Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Gangrelrumbler]

Is Aeon really worth it for a melee char? I'm split between Azata and Aeon. The first one gives me ton of useful abilities but writing of their main quest feel really cringeworthy. Aeon doesn't seem that interesting stat-wise but the questline seems decent.

 

[The_Mask]

Is Aeon really worth it

The answer to this is always "Yes", no matter what you have to say after it.

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[Stoned Ape]

Have to say, I'm not enjoying chapter 5 as much as I have the previous chapters, at least so far.

I think it's partially due to running into areas that don't feel as polished as the previous areas (had a couple of quest breaking bugs off the main path), partly due to having to do another crusade (when I've pretty much worked out how to exploit the mechanics so now it's just a tedious steamroll), partly due to me not really enjoying really high level DnD/Pathfinder content, and partly my MC having less options to do fun stuff now he's on the Gold Dragon Path.

Managed to get two of the fetch quest objects for that now, but have no idea how to get to

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Baphomet's Inelutable Prison

so I can't find the last one.

Not sure if that is reliant on me progressing the main quest or not, but I'm reluctant to do that because the more of the game's main quest I play, the less fun I'll get to have with new Mythic path stuff.

Already messed up that once by not getting Mythic Tier 4 until I was around character level 13 or 14.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

More Ember-related wholesome dialogue:

 

[Fedora Master]

jUsT uSE mAgIC dUDe

 

[Saark]

Fine? It’s awful. You’ve got better things to be doing in that slot by then.

Please educate me on what caster-based weapon you are referring to, that allows me to spit out more than 150 dmg on each enemy each turn. I guess somehow in your world clearing entire rooms worth of enemies in a single cast is trash, but I'm starting to think youre just full of shit and enjoy sitting in here shitting on everybody else for "awful" builds.

 

[Stoned Ape]

Is Aeon really worth it for a melee char? I'm split between Azata and Aeon. The first one gives me ton of useful abilities but writing of their main quest feel really cringeworthy. Aeon doesn't seem that interesting stat-wise but the questline seems decent.

Aeon's got some great stuff to play with. It has a ton of useful immunities, some great buffs/debuffs, it can use bane, and the spell list is very useful for a melee character, too.

 

[Desiderius]

Fine? It’s awful. You’ve got better things to be doing in that slot by then.

Please educate me on what caster-based weapon you are referring to, that allows me to spit out more than 150 dmg on each enemy each turn. Apparently in your world thats awful, but I'm starting to think youre just full of shit and enjoy sitting in here shitting on everybody else for "awful" builds.

The one it’s hard to miss in Ivory Labyrinth for starters. You should already have all kinds of ways to maximize and empower spells if you want to be nuking. Otherwise it’s going to be a long slog.

Good to hear that you’re starting to think. That’s half the battle. I’m not ragging on you guys to be a dick I’m ragging on you because you’re beclowning yourselves when you talk about the game being broken and your examples are barely playable.

When people restrict themselves to four or five meme classes that destroy the progression of the classes they chose to play in the first place that is awful.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I thought I would get some XP for listening to Anevia's life story. Sadly, no.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

listening to Anevia's life story

Isn't it reward enough? (/s)

 

[Desiderius]

Is Aeon really worth it for a melee char? I'm split between Azata and Aeon. The first one gives me ton of useful abilities but writing of their main quest feel really cringeworthy. Aeon doesn't seem that interesting stat-wise but the questline seems decent.

Aeon's got some great stuff to play with. It has a ton of useful immunities, some great buffs/debuffs, it can use bane, and the spell list is very useful for a melee character, too.

Yeah depends on what rest of party is doing but Aeon is great for fighters with Divine Favor/Power and all its Swift Spells (the Bane has Dispel, Greater on it with Char level + mythic lvl on the check) and Azata great for casters.

 

[The_Mask]

You think the Aeon theme is what plays in Mechanus? I like to think Nordom misses hearing this every second.

 

[AwesomeButton]

listening to Anevia's life story

Isn't it reward enough? (/s)

Next I spoke to the quartermaster, Garms. When I asked him to tell him about himself, I was almost disappointed he didn't turn out to be a disguised tranny.

 

[Stoned Ape]

Okay, all my negativity aside: Build experts! Desiderius! I want to go Necro path (Restarted from my Alchemist due to the new patch) with something like an Eldritch Knight build - Think Blackguard from DnD or PF Magus with more necro powers. What do you suggest? Bonus points if its flavorful.

You can easily go for a Sorcerer 6/Hell Knight Signifer 4/Eldritch Knight 10.

Human

STR 14, DEX 12, CON 14, INT 10, WIS 10, CHA 19 (or go for a Sage Sorcerer and get INT 19 and just grab necromancy spells instead of going for the undead bloodline)

Pick up Martial Weapons Prof and Arcane Armour Training at 1st level, and grab one of the warrior backgrounds for free light armour proficiency.

 

[Rieser]

I thought I would get some XP for listening to Anevia's life story. Sadly, no.

If only there was a way to track if you actually read it or not, because that sort of trial surely merits a reward.

 

[Desiderius]

I thought I would get some XP for listening to Anevia's life story. Sadly, no.

If only there was a way to track if you actually read it or not, because that sort of trial surely merits a reward.

That’s how the books work. You have to read from inventory.

 

[Saark]

Good to hear that you’re starting to think. That’s half the battle. I’m not ragging on you guys to be a dick I’m ragging on you because you’re beclowning yourselves when you talk about the game being broken and your examples are barely playable.

Well, I guess it's hard to take advice when it comes from someone who 10 pages ago wasn't even aware that True Sight ignored Illusion Concealment effects, despite it being stated in the tooltip. I guess reading isn't a skill being taught in that "Being a cunt on the internet" 101 course you seem to be taking.

But hey, good job for suggesting an item that "I shouldve gotten long ago" when the one I posted is accessible way before even setting foot into the Ivory Sanctum. Really shows how much you actually know.

 

[Cryomancer]

Meredoth in chapter 5 , do you know where is ciar ? supposed to be in the streets and he's no longer there anymore. it seems the quest is important for lich path, after upgrading the ziggurat , says to get rid of unruly advisors.

I'm sorry but I can't help you. I din't liked lich transformation and was more than satisfied with my current strength and decided to not undergo the transformation. because I treasure immersion a lot and a bloodless undead using blood infusions from Cruoromancer makes no sense IMO. So I can't help you. BTW, if you refuse to get rid of material possessions and the pleasures, Zacarius will be really pissed off and I liked it.

I will try to make a good lich only to see how things go.

 

[Ghulgothas]

Meredoth in chapter 5 , do you know where is ciar ? supposed to be in the streets and he's no longer there anymore. it seems the quest is important for lich path, after upgrading the ziggurat , says to get rid of unruly advisors.

If you're in Chapter 5 it's too late. The only way to get him as your third Graveguard is to do it before you head off to the Midnight Fane late in Chapter 3.

The requirements for getting the fourth one is also kinda fucky. Not certain of all the ways, but I think you have to get captured on the way to the final dungeon of Chapter 4 for him to show up.

 

[Desiderius]

Good to hear that you’re starting to think. That’s half the battle. I’m not ragging on you guys to be a dick I’m ragging on you because you’re beclowning yourselves when you talk about the game being broken and your examples are barely playable.

Well, I guess it's hard to take advice when it comes from someone who 10 pages ago wasn't even aware that True Sight ignored Illusion Concealment effects, despite it being stated in the tooltip. I guess reading isn't a skill being taught in that "Being a cunt on the internet" 101 course you seem to be taking.

But hey, good job for suggesting an item that "I shouldve gotten long ago" when the one I posted is accessible way before even setting foot into the Ivory Sanctum. Really shows how much you actually know.

You’ve got me confused with someone else.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Is there any way to open this door in Horgus' manor?

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[Saark]

I'm actually pretty stoked about the Crusade Management (although worried that it will be too faceroll). Way better than any of the test versions.

As for Blightmaw I recommend this:

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This was actually second hit - true seeing ignoring Images? Bad luck? anyway first damage I'd taken in awhile.

Guess this isn't you then, my bad. Must've confused you with someone else.

But in case you havent noticed yet, yes, Trueesight does ignore Concealment. You can usually dispell it off, though, so Blur+Displacement continue being very good, and its not like most enemies actually have Truesight. Blightmaw just happens to be the first one you run into.

As for myself, I'm currently in the Ivory Sanctum, and Plague of Madness is hard carrying me, same as it did in Blackwater. I'm not sure what ways youre referring to when youre talking about maximizing Lv6 and 7 spells, as Greater Maximize/Empower rods are not on the vendor list yet, I haven't come across any, and even if they were they'd be very limited.

 

[Mortmal]

Meredoth in chapter 5 , do you know where is ciar ? supposed to be in the streets and he's no longer there anymore. it seems the quest is important for lich path, after upgrading the ziggurat , says to get rid of unruly advisors.

If you're in Chapter 5 it's too late. The only way to get him as your third Graveguard is to do it before you head off to the Midnight Fane late in Chapter 3.

The requirements for getting the fourth one is also kinda fucky. Not certain of all the ways, but I think you have to get captured on the way to the final dungeon of Chapter 4 for him to show up.

So , i finally start the lich ritual , the conversation is bugged and after insisting several time the option to start ritual appears . While doing the ritual , sacrifice a "love interest" that wasnt even alive nor in party then ciar (?!) and crusaders spawn, 3 mythic demons, priestress of death +crusaders . I can no longer control my main character . Now the fight is impossible , It shows how hard my necromancer was carrying the team. Worse , once downed the enemies come back to life, its bugged. I had to run toward the bottom room and rekill them for the quest to finally complete.
Lich gets a massive +16 int modifier now , but still getting exhausted.
Then later i see ciar is alive but in izz and act as if nothing happen.
I am probably missing stuff its bugged on so many levels i cant list them all.

 

[Desiderius]

That’s true there’s a window where it would be tough. Don’t miss the staff in the middle room.

 

[Desiderius]

Is there any way to open this door in Horgus' manor?

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Ive heard there is eventually, but you can DDoor fine.