Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Grunker]

The fuck do I care that Bad Thing was also advertised as bad

 

[ArchAngel]

I think this DLCs ship navigation minigame is a prototype for their 40K game.
Wii there be Mythic levels in this DLC or good'ol fashined "normal" levelling?

Advertisement blurb says there will by Mythics. I would not buy it if there was not any. In that case we might as well play Kingmaker dungeon.

 

[RunningWolf]

What do you guys think about Scald MC? It seems to be not popular.
Looks very good early game due to giving pets a bite and two claw attacks. You also rack up quite a lot of personal xp with thousands of knowledge and lore checks in game.
Great mid game with pounce on everyone. With mirror image, displacement and greater invis you're decently safe, even if you cant tank for shit.
And silly late on Trickster or Trickster->Legend(critting Skald on a horse with Gendarme capstone for example). Partywide permahaste at 20 is comfy too.

Why no Skald MC?

 

[Yosharian]

Skald is best as a support build.

The ultimate MC supports are Legend BFT or Alchemist

 

[RunningWolf]

What does BFT gives you before it goes legend tho? +2 enhancement to stat is measly compared to +3 attacks on every animal companion, a bite on everyone else, pounce, scaling stacking natural armor/competence ab bonus, as well as addition source of AoO from crits... And i didn't even mention inspire rage itself.
BFT is great, but act 1-2 its poop. Early game you need to ooga booga through Kenabres and Drezen. And it what Skald excels at. I like my MC to be strong as early as possible.

If you think about Skald in terms of all those additional attacks and bonuses he gives not as the damage of his companions, but as his personal damage, Skald a single most damaging class early game, given the right party. Just 2 animal companions combined get 6 attacks from him.

 

[Yosharian]

BFT gives your allies up to 40 BAB when you go Legend

Companion Skald can do more or less the same as an MC Skald, not a great class for an MC

Of course anything can work, we are just talking what's optimal

Don't forget that a BFT can also give allies stuff like Frightful Aspect, Ice Body, Echolocation, and many other useful spells

 

[Delterius]

My problem with Tenebrous Depths is that it felt like a sideshow completely apart from the main storyline. The Midnight Isles one might tie into Nocticula and stuff.

 

[RunningWolf]

when you go Legend

I remind you that its mythic rank 8. Most of the game is over at that point. All of the hard content especially. Not my cup of tea.

 

[The_Mask]

+ very low level adventure...

The adventure is fine.
Also... the one time they should not be apologizing, they are: those physical rewards issues are not something they could've foreseen. lol

 

[Delterius]

I remind you that its mythic rank 8. Most of the game is over at that point. All of the hard content especially. Not my cup of tea.

Yeah I kinda hate late game builds. I want my mythic experience to be online by rank 4. 7 is already super late imo.

 

[Yosharian]

when you go Legend

I remind you that its mythic rank 8. Most of the game is over at that point. All of the hard content especially. Not my cup of tea.

Yes, I know that. A BFT is still a 9th-level caster. A Vivisectionist is still an extremely good support/damage dealer/tank hybrid.

These classes have a lot more to offer than just their Legend gimmicks.

Skald is just a support Bardbarian. It's 'fine' but hardly on the level of these two other classes. And you gain very little from using the class for your MC. Just make Seelah into one.

Or do whatever the fuck you want! I am just talking from an optimization perspective

 

[Yosharian]

Vanilla, no exploits, no Dragonkind III. Was posted in Discord

Spoiler

Note that Onslaught is 1-round only ability so this figure is a little misleading, but mostly its legit.

If you took Profane Ascension (Nocticula's gift) you could get an additional +2 without having to use the head slot for Shy Lily's Helmet.

 

[Cyberarmy]

one might tie into Nocticula

 

[Cyberarmy]

Vanilla, no exploits, no Dragonkind III. Was posted in Discord

Did you level as Vivi+Cross or respeced after being a legend?

 

[Yosharian]

Vanilla, no exploits, no Dragonkind III. Was posted in Discord

Did you level as Vivi+Cross or respeced after being a legend?

No idea, not my build

 

[RunningWolf]

Another advantage of the Skald is that unlike in PnP you have total control on the builds and number of melees in the party. Its makes much more sense to create a party around Skald MC instead of Skald merc.

There's no single class feature in this game that can give you the damage equivalent of 9 attacks you will get from 3 buffed animal companions each round every round, for example. Especially if you go all in on AoO and crit, which is perfect for Skald. Barbarian or cant even dream of it.

 

[Popiel]

I'm starting yet another attempt at this game, at best I managed to crawl up to Drezen before dropping out of boredom. I noticed that they have added a fuckton of voice acting, I wonder what the fuck for, considering that most of the text clearly wasn't written with VA in mind (I die of cringe every second or third brilliant word-spasm). I'm rolling with a paladin, let's see how this goes.

 

[Lagole Gon]

I've decided to return to the game after a rather long break break. I'm almost at the finale, I want to finish it.
Welp. Crusade management events are missing descriptions and Wenduag's wolf is only running sideways.
We're off to a good start.

 

[Vermillion]

I've decided to return to the game after a rather long break break. I'm almost at the finale, I want to finish it.
Welp. Crusade management events are missing descriptions and Wenduag's wolf is only running sideways.
We're off to a good start.

Small Cypress company, please understand.

 

[Grunker]

no way there's gonna be a 'season 2 pass' worth of dlcs between august 11th and september 29th right

so uh.. the enhanced edition ain't gonna be the final version of the game

Looks like I’ll have to postpone my run once again, lol.

Any details about what the enhanced edition will entail? Will they actually fix Mythic paths and such? There are suspiciously few details about it in the release notes.

 

[Yosharian]

I'm amazed any of you think the game is in a state where you should start playing it yet

 

[Delterius]

Any details about what the enhanced edition will entail? Will they actually fix Mythic paths and such? There are suspiciously few details about it in the release notes.

The only thing I read about is more content for late game paths. I'm hoping there's some mechanical overhauls for every path the way they did it for Aeon, but I think it might be mostly QoL and content.

 

[Iskramor]

It will never get fixed just like kingmaker.Retards at IGN were accidentally right game feels and play like very bad DM.Negative levels drain blindness and stat damage against 3 lvl party nice.

 

[Nirvash]

I legit had to restart kingmaker 2 times waiting updates due to broken mid-late game.

Is WOTR safe to play now? Oh god this is MELTING my mid range pc, HOW.
This summer is fucking hell, i can't play shit.

 

[Yosharian]

Kingmaker is pretty good now

Although fuck me the game is long, and they Kingdom Management is horrible