Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Yosharian]

Does that actually work? I tried to make Shield a cantrip and it didn't work, didn't even appear in the list

It didn't work at first, now it does.

My Trickster has a dip in vivi for the infinite true strikes I can dole out as needed. My brown fur arcanist will use a level 0 magic missile to pass turns she doesn't need to do anything more serious.

etc, etc.

How did you make it work?

 

[Stoned Ape]

Does that actually work? I tried to make Shield a cantrip and it didn't work, didn't even appear in the list

It didn't work at first, now it does.

My Trickster has a dip in vivi for the infinite true strikes I can dole out as needed. My brown fur arcanist will use a level 0 magic missile to pass turns she doesn't need to do anything more serious.

etc, etc.

How did you make it work?

I think it was just fixed in a recent patch. It should have been possible all along.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Lol, Rift of Ruin continues to cause damage even in turn based mode, your characters die while you can do nothing (It's a spell like Pit but it does continuous damage)

 

[LannTheStupid]

Lol, Rift of Ruin continues to cause damage even in turn based mode, your characters die while you can do nothing (It's a spell like Pit but it does continuous damage)

They did something with DoT spells in turn-based mode in the latest patch, I think. And there is no fix for this yet.

 

[Erebus]

I wasn't much impressed with the game's ability to suspend the player's disbelief in Acts 1 and 2, to put it mildly. But the beginning of Act 3 has shown me that I hadn't seen anything yet :

- I'm in my council room, doing commander shit, when a devil named Mephis... Melies shows up.

- He offers help in exchange for the souls of my soldiers. Which I guess makes sense, as devils hate demons and are interested in mortal souls. Still, shouldn't the other people in my council room react to such an entrance and such an offer ?

- Nope !

- I forbid him from taking the souls of my soldiers. He's not deterred and decides to stay right there in my council room. I can't do or say anything about that.

- And now, everytime I enter my council room, there's an 18-foot tall devil with bright red skin, huge horns and six wings (two of which are on fire) who's standing three feet away from my chair.

- And nobody has anything to say about that. Fucking Mephistopheles is standing right there and neither Regill, nor Anevia, nor Irabeth has a single of text to acknowledge the fact that his presence is, perhaps, a little bit disquieting.

 

[AwesomeButton]

It was ironic enough that you are having a council meeting with no established agenda, and people seem to walk in from outside like it's nothing.

 

[LannTheStupid]

It was ironic enough that you are having a council meeting with no established agenda, and people seem to walk in from outside like it's nothing.

It seems in tone with the whole "failed crusades" theme. At least as the Baron / King the main hero had absolute authority over his domain. It was actively contested, but not just left adrift. Here, there are half-orc commanders, fem-Putin with magic Botox commanders, hellknights who know better, some friendly or not-so-friendly supernatural beings, and so on. IMHO, the general feeling of "бардак" could be intentional.

 

[ArchAngel]

Fuck this shit, my Lich was 2nd time turned into a Dog during a boss fight and spent the battle going woof woof... if both enemies were not destroyed now I would raise them from the dead to kill them again..

 

[Technomancer]

trident. A weapon THAT CAN'T BE FINESSED

Heard there was a house rule in kingmaker that made every agile weapon working with finese. Not true for WotR?

 

[Fedora Master]

It was ironic enough that you are having a council meeting with no established agenda, and people seem to walk in from outside like it's nothing.

It seems in tone with the whole "failed crusades" theme. At least as the Baron / King the main hero had absolute authority over his domain. It was actively contested, but not just left adrift. Here, there are half-orc commanders, fem-Putin with magic Botox commanders, hellknights who know better, some friendly or not-so-friendly supernatural beings, and so on. IMHO, the general feeling of "бардак" could be intentional.

They should just have given command to the Hell Knights because they're clearly the only group with a modicum of skill at running an army.

 

[Thonius]

I wasn't much impressed with the game's ability to suspend the player's disbelief in Acts 1 and 2, to put it mildly. But the beginning of Act 3 has shown me that I hadn't seen anything yet :

- I'm in my council room, doing commander shit, when a devil named Mephis... Melies shows up.

- He offers help in exchange for the souls of my soldiers. Which I guess makes sense, as devils hate demons and are interested in mortal souls. Still, shouldn't the other people in my council room react to such an entrance and such an offer ?

- Nope !

- I forbid him from taking the souls of my soldiers. He's not deterred and decides to stay right there in my council room. I can't do or say anything about that.

- And now, everytime I enter my council room, there's an 18-foot tall devil with bright red skin, huge horns and six wings (two of which are on fire) who's standing three feet away from my chair.

- And nobody has anything to say about that. Fucking Mephistopheles is standing right there and neither Regill, nor Anevia, nor Irabeth has a single of text to acknowledge the fact that his presence is, perhaps, a little bit disquieting.

Uh maybe your MC is shizo and nobody sees him?

 

[cw8]

Is Sword Saint with Dueling Sword stupid? I don't see that many dueling swords in the game.

 

[ArchAngel]

I wasn't much impressed with the game's ability to suspend the player's disbelief in Acts 1 and 2, to put it mildly. But the beginning of Act 3 has shown me that I hadn't seen anything yet :

- I'm in my council room, doing commander shit, when a devil named Mephis... Melies shows up.

- He offers help in exchange for the souls of my soldiers. Which I guess makes sense, as devils hate demons and are interested in mortal souls. Still, shouldn't the other people in my council room react to such an entrance and such an offer ?

- Nope !

- I forbid him from taking the souls of my soldiers. He's not deterred and decides to stay right there in my council room. I can't do or say anything about that.

- And now, everytime I enter my council room, there's an 18-foot tall devil with bright red skin, huge horns and six wings (two of which are on fire) who's standing three feet away from my chair.

- And nobody has anything to say about that. Fucking Mephistopheles is standing right there and neither Regill, nor Anevia, nor Irabeth has a single of text to acknowledge the fact that his presence is, perhaps, a little bit disquieting.

Sounds like a bug...

 

[just]

Is Sword Saint with Dueling Sword stupid? I don't see that many dueling swords in the game.

it's a rapier kind of game

 

[Erebus]

Uh maybe your MC is shizo and nobody sees him?

I would have considered the possibility if I didn't know about the Devil Mythic Path.

I did think that perhaps the devil can only be seen by the PC (it would explain how everyone else can just ignore someone who looks like that). But, even if that were the case, it's weird that the PC just cannot discuss the devil's presence with others.

 

[Tsubutai]

Is Sword Saint with Dueling Sword stupid? I don't see that many dueling swords in the game.

I'm actually rolling one now, I think it's OK. You can use Finnean in Act 1, then start picking up unique ones from Act 2 onwards. There's a nice endgame dueling sword in the laughing caves in act 5.

 

[Sharpedge]

Just a general FYI for anyone else who enjoys playing spontaneous casters - If you level up while equipping items which grant additional spells to spontaneous casters (for example, the ring that gives a bunch of fire spells like scorching ray, fireball and fiery body) and you were due to gain a spell slot which could have potentially allocated a spell on the level of whatever spells the item is giving, the item will consume those spell slots and you will gain no spells of that spell level. So, to save yourself either having much less spells than intended for your class and having to respec if you want to fix it, whenever you level up, ensure you unequip any of these items.

fuck me sideways that's why?

It could also be because you took a second bloodline with the mythic feat, which does the same thing. Only you cannot "unequip" a second bloodline like you can with a ring, so the only way to undo that is to respec.

 

[Saark]

But, even if that were the case, it's weird that the PC just cannot discuss the devil's presence with others.

It might very well be the case that others just see him as a regular human or something. Or maybe after waging wars against demons for over a hundred years, people stopped giving a shit. I know I would. When you have to deal with demons and other ugly and much worse shit (i.e. trannies like Anevia) on a regular basis, having a devil around might seem like a good idea. The only sad part about no one commenting on it, is that I like to imagine that Melies and Regill regularly go get drunk after a long day of dealing with galfreys ineptitude, shittalking furries, ember and a commander that is sexually attracted to his pet dragon.

 

[Cryomancer]

Is kineticist viable for end game? Their was amazing on kingmaker but with the bloat of end game, I wonder if they can be great too.

 

[Sharpedge]

Is kineticist viable for end game? Their was amazing on kingmaker but with the bloat of end game, I wonder if they can be great too.

kinecist can solo the entire game on unfair - without a mythic path. Its just as cheesy as before. You do need to take a dip for a horse though so you can endlessly kite enemies while you are cheesing them.

 

[Jaedar]

Is Sword Saint with Dueling Sword stupid? I don't see that many dueling swords in the game.

I'm actually rolling one now, I think it's OK. You can use Finnean in Act 1, then start picking up unique ones from Act 2 onwards. There's a nice endgame dueling sword in the laughing caves in act 5.

Finnean also scales as the game progresses, adding more enchantment mods and more modifiers. You could easily use him the entire game if you wanted to, although it's not optimal.

It was ironic enough that you are having a council meeting with no established agenda, and people seem to walk in from outside like it's nothing.

It seems in tone with the whole "failed crusades" theme. At least as the Baron / King the main hero had absolute authority over his domain. It was actively contested, but not just left adrift. Here, there are half-orc commanders, fem-Putin with magic Botox commanders, hellknights who know better, some friendly or not-so-friendly supernatural beings, and so on. IMHO, the general feeling of "бардак" could be intentional.

The crusades and all the crusaders are very consistently portrayed as completely clueless, and there's maybe one half-competent person (anevia) in the entire army. It really reminds me of the black crusades in w40k, except in those everyone still pretends the commander is a tactical genius who just happened to fail to make any progress after 15 attempts. Wrathfinder takes the fact that there's been 5 crusades and not an inch of territory has been gained since the first one and presents the logical conclusion: everyone involved is an idiot. It's very refreshing, but I wish the pc was given more opportunities to call the NPCs out on their incompetence. You get to do it a few times, but you never get to fire anyone. Would have been nice if they lampshaded it with some dialogue about how it's the best we've got / can't make sweeping changes to the command staff at this critical juncture / etc.

 

[Ghulgothas]

The crusades and all the crusaders are very consistently portrayed as completely clueless, and there's maybe one half-competent person (anevia) in the entire army. It really reminds me of the black crusades in w40k, except in those everyone still pretends the commander is a tactical genius who just happened to fail to make any progress after 15 attempts. Wrathfinder takes the fact that there's been 5 crusades and not an inch of territory has been gained since the first one and presents the logical conclusion: everyone involved is an idiot. It's very refreshing, but I wish the pc was given more opportunities to call the NPCs out on their incompetence. You get to do it a few times, but you never get to fire anyone. Would have been nice if they lampshaded it with some dialogue about how it's the best we've got / can't make sweeping changes to the command staff at this critical juncture / etc.

Such does make Act V more entertaining when it's reached on one of the Evil Paths, since it's the first time you're allowed to truly take off your mask and drop the pleasantries you were forced to abide by before.

 

[Whisper]

Game is still heavily bugged?

 

[Minecrawler]

Thinking about trying out Angel.
Does it mean always sucking up to Iomedae, even on "vengeance" subpath?

 

[LannTheStupid]

Game is still heavily bugged?

Define "heavily".

The game has been played from start to finish on Ironman at least twice.