is the closest one I can think of, as it tangentially features things like the blood war, limbo and mechanus(or whatever the plane of pure law is called) but it's still pretty weaksauce.
 

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