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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Longes

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Tried a throwing Legend Build with throwign axes 20 mutation warrior/20 bloodrager primalist

Javelins aren't light (and neither are darts surprisingly...) so TWF with them has more penalties

Anyways here is the test build. Mods used: TOybox (for levelup and equips), Tabletop tweaks (has some options for Advanced Weapon Training and bloodrager bloodlines)

Started with half-orc human raised (for +2 skill points/level) and 7 str/18+2dex/14 con/14 int/10 wis/12 cha, pickpocket background, feats point blank shot and precise shot.

Ended with this
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Attacks are 4 (BAB)+1 haste +1 Rapidshot = 6 in MH and 3 Greater TWF in OFfhand for total of 9 attacks per round at 30 feet range.
The Temp HP is False life greater + Bloodrage bonus.
Equips: +8 perfection belt and hat, +8 bracers of armor, +6 natural Armor Necklace, +6 ring of deflection, +6 cloak of resistance and +5 throwing axe (eye gouger) in MH and +4 throwing axe (nordic welcome) in offhand.
Note that the stats are with self-buff, mutagen, said equips, bloodrage and grand mutagen. if you add a Bard, a skald with lethal stance, a Judge, a brown fur transmuter etc... these stats will become even more hilarious

Bloodrager bloodlines (Destined and Aberrant) chosen for immunity to as many statuses and always active blindsight, critical hit / sneak attack immunity etc. Not to mention that Destined gives +5 luck bonus to AC and saves.
No Primalist bloodline to rage power swap was doen as I think the immunities are better. (and u can get a skald to give you totems/stances)
Mythic abilities are Endless rage @ lvl1 and Extra mythic ability:Second Bloodrager Bloodline - Aberrant bloodline

Kinda scary.
Although I don't like building "end game" builds. Personally prefer builds that will play well throughout and be pretty effective from start, worst case around level 10. Not saying this one wouldn't.
Honestly, Legend builds don't really matter. Any build that got you to act 5 will be fine in act 5, Legend or no. Legend just pushes you into a total power fantasy mode.
 

Mauman

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If you could somehow fit in Sohei 11 you could get 2 (3 with ki point) more attacks (yes, Sohei flurry stacks with TFW and rapid shot).

edit - obviously, it wouldn't fit for a chaotic neutral character, but if you're lawful I'd imagine it'd be a good trade.
 
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BarbequeMasta

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Kinda scary.
Although I don't like building "end game" builds. Personally prefer builds that will play well throughout and be pretty effective from start, worst case around level 10. Not saying this one wouldn't.

Yeah this why I think merged Lich/Angel will allways be the strongest paths. Their mythic rank 3 and 4 are the hardest player power spike I've ever seen in such a game, they absolutly bend the game over from chapter 3 onwards and generally maintain the lead.
 
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If you could somehow fit in Sohei 11 you could get 2 (3 with ki point) more attacks (yes, Sohei flurry stacks with TFW and rapid shot).

edit - obviously, it wouldn't fit for a chaotic neutral character, but if you're lawful I'd imagine it'd be a good trade.
Do sohei have acess to thrown weapon group in weapon training in WotR?.
I know they don't have axes. but otherwise you could do javelins, but gotta spend a feat for effortless duel wielding. But otherwise doable
You lose a lot of the bloodrage immunities (and self buffs) but get +3 more attack at full BAB. will test next weekend.

Haplo As soon as you can get sme throwing axes you are good to go. Gotta do the starting couple of levels with a crossbow though until you get acess to mutagen.(or have that rapier lady cast bulls strength on you).
Once deadly aim weapon spec mutagen etc. mature with the damage becomes very respectable even with the str penalty.
 

ArchAngel

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2AC from iceplant
It's actually +4 with the ring you can get right after the intro dungeon and it stacks with everything. The fey rogue is a really decent deal for a dex build, for two levels you get weapon finesse, +4 stackable AC and sneak dice. With +1/2 more you get stuff like more sneak dmg, bonus feat, finesse training and injury debuff. Would be really good if not for the fact that it loses uncanny dodge.
You lose one ring slot. Uncanny Dodge you get with lvl 9 spell foresight.
 

cw8

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Apart from her Phantasmal Killers being able to reliably and consistently kill after being boosted with Triple Spell Penetration and Persistent Metamagic, Nenio is worth keeping around just to see everyone she tries to talk to tell her to fuck off.

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Her exchange with

Bahopmet made me LOL. His reply is epic.

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Zboj Lamignat

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You lose one ring slot.
Yeah, I'm going to bite when it's permanent, stackable +4 that you can get right after reaching the tavern. Dex tanking is really good here for a change in the early game, thanks to stuff like that and the armor you get at the tower. On core you can easily get a char that's only getting hit on twenties almost right out of the box and that's without any +ac spell buffing.
 

volklore

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How many of the tile puzzle locations can you solve in a2 and a3 ? I solved the first one from a2 and then another one in a3. Which are basically the ones I got the tileset. I have a few leftover tiles in my bags(yellow) but there are not enough of them to solve the puzzle.
 

ga♥

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I started act4 and I really like the city, it makes no sense it's amazing. Reminds me of the Morrowind telvanni cities who didn't bother building stairs because 'lmao learn to levitate scrub!. I'd shill it hard if it wasn't for the fact that it runs horribly even on a really strong rig.

They spent a lot of effort on the city and it shows.
And yes, I have frequent dips below 30 FPS with a radeon 6800.
 

Parabalus

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How many of the tile puzzle locations can you solve in a2 and a3 ? I solved the first one from a2 and then another one in a3. Which are basically the ones I got the tileset. I have a few leftover tiles in my bags(yellow) but there are not enough of them to solve the puzzle.

You can't find 2 tilesets till act 5.
 

Ghulgothas

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Does anyone know what quest triggers the hard conclusion to Act V, like how completing the Ivory Sanctum sets the timer for the end of Act III? Wanna make sure I don't end up screwing myself.
 

Longes

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Does anyone know what quest triggers the hard conclusion to Act V, like how completing the Ivory Sanctum sets the timer for the end of Act III? Wanna make sure I don't end up screwing myself.
Entering the Threshold.

Btw, act III isn't timed. Once Galfrey has arrived you can tell her that you need to prepare and wait indefinitely. It's only the Azata path that is actually timed.
 

LannTheStupid

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The sequence between leaving the Shild Maze and ... arriving at the Defender's Heart is very confusing, to be honest.

However, it is definitely a change of pace.

Also, where can I discuss ages-old questions about trannies and stuff? In the now dead "cringefinder" topic?
 

Israfael

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Pedro's mexican slave did a low-key review of the game (8/10), apparently there are some of them that play D&D (not 4e or 5e)
 

Minecrawler

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So Paizo are talking about how important it was for them to invert "the trope" of white male knight in shining armor with Irabeth and then suddenly switch the topic to demonic corrupton and how demons are effective at manipulations and destroying from within.
:)
 

proxon

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Just finshed my trickster run on hard mode. As a combatfag i was mostly entartained throughout the game. Fights became repetitive in the second half, strategy for 80% of fights was buff up, cast selective sirroco than butcher everything with mc and Woljif, it was still good fun except for couple of bullshit encounters like Nocticula and some demon that was guarding last dungeon. He was spamming ascended and empowered chain lightnings for 450 damage, had to summon bunch of mobs so he wastes his spells, and still had to kite that fucker to down him eventually.

Some good trickster stuff: mostly fun trickster specific dialogues, overpowered arcana and perception tricks. Was getting some crazy items from regular +5 weapons. Perception was good because of extra feats, dont think i found any extra items because of it.

Some bad trickster stuff: bunch of tricks didnt work, ive read that athletic was removing your buffs, i picked two ranks of nature and didnt get anything i think, worst thing is summoning spells, those wild hunt mofos were killers in Kingmaker, here they just stand doing nothing and get twoshotted.

Some general tips: for melee for first mythic level get rupture restraints, i fucked myself over and got it at rank nine but it is the best mythic feat hands down. For casters, selective sirroco is number one, i had Areelu on her ass with this, three seconds after the fight started, other decent spells are ice prison and wierd, rest is meh.

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cw8

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Bahopmet made me LOL. His reply is epic.

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Regarding this fight
I've fought Baphomet 3 times, reloading to see the benefits of Noticula's profane gift. In all 3 fights, he always targets and polymorphs Nenio into an animal. Not sure if this dialogue is the cause of it heh. She's already an animal, but Baph probably wants to see her on fours and helpless.
 

ArchAngel

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Bahopmet made me LOL. His reply is epic.

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Regarding this fight
I've fought Baphomet 3 times, reloading to see the benefits of Noticula's profane gift. In all 3 fights, he always targets and polymorphs Nenio into an animal. Not sure if this dialogue is the cause of it heh. She's already an animal, but Baph probably wants to see her on fours and helpless.
He did that to my Lich. I guess his AI says to do that to your party wizard. And DC is so high you got little chance to resist it. Also I took a lot of Remove Curse attempts later to remove that :(
 

Anthedon

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Bahopmet made me LOL. His reply is epic.

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Regarding this fight
I've fought Baphomet 3 times, reloading to see the benefits of Noticula's profane gift. In all 3 fights, he always targets and polymorphs Nenio into an animal. Not sure if this dialogue is the cause of it heh. She's already an animal, but Baph probably wants to see her on fours and helpless.
He did that to my Lich. I guess his AI says to do that to your party wizard. And DC is so high you got little chance to resist it. Also I took a lot of Remove Curse attempts later to remove that :(

You can Baleful Polymorph the already polymorphed character. That lowers the Dispel DC considerably, otherwise my main char would have finished the game like this:

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The_Mask

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
Magic Nullification also works with getting rid of any... unwanted attention. The downside to it is that it also takes off any and all positive buffs. And that you have to remember to turn it off to get positive buffs in the future.
 

Longes

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Devil's rousing speech is my favorite:
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