Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Ramnozack]

Starting over, I want to go Lich (preferable a martial/caster hybrid.).

Any recommendations for a Lich Martial hybrid class?

Wizard 5 / Trad Monk 1 / Hell Knight Signifer 3 / Eldritch Knight 10 / Loremaster 1. Ends at caster level 28, gets 16 bab with 6 attacks while hasted 3 at full BAB. Feel like I made this post before

Isn't that BAB 15? +2 Wizard, +1 Monk, +2 Signifer, +10 Eldritch Knight.

Could just drop the loremaster and get a 6th level of Wizard or Signifer for +1 BAB.

Alternatively, go for Sage Sorcerer 6 rather than Wizard for spontaneous casting.

You are forgetting the loremaster 1. Loremaster 1 + Wizard 5 = 3 BAB

 

[Shadenuat]

I'd just go 20 Mutation Warrior Fighter.

A legend build 20 mutation warrior + swordsaint ?

You can add another 20 levels of any class and you're adding a fighter to a 20 sword saint?
...why?

 

[Zayne]

Fuck you, Camellia!

Spoiler

I really, really didn't want to lose her and was willing to tolerate her shit as long as she obeyed.
Also I kinda hoped for redemption arc, like Jaethal's, but no, batshit crazy Cammy doesn't want a redemption arc, she just wants to bathe in blood.

Well, I'm down a secondary tank/buffer now. Sosiel, I guess...

 

[ga♥]

So, I had two quivers, and they disapperead from my stash and from my chars quick slots... anyone had it happen?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Goatfag btfo.

Minor story spoiler & Devil path reactivity

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

More of my impressions of chapter V:

Spoiler

What the hell did they do to my prison?! I've all the cells were full when I left, now it's fucking empty. Being a time janny is suffering

 

[Shadenuat]

Fuck you, Camellia!

Spoiler

I really, really didn't want to lose her and was willing to tolerate her shit as long as she obeyed.
Also I kinda hoped for redemption arc, like Jaethal's, but no, batshit crazy Cammy doesn't want a redemption arc, she just wants to bathe in blood.

Well, I'm down a secondary tank/buffer now. Sosiel, I guess...

She sucks. But I don't think not having a "redemption" arc for a character like her is some sort of a crime. Did Korgan have redemption arc? Especially since you what, play my little pony Azata?

She has a specific meta use in the game, and she is good at that.

Spoiler

To be turned into sacrifice when you become Lich.

 

[Takamori]

Fuck you, Camellia!

Spoiler

I really, really didn't want to lose her and was willing to tolerate her shit as long as she obeyed.
Also I kinda hoped for redemption arc, like Jaethal's, but no, batshit crazy Cammy doesn't want a redemption arc, she just wants to bathe in blood.

Well, I'm down a secondary tank/buffer now. Sosiel, I guess...

Spoiler

Should had put her down on the first murder case

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Fuck you, Camellia!

Spoiler

I really, really didn't want to lose her and was willing to tolerate her shit as long as she obeyed.
Also I kinda hoped for redemption arc, like Jaethal's, but no, batshit crazy Cammy doesn't want a redemption arc, she just wants to bathe in blood.

Well, I'm down a secondary tank/buffer now. Sosiel, I guess...

Sosiel and his amazing 10 dex.

 

[Stoned Ape]

Purely speculative question: assuming I'd go for a late game "Legend" character, how would you build one starting from a pure 20-levels DEX/Dueling Sword Sword Saint?
I was assuming 10 levels in duelist as they seem to synergize well enough, but not sure what to to do with the remaining ten levels.

I'd just go 20 Mutation Warrior Fighter.

Feral Grand Mutagen + weapon training heavy blades + an additional crit multiplier at level 20 would make a sword saint absolutely bonkers. Fighter can even get a weapon training feat to let you dual wield dueling swords as light weapons if you want it.

A legend build 20 mutation warrior + swordsaint ?

Sword Saint to 20 then MW to 20 as Legend.

As a DEX Sword Saint focusing on Dueling Sword I think it's the best melee option. MW is strong initially then gets better and better until it hits level 20. Think it gives Sword Saint more than Duelist 10/whatever else 10.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Based Lich boomer.

 

[Mortmal]

Purely speculative question: assuming I'd go for a late game "Legend" character, how would you build one starting from a pure 20-levels DEX/Dueling Sword Sword Saint?
I was assuming 10 levels in duelist as they seem to synergize well enough, but not sure what to to do with the remaining ten levels.

I'd just go 20 Mutation Warrior Fighter.

Feral Grand Mutagen + weapon training heavy blades + an additional crit multiplier at level 20 would make a sword saint absolutely bonkers. Fighter can even get a weapon training feat to let you dual wield dueling swords as light weapons if you want it.

A legend build 20 mutation warrior + swordsaint ?

Sword Saint to 20 then MW to 20 as Legend.

As a DEX Sword Saint focusing on Dueling Sword I think it's the best melee option. MW is strong initially then gets better and better until it hits level 20. Think it gives Sword Saint more than Duelist 10/whatever else 10.

Best tanking option with dexterity yes , but for damage go strengh. Mw is a good choice for any melee build . You need to hit over 55 60 ac at the end and like 38 flatfooted. So 40 levels of those will certainly achieve that.

 

[Sharpedge]

Purely speculative question: assuming I'd go for a late game "Legend" character, how would you build one starting from a pure 20-levels DEX/Dueling Sword Sword Saint?
I was assuming 10 levels in duelist as they seem to synergize well enough, but not sure what to to do with the remaining ten levels.

I'd just go 20 Mutation Warrior Fighter.

Feral Grand Mutagen + weapon training heavy blades + an additional crit multiplier at level 20 would make a sword saint absolutely bonkers. Fighter can even get a weapon training feat to let you dual wield dueling swords as light weapons if you want it.

A legend build 20 mutation warrior + swordsaint ?

Sword Saint to 20 then MW to 20 as Legend.

As a DEX Sword Saint focusing on Dueling Sword I think it's the best melee option. MW is strong initially then gets better and better until it hits level 20. Think it gives Sword Saint more than Duelist 10/whatever else 10.

Best tanking option with dexterity yes , but for damage go strengh. Mw is a good choice for any melee build . You need to hit over 55 60 ac at the end and like 38 flatfooted. So 40 levels of those will certainly achieve that.

If you are playing on Unfair you need closer to 100 AC if you want to not get absolutely deleted by enemies.

 

[PrK]

Ok, found a broken combo that only works in TB mode, enduring spells + cave fangs. After casting the spell (24h duration) calling down the stalagmites/stalactites is a free action, so you can do 144 casts in a single turn...

Just take care if you're casting the stalagmites:

Spoiler

Woljif with Last Stand, my PC froze for a few seconds after he stepped over the gazillion spike stones...

 

[Mortmal]

Purely speculative question: assuming I'd go for a late game "Legend" character, how would you build one starting from a pure 20-levels DEX/Dueling Sword Sword Saint?
I was assuming 10 levels in duelist as they seem to synergize well enough, but not sure what to to do with the remaining ten levels.

I'd just go 20 Mutation Warrior Fighter.

Feral Grand Mutagen + weapon training heavy blades + an additional crit multiplier at level 20 would make a sword saint absolutely bonkers. Fighter can even get a weapon training feat to let you dual wield dueling swords as light weapons if you want it.

A legend build 20 mutation warrior + swordsaint ?

Sword Saint to 20 then MW to 20 as Legend.

As a DEX Sword Saint focusing on Dueling Sword I think it's the best melee option. MW is strong initially then gets better and better until it hits level 20. Think it gives Sword Saint more than Duelist 10/whatever else 10.

Best tanking option with dexterity yes , but for damage go strengh. Mw is a good choice for any melee build . You need to hit over 55 60 ac at the end and like 38 flatfooted. So 40 levels of those will certainly achieve that.

If you are playing on Unfair you need closer to 100 AC if you want to not get absolutely deleted by enemies.

Oh but we are casual players playing on core 80 ac will be enough...

 

[Reinhardt]

Nigga's brother decided to do grorious last stand instead of joining me.

 

[NJClaw]

So apparently this Eustoyriax guy is so important that he deserves to be a named enemy. I guess he will surprise me with some clever use of his special abilities:

Oh, Owlcat, come on...

Well, I guess that using your Glitterdust to only blind yourself IS kinda surprising. Good job.

 

[PrK]

Ok, found a broken combo that only works in TB mode, enduring spells + cave fangs. After casting the spell (24h duration) calling down the stalagmites/stalactites is a free action, so you can do 144 casts in a single turn...

Just take care if you're casting the stalagmites:

Spoiler

Woljif with Last Stand, my PC froze for a few seconds after he stepped over the gazillion spike stones...

In fact take really good care because I just misclicked with my MC and he evaporated after a small freeze..

 

[Efe]

what were your choices?
I onyl half did his quest and it failed, still got him to join. you still had trever's shield?

 

[Sharpedge]

So apparently this Eustoyriax guy is so important that he deserves to be a named enemy. I guess he will surprise me with some clever use of his special abilities:

Oh, Owlcat, come on...

Well, I guess that using your Glitterdust to only blind yourself IS kinda surprising. Good job.

During the beta I tried the lich mythic path, you see some really facepalm quality stuff there. Enemies will attack you with negative energy repeatedly, giving you free heals.

 

[Shadenuat]

During the beta I tried the lich mythic path, you see some really facepalm quality stuff there. Enemies will attack you with negative energy repeatedly, giving you free heals.

Foolish mortals.

 

[Herumor]

So I loved played a Hellknight - wasn't really expecting all that much reactivity from the game about a multi-class choice, but it's fucking glorious. How much reactivity does the Devil path have given that it comes so late in the game? They really should have made it accessible early on, like the other mythics.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

So I loved played a Hellknight - wasn't really expecting all that much reactivity from the game about a multi-class choice, but it's fucking glorious. How much reactivity does the Devil path have given that it comes so late in the game? They really should have made it accessible early on, like the other mythics.

A decent amount thus far, but I wish that the companions would've reacted to it. Maybe later on, who knows.

 

[Reinhardt]

what were your choices?
I onyl half did his quest and it failed, still got him to join. you still had trever's shield?

Blocked with shield to wake him, said onii-sama is real hero, onii-sama went full hero.

 

[frajaq]

So I loved played a Hellknight - wasn't really expecting all that much reactivity from the game about a multi-class choice, but it's fucking glorious. How much reactivity does the Devil path have given that it comes so late in the game? They really should have made it accessible early on, like the other mythics.

the reactivity to Hellknight was indeed a nice touch, too bad there isn't much for other classes