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[volklore]

There is a "Cave" exit visible at the north-west corner of the Lost Chapel map. You can see it only if you get very near to the precipice and turn the camera to and fro. It's at the very bottom, hidden from sight usually. I don't know how to access it, the cave from the north-east didn't lead to it, neither did any "athletics points" nor the main dungeon. Any advice please? Duck-duck is silent on this (google is for people who think Diablo is a milestone in the RPG, so I must refuse to use it). I've searched for two hours already

Maybe dimension door ? I saw this entrance yesterday too.

 

[Shadenuat]

So the extra abilities and damage of these exploits depend on charisma, my casting stat is int, to land them I need dex since they're touch attacks. And I only get 1 feat so no Precise.

Maybe I should memorise stone fist and make my gnome just slap things with his little noodles arms in melee, or simply run away with extra gnome background speed.

I am not memorising grease on an illustion racial kit, game.

 

[Nikanuur]

There is a "Cave" exit visible at the north-west corner of the Lost Chapel map. You can see it only if you get very near to the precipice and turn the camera to and fro. It's at the very bottom, hidden from sight usually. I don't know how to access it, the cave from the north-east didn't lead to it, neither did any "athletics points" nor the main dungeon. Any advice please? Duck-duck is silent on this (google is for people who think Diablo is a milestone in the RPG, so I must refuse to use it). I've searched for two hours already

Maybe dimension door ? I saw this entrance yesterday too.

I am not near this level of spells, but a good advice, thanks! I'll try that later.

 

[volklore]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome but casting stat is int... Kinda wastes the whole illusion DC racial since another race would be able to start with higher int.
2) Arcanist pays for low feats number with exploits but you need cha to expand arcane pool and number of consumes per day and you need dex to land them
3)Illusion is shit until 4th level spells and you don't really have the feats for conjuration spell focus into expanded arsenal illusion (and yeah grease/glitterdust on an illusionist sucks ass)

That said being able to persistent illusion spells from lvl 11 on the spot with arcane pool is juicy as hell, it just seems pita to get that character there without early game conjuration package.

 

[Cryomancer]

"city where everything is epic level lich and even their servants are epic level liches!" is fucking boring. Congrats, owlcat, you magnificent bastards! You achieved impossible!

Already said hundreds of pages ago that ch 5 is too bloated even for me. I honestly was expecting a adventure like nwn: Hordes of the Underdark, where a monarch of the lower planes will be the main antagonist and only at very end after questing a lot, you will have a chance to face him and got a game where you see dozens of Godlike beings everywhere. I like high level stuff, but this game took it too far.

Sadly, enemies only does interesting stuff in beginning, like a ch1 conjurer using invisibility and spamming summon monsters but late game bosses never do something smart like it(eg - use a rod of greater quicken metamagic to cast disjunction in the PCs and then, CC the party). They are just mindless enemies with bloated stats mindless charging in your front lines. The first time that you see a skyscraper sized demon, is cool but the 666th time isn't.

Anyway, now that OwlCat adapted the "pathfinder's throne of the bloostone", their next game will gonna be less epic. BTW, most Adventure Paths aren't that high level. Skull & shakles only reaches high level(13+) on the very last book and 4 of the 6 books are bellow lv 10. IT is not a lv 1 to 10 adventure like you would prefer, but I'm pretty sure that you will like more any AP which OwlCat adapts next.

And lets pray, so Paizo will not act like Woketards and force OwlCat to "promote the current edition". After making a huge success by not following 4E trends, Paizo decide to .... Make bizarre admixture of 4E and 5E...

Illusion is shit until 4th level spells

No, are not. Displacement is a amazing buff which essentially doubles the amont of hits which your front line fighters can soak. Mirror image is a amazing defensive spell. Vrocks uses it a lot in this game... You just lack offensive spells. And the point of illusionism is not to be a pyromaniac evoker. IS to do illusion.

And as a low level mage, buffing party members > dealing damage. Even at mid level, you are more useful buffing.

 

[ArchAngel]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome but casting stat is int... Kinda wastes the whole illusion DC racial since another race would be able to start with higher int.
2) Arcanist pays for low feats number with exploits but you need cha to expand arcane pool and number of consumes per day and you need dex to land them
3)Illusion is shit until 4th level spells and you don't really have the feats for conjuration spell focus into expanded arsenal illusion (and yeah grease/glitterdust on an illusionist sucks ass)

That said being able to persistent illusion spells from lvl 11 on the spot with arcane pool is juicy as hell, it just seems pita to get that character there without early game conjuration package.

Their spells don't work on Undead. Undead are second most common enemy after Demons. At least with Necro you can pick Mythic ability that lets you ignore enemy immunity to Negative energy, Illusionist has nothing.
It is why the only pure mage companion you get, in my party she is using fire spells with Mythic ability to ignore Fire Immunity instead of her specialization of Illusion.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

There is a "Cave" exit visible at the north-west corner of the Lost Chapel map. You can see it only if you get very near to the precipice and turn the camera to and fro. It's at the very bottom, hidden from sight usually. I don't know how to access it, the cave from the north-east didn't lead to it, neither did any "athletics points" nor the main dungeon. Any advice please? Duck-duck is silent on this (google is for people who think Diablo is a milestone in the RPG, so I must refuse to use it). I've searched for two hours already

I don't see any cave entrance in the north west corner, just some low ground you can get to via an Athletics check.

 

[volklore]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome but casting stat is int... Kinda wastes the whole illusion DC racial since another race would be able to start with higher int.
2) Arcanist pays for low feats number with exploits but you need cha to expand arcane pool and number of consumes per day and you need dex to land them
3)Illusion is shit until 4th level spells and you don't really have the feats for conjuration spell focus into expanded arsenal illusion (and yeah grease/glitterdust on an illusionist sucks ass)

That said being able to persistent illusion spells from lvl 11 on the spot with arcane pool is juicy as hell, it just seems pita to get that character there without early game conjuration package.

Their spells don't work on Undead. Undead are second most common enemy after Demons. At least with Necro you can pick Mythic ability that lets you ignore enemy immunity to Negative energy, Illusionist has nothing.

Arcanist is still a full spellcaster, you can use other schools. My point is if you wanna go for illusions it might be better to make an arcane sorc and be more flexible and have more feats

 

[Parabalus]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome but casting stat is int... Kinda wastes the whole illusion DC racial since another race would be able to start with higher int.
2) Arcanist pays for low feats number with exploits but you need cha to expand arcane pool and number of consumes per day and you need dex to land them
3)Illusion is shit until 4th level spells and you don't really have the feats for conjuration spell focus into expanded arsenal illusion (and yeah grease/glitterdust on an illusionist sucks ass)

That said being able to persistent illusion spells from lvl 11 on the spot with arcane pool is juicy as hell, it just seems pita to get that character there without early game conjuration package.

Their spells don't work on Undead. Undead are second most common enemy after Demons. At least with Necro you can pick Mythic ability that lets you ignore enemy immunity to Negative energy, Illusionist has nothing.
It is why the only pure mage companion you get, in my party she is using fire spells with Mythic ability to ignore Fire Immunity instead of her specialization of Illusion.

You can have Daeran or Ember fire nuke much better than Nenio could, her CC and instadeath spells are invaluable vs the demons.

 

[volklore]

I mean all you need vs undead for CC is heightened shit targetting will or reflex like glitterdust and grease. Also not sure but a dip into sorc (UD bloodline) or just play arcane sorc and take second bloodline mythic feat for undead bloodline makes a lot of illusion spells work on undead.

 

[gurugeorge]

There is a "Cave" exit visible at the north-west corner of the Lost Chapel map. You can see it only if you get very near to the precipice and turn the camera to and fro. It's at the very bottom, hidden from sight usually. I don't know how to access it, the cave from the north-east didn't lead to it, neither did any "athletics points" nor the main dungeon. Any advice please? Duck-duck is silent on this (google is for people who think Diablo is a milestone in the RPG, so I must refuse to use it). I've searched for two hours already

Hmm, I only know about two cave entrances, the one NE on the ground and the one that looks like a well on the mountain to the NW of that (but not NW on the map as a whole, it's still in the eastern half of the map). The one on the mountain is an exit from inside the cave that's accessed via the NE ground entrance. The way from inside the cave to the exit on the mountainside is easy to miss though (it's a ladder uncovered by clicking on a hand). Are you saying there's another cave entrance other than those two?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You fookin weeb...

Yes, I am.

 

[Shadenuat]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome

We have an equivalent of iceplant and are very smoll, dexterious and cute, and cast arcane spells. I am thinking into this direction atm.

Maybe try Acid first, but I don't even want to invest into shooty feats because I am not interested in rays anyway. And Unfair monsters even when flat footed have good ac.

 

[volklore]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome

We have an equivalent of iceplant and are very smoll, dexterious and cute, and cast arcane spells. I am thinking into this direction atm.

How can you even play gnome when you can't even be the coolest gnome in the party? Better murder regill so you don't have to walk in his shadow...
I mean look at his stare, that's what a gnome illusionist is supposed to look like. Killing you with a stare that makes you see all your relatives die a horrible death. But no, dnd illusion magic is chaotic gnomes playing with rainbows and butterflies ;_;

 

[ArchAngel]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome

We have an equivalent of iceplant and are very smoll, dexterious and cute, and cast arcane spells. I am thinking into this direction atm.

How can you even play gnome when you can't even be the coolest gnome in the party? Better murder regill so you don't have to walk in his shadow...
I mean look at his stare, that's what a gnome illusionist is supposed to look like. Killing you with a stare that makes you want to commit. But no dnd illusion magic is chaotic gnomes playing with rainbows and butterflies ;_;

What do you mean party?! He is coolest gnome of any cRPG so far.

 

[ga♥]

arcane bloodline sorcerer gnome raped Kingmaker, sadly here maybe something evoker/conjurer could be better.

 

[ga♥]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome

We have an equivalent of iceplant and are very smoll, dexterious and cute, and cast arcane spells. I am thinking into this direction atm.

How can you even play gnome when you can't even be the coolest gnome in the party? Better murder regill so you don't have to walk in his shadow...
I mean look at his stare, that's what a gnome illusionist is supposed to look like. Killing you with a stare that makes you want to commit. But no dnd illusion magic is chaotic gnomes playing with rainbows and butterflies ;_;

What do you mean party?! He is coolest gnome of any cRPG so far.

Jan Janssen is still the best.

 

[volklore]

arcane bloodline sorcerer gnome raped Kingmaker, sadly here maybe something evoker/conjurer could be better.

Feys were super problematic for mind affecting too. Conjuration was by far the best school for KM, fey were getting rekt by heightened cloudkill/stinking

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome

We have an equivalent of iceplant and are very smoll, dexterious and cute, and cast arcane spells. I am thinking into this direction atm.

So you would frontline early on ? Hmm not a bad idea actually.

 

[ga♥]

Weird fully stacked (great dreamer smile, ring of circumstances, maya's charm, etc etc) completely anhilated the Wild Hunt.

 

[ArchAngel]

Lich options in Act 3 so far are exciting. I went to that Temple of Erastil and found the

Spoiler

underground tomb and turned that priestess to my undead slave LOL. So far I got no way to use her, I hope there is a fun way to.

Also after the battle at end of Act 2

Spoiler

where I killed that traitor dwarf I got asked in Act 3 what I want to do with his body and I told them to leave it there, I got special plans for it lol. I hope this is how you get him to become your undead companion.

Also the new councilor that joins you

Spoiler

your Lich master

, I am sure he will have fun ways to make the story interesting.

 

[Reinhardt]

coolest gnome

Really LOW bar to clear. BAWHAHAHA

 

[Lhynn]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

While it is late to answer this. Go ahead and make a charge build, then "stick with it" for the rest of the playthrough. You will hate these motherfuckers by the 50 hour mark.

 

[Reinhardt]

Char roll with it vs virgin respecer.

I'm not usually edgy, but I think I'm on the same camp here. I can't understand respecs. If you made a decision in your char build, stick with it, and see what happens.

While it is late to answer this. Go ahead and make a charge build, then "stick with it" for the rest of the playthrough. You will hate these motherfuckers by the 50 hour mark.

I just learned not to charge like young overeager bull and just walk like old wise one - "мы сейчас спокойно спустимся и выебем всё стадо"

 

[Ruchy]

I wanted to play phantasmal mage because illusionists are great but :
1) have to be gnome

We have an equivalent of iceplant and are very smoll, dexterious and cute, and cast arcane spells. I am thinking into this direction atm.

How can you even play gnome when you can't even be the coolest gnome in the party? Better murder regill so you don't have to walk in his shadow...
I mean look at his stare, that's what a gnome illusionist is supposed to look like. Killing you with a stare that makes you want to commit. But no dnd illusion magic is chaotic gnomes playing with rainbows and butterflies ;_;

What do you mean party?! He is coolest gnome of any cRPG so far.

Not even a contest, Regill was a very pleasant surprise from gnomes for me especially after Tartuccio the gnome punching bag.

 

[Percy]

The transformation into the Swarm is kinda funny.

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So basically you have a discussion/intervention with Iomedae and Nocticula (not sure if the gods change depending on path) and your companions.
Asked to choose between becoming mortal or continuing as a Trickster (btw the honk path is funny and OP, just give everyone improved critical feats and you can kill Hez and Baphoment in two rounds, particularly Wendaug and Aru)
Ask them what to do, 50/50 split between taking and rejecting it.
Let's see what is behind Door #3
Choose the Swarm.
Nocticula thinks you're disgusting.
Iomadae smites you.
You die.
Daeren thinks its funny.
You get reborn.