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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Vatnik Wumao
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If you guys miss him that much, he's still pretty active on the Owlcats Wrath forums. He's only marginally less of a dick too. :smug:
Good to know but i doubt i will survive in that environment i already got banned on pf subreddit :shittydog:
He'll probably get banned over there too sooner or later due to his monocled aggressive stance and then he'll prolly come back to the 'dex.
 

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If you guys miss him that much, he's still pretty active on the Owlcats Wrath forums. He's only marginally less of a dick too. :smug:
Good to know but i doubt i will survive in that environment i already got banned on pf subreddit :shittydog:
He'll probably get banned over there too sooner or later due to his monocled aggressive stance and then he'll prolly come back to the 'dex.

Very few from the dex survive for any extended period of time on other communities.

They get used to how things work here and can't survive the moderation of other places.
 

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If you guys miss him that much, he's still pretty active on the Owlcats Wrath forums. He's only marginally less of a dick too. :smug:
Good to know but i doubt i will survive in that environment i already got banned on pf subreddit :shittydog:
He'll probably get banned over there too sooner or later due to his monocled aggressive stance and then he'll prolly come back to the 'dex.

I'm actually mildly surprised he hasn't managed it yet. He's had more than one person tell him off for his... Desideriusness.
 

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There's a problem when even Reddit thinks you're retarded.
I took my stand against censorship
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There's a problem when even Reddit thinks you're retarded.
I took my stand against censorship
7IryIgY.png

That's actually what I hate about most other forums generally. Everything's all srs bzns all the time with no room for just taking the piss now and again. That post sounds funny as hell.
 

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Now that I am playing my He-Man run in Real time while waiting for full release of fixes for charge in TB I kind of don't enjoy it much. AI does most battles without me needing to do much. Everyone rushes around like crazy, zergs one guy and murders him fast and moves on. Looks like playing Zerg in Sc2 lol instead of a pathfinder RPG. Maybe it didn't matter much in TB as well but at least I felt like I was doing something and making some decisions.. now it is just boring.
 

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There's a problem when even Reddit thinks you're retarded.
I took my stand against censorship
7IryIgY.png

That's actually what I hate about most other forums generally. Everything's all srs bzns all the time with no room for just taking the piss now and again. That post sounds funny as hell.

Funny coming from the guy who mass rates my posts because he's butthurt 24/7.

Try posting something funny, not your usual REEEEing. I get tired of wading through your tears.
 

LannTheStupid

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Now that I am playing my He-Man run in Real time while waiting for full release of fixes for charge in TB I kind of don't enjoy it much. AI does most battles without me needing to do much. Everyone rushes around like crazy, zergs one guy and murders him fast and moves on. Looks like playing Zerg in Sc2 lol instead of a pathfinder RPG. Maybe it didn't matter much in TB as well but at least I felt like I was doing something and making some decisions.. now it is just boring.
Up the difficulty, then. And rest less.

When I had to win two difficult fights using only consumables on Hard, I appreciated RTwP very much. And learned that for an actual 2D game the pathfinding is near perfect. I had to use the 'V' button through half of both fights, but it helped me to understand how good the game actually is.
 

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"Near" being the key word here, I guess. Your party still doesn't keep your selected formation when moving (something that was done in rts from 22 years ago) and combat is chock-full of pure retardation like chars being unable to move past already engaged allies and just strolling a few steps side to side behind their backs, eating reach weapon AOOs like candy.
 

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1. It is not Starcraft and will never be.
2. It should not be played as an RTS. If you were able to read you would have noticed the mention of the 'V' button. This is important.
3. There is no third dimension in the game. Nothing can be jumped over or stepped over, only walked around. For those who understand that pathfinding becomes way more predictable.
 

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I think the 'choosing your mythic path' section speaks to a consensus. The Mythic Path system is an experiment of Owlcat's. And it's fair to say that an Enhanced Edition of the game could use some changes.

Most important of all is how Mythic Rank ups need to be paced better. There are long stretches of time through the game where you get no rank ups only to get 2 or 3 ranks one after the other. This means that the more frontloaded paths reign supreme.

In fact Angel and Lich are so frontloaded they get carried by Spellbook Merging, but that's not even all they get. Special mechanics like the lich powers and sword of heaven mean that Angel and Lich are feature complete entire acts before Aeon or Demon even gets going.

Every other path needs to get used to the idea that whatever power they manage to acquire by Ranks 4-5 will define most of the experience and that's a shame. Trickster has a great many impossible things that it can do. But at the end of the day, 9 times out of 10 you'll use Perception 2's broken ass feats to buff your entire party. Mobility 2 and Trickery's dispel can sorta compete but even then, that is it. Azata is in similar spot, only difference being that they are designed to synergize with character classes more directly. If I had a penny for every Azata player or Trickster player who needs to be reminded the 2 latter superpowers and 2 Greater Tricks come about so late they might as well not exist I'd have about 27 pennies. But only because I'm not overly social.

Even so those two are way better off than anybody else. If the latter powers of Azata and Trickster might as well not exist, then the entirety of Aeon and Demon never get going. Hell, Gold Dragon and Swarm are especially fucked. Devil is only somewhat better off because they can coast on having been Azata.

Every path that isn't Angel or Lich could use some tweaking to their progression. Every path that isn't Angel/Lich/Azata/Trickster need to be overhauled. Especially Aeon.
 
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Zboj Lamignat

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1. It is not Starcraft and will never be.
2. It should not be played as an RTS. If you were able to read you would have noticed the mention of the 'V' button. This is important.
3. There is no third dimension in the game. Nothing can be jumped over or stepped over, only walked around. For those who understand that pathfinding becomes way more predictable.
Errr... what.
 

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Whom of the companions do you use to brew potions?
I don't really brew potions but you can make Woljif into an incense synthesizer, which will give you potions, aoe alchemy bonus to hit, and infusions.
This is exactly what I've done - but I don't like his range of spells. That is why I'm asking.

Thanks for the idea anyway.
 

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I think the 'choosing your mythic path' section speaks to a consensus. Unfair or not the Mythic Path system is an experiment and there was a lot of uncharted water to cover. An Enhanced Edition of the game could use some changes.

Most important of all is how Mythic Rank ups need to be paced better. There are long stretches of time through the game where you get no rank ups only to get 2 or 3 ranks one after the other. This means that the more frontloaded paths reign supreme.

In fact Angel and Lich are so frontloaded they get carried by Spellbook Merging, but that's not even all they get. Special mechanics like the lich powers and sword of heaven mean that Angel and Lich are feature complete entire acts before Aeon or Demon even gets going.

Every other path needs to get used to the idea that whatever power they manage to acquire by Ranks 4-5 will define most of the experience and that's a shame. Trickster has a great many impossible things that it can do. But at the end of the day, 9 times out of 10 you'll use Perception 2's broken ass feats to buff your entire party. Mobility 2 and Trickery's dispel can sorta compete but even then, that is it. Azata is in similar spot, only difference being that they are designed to synergize with character classes more directly. If I had a penny for every Azata player or Trickster player who needs to be reminded the 2 latter superpowers and 2 Greater Tricks come about so late they might as well not exist I'd have about 27 pennies. But only because I'm not overly social.

Even so those two are way better off than anybody else. If the latter powers of Azata and Trickster might as well not exist, then the entirety of Aeon and Demon never get going. Hell, Gold Dragon and Swarm are especially fucked. Devil is only somewhat better off because they can coast on having been Azata.

Every path that isn't Angel or Lich could use some tweaking to their progression. Every path that isn't Angel/Lich/Azata/Trickster need to be overhauled. Especially Aeon.

As I understand, TableTop Tweaks has some modifications for Aeon, which make the path not overpowered, but more reasonable/worthy. Still inferior to the best ones, but not bad.
 

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Every path that isn't Angel or Lich could use some tweaking to their progression. Every path that isn't Angel/Lich/Azata/Trickster need to be overhauled. Especially Aeon.

The first playthrough I did was Aeon->Gold Dragon on Core difficulty.

My character was a Sage Sorcerer (17) Hellknight Signifer (3) with the abyssal second bloodline.

While he was an Aeon I found the path enjoyable to play and got decent use out of the Aeon powers and spells, which gave me some different stuff to experiment with.

When I got to Gold Dragon I felt like I had been horribly nerfed. For something you had to unlock and wait for, it was tremendously disappointing. At rank 9 it was a bit of an improvement but because I had to complete the Gold Dragon fetch quests to unlock it I was almost at the end of Chapter 5 when I got it. Overall, I got something close to the character I wanted to play when the only parts of the game left to complete were the Enigma, Laughing Cave and Threshold.

I've still not played as an Angel or a Lich so far, I imagine I'll probably have to think about playing on a higher difficulty if they're as strong as suggested.
 
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If they fix trickster tricks, it should help it a lot, especially combining knowledge arcana + knowledge lore nature 3 (kingmaker) items.

In theory you would start getting belts of perfection +9, steelwind +4...

Also imho they should let Reuse magic device be like Use any item in BG2 (if you read the description it seems they meant it to be like it but it doesn't work right now).

Crit feats are awesome but you still need to hit to crit, comes online after a lot and needs you to sacrifice lot of feats for it.

Swarm still seem the worst path.
 

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