Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[proxon]

Just finished my lich run, with crusade mode addon, because fuck that shit again. Huge power spike at mythic level 3, you get the best spells right away, Corrupted Blood and Repurpose. No enemies that matter are immune to the first one, and with Repurpose end game Mariliths and archers that you can buff on top of their stats are clearing whole maps. You could probably solo unfair if you pick your battles when you unlock mythic path, but i would get bored and didn't try it. I was playing in turn based mode this time, only than can you notice bunch of funny stuff. Like your "army" that helps you at Treshold are like five hellknights with 60hp, while you are fighting with 1500+ hp enemies. Summoning spells still suck, a dragon that you get at mythic level nine is soloed by a level 15 trash mob. Game is still a buggy mess, keyboard keys would randomly stop responding at the last map, space bar bug etc. Also that designer that came up with shaking screen at Treshold should be sent to Siberia, still the game is addictive for combatfags so all in all good job Ruskies.
Areelu fight spoilers

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she failed her save on Absolute Death after, and fight was over

 

[Thonius]

I feel like we are playing a different game, repurpose take like 2 turns to animate, and most battles take 5 turns max even boss fight(except deskari fuck that dude)

 

[Seigneur Locklear]

Imagine Seelah with this portrait

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TERENDELEV

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HAS ANYONE SEEN TERENDELEV?

 

[Jaedar]

This is a big misconception. They do get spell-like abilities for summon monster 9 but they have limitations. Namely you can only have one summon monster x spell-like ability up at the same time, in exchange they have longer duration. Casting from spellbook, you can cast the same summon monster spells as many times as you want and summons will keep piling up without canceling each other. And inquisitors only get up to summon monster VI in their spellbook.

How much are you sleeping that you can afford to cast your highest level summon multiple times per fight?

But yeah, that is a limitation, especially for bosses and the like. Although at the same time, against bosses summons will hit on 20+ so they're kinda useless anyway.

F: greybor

Why?

He's a real bro.

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Commander, give me 12500 gold or I'll kill you. *dies in one turn because he's a shit character and even if he wasn't 1v6 are not good odds*

I might be biased, I never took him on a quest I didn't have to. But every single interaction I had with him tells me he is a boring character with a boring build.

 

[perfectslumbers]

I might be biased, I never took him on a quest I didn't have to. But every single interaction I had with him tells me he is a boring character with a boring build.

His build is ass. He has some funny dialogue in camps and what not but thats about it for his character. And some funny dialogue if you get the respect ending for his quest.

 

[Lagole Gon]

F: greybor

Why?

He's a real bro.

All his dialogues revolve around him being super cool assassin. He's one step away from this:

Simply business, kid.

 

[Sunri]

Gaybor gaybor jewbor

 

[Parabalus]

F: greybor

Why?

He's a real bro.

All his dialogues revolve around him being super cool assassin. He's one step away from this:

Simply business, kid.

Need to have a drink with him first. He's surprisingly down to earth, nothing close to meme edgy.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Hit the first big disappointment.

It seems the crowd of feeble-minded English-speaking whiners broke Owlcat Games for good, at least in one aspect. They became so afraid of hate for the timed quests that they made the game more traditional in the worst sense of this word. Now the time advances only by the click of the player. Nothing else can change the world, as it was in all CRPG's before. Which would have been OK if not for Kingmaker where time goes as it should go - independently from the player. The player can choose to react to the events or to ignore them - and lose the game.

Now, I did not try to test if Chapter 1 can fail due to frequent long rests. If it can - OK.

However,

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when the attack of the Defender's Heart - a small tavern in the city, presumably, overrun by demons - can start only by the explicit player's choice

I find it extremely disgusting.

I wonder what else they dumbed down.

On the brighter note:

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Darian Wytt?

Dorian Gray anyone?

 

[perfectslumbers]

Now, I did not try to test if Chapter 1 can fail due to frequent long rests. If it can - OK.

The chapter cannot fail but a lot of things go to shit if you don't do them before tavern defense, you can miss companions and characters will die. And the sadistic game design boss appears after the tavern fight. Unfortunately that's all the timed stuff other than the secret ending.

 

[perfectslumbers]

that's all the timed stuff other than the secret ending.

Is the secret ending really timed tho?.

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I did it twice by going there in 4717, but I'm not 100% sure the year matter, just the month and the day. I suppose it shouldn't be too hard to test, just extremely boring since you'd have to skip day for a few hundred times.

Yeah I guess there's technically no time limit, just it has to happen at a specific time so you're right.

 

[Sharpedge]

Now, I did not try to test if Chapter 1 can fail due to frequent long rests. If it can - OK.

The chapter cannot fail but a lot of things go to shit if you don't do them before tavern defense, you can miss companions and characters will die. And the sadistic game design boss appears after the tavern fight. Unfortunately that's all the timed stuff other than the secret ending.

The boss that appears after the tavern defense is not required for Sadistic Game Design. The only bosses required for SGD in act 1 are

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Kervil the Sparkling Fist (Silken Thread Atelier), Faxon (Tower of Estrod, pre-tavern fight), Succubus (Tirabade residence) and the Cairn Wight (Pitaxian Wine Cellar).

The list of "optional bosses" required for the achievement is completely divorced from the achievement bosses, despite what you might think. You can verify this by looking through the etudes with the search string "SadisticGD," you will find the following for act 1.

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that's all the timed stuff other than the secret ending.

Is the secret ending really timed tho?.

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I did it twice by going there in 4717, but I'm not 100% sure the year matter, just the month and the day. I suppose it shouldn't be too hard to test, just extremely boring since you'd have to skip day for a few hundred times.

It checks the day and month, not the year.

 

[Whisper]

Now, I did not try to test if Chapter 1 can fail due to frequent long rests. If it can - OK.

The chapter cannot fail but a lot of things go to shit if you don't do them before tavern defense, you can miss companions and characters will die. And the sadistic game design boss appears after the tavern fight. Unfortunately that's all the timed stuff other than the secret ending.

What boss? That appears when you kill cultist necromancer?

 

[Ghulgothas]

Now, I did not try to test if Chapter 1 can fail due to frequent long rests. If it can - OK.

The chapter cannot fail but a lot of things go to shit if you don't do them before tavern defense, you can miss companions and characters will die. And the sadistic game design boss appears after the tavern fight. Unfortunately that's all the timed stuff other than the secret ending.

What boss? That appears when you kill cultist necromancer?

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Go back to where you fought the cultist necromancer after the tavern defense to meet a new flying friend

 

[proxon]

I feel like we are playing a different game, repurpose take like 2 turns to animate, and most battles take 5 turns max even boss fight(except deskari fuck that dude)

On hard mode battles last longer than two turns, especially if my physical dps gets bad rolls. Plus those summons stay with you even after rest, pretty useful on bigger maps. Second fight against Deskari was against his echo or whatever was the name and he was a pushover, on my trickster run second fight was actual Deskari and was a lot harder.

 

[The_Mask]

It checks the day and month, not the year.

Wait... so you can futz around for a year and try again later? That's amazing!

 

[LannTheStupid]

I wonder how difficult it would be to mod in time limits for quests.

Hmmm...

P.S.: they are actually updating their repository on git(good)hub: https://github.com/OwlcatOpenSource/WrathModificationTemplate

 

[ga♥]

Damn, they have broke Blackwater circlet machine, AGAIN.
It was bugged before if you do the things in incorrect order, then it was working ok but you needed skill check.

Now they have added endless attempts to skill check, with endless xp farm to the boot, but dialogue never recognize the original circlet in my bag so the damn thing never works. And I am DDing to the last 3 rooms again.

Holy shit!

They took like 2 years to fix the Bartolomew whip quest in Kingmaker so I wouldn't fret too much.

Found it working the first time only this summer in my last playthrough.

 

[NJClaw]

I just spent like 30 days skipping days in Drezen to enchant some relics and then decided to travel to Iz. As soon as I reached my destination, I realized that my entire party hadn't slept a single time IN AN ENTIRE MONTH. Fucking Nenio can't travel 6 hours without complaining, then she goes THIRTY DAYS without resting AND SHE ISN'T EVEN FATIGUED.

Why would anyone implement a "skip day" button without making it give the benefits of a rest?

 

[Delterius]

Why would anyone implement a "skip day" button without making it give the benefits of a rest?

In Kingmaker I remember that for some reason it would effectively rest everybody except the main character. Funny how it got slightly worse like that.

 

[ga♥]

I just spent like 30 days skipping days in Drezen to enchant some relics and then decided to travel to Iz. As soon as I reached my destination, I realized that my entire party hadn't slept a single time IN AN ENTIRE MONTH. Fucking Nenio can't travel 6 hours without complaining, then she goes THIRTY DAYS without resting AND SHE ISN'T EVEN FATIGUED.

Why would anyone implement a "skip day" button without making it give the benefits of a rest?

No please, imagine if for every skip day the rest tab pops up.

 

[Delterius]

I just spent like 30 days skipping days in Drezen to enchant some relics and then decided to travel to Iz. As soon as I reached my destination, I realized that my entire party hadn't slept a single time IN AN ENTIRE MONTH. Fucking Nenio can't travel 6 hours without complaining, then she goes THIRTY DAYS without resting AND SHE ISN'T EVEN FATIGUED.

Why would anyone implement a "skip day" button without making it give the benefits of a rest?

No please, imagine if for every skip day the rest tab pops up.

why would it include the rest tab

just skip and apply rest effects

 

[NJClaw]

I just spent like 30 days skipping days in Drezen to enchant some relics and then decided to travel to Iz. As soon as I reached my destination, I realized that my entire party hadn't slept a single time IN AN ENTIRE MONTH. Fucking Nenio can't travel 6 hours without complaining, then she goes THIRTY DAYS without resting AND SHE ISN'T EVEN FATIGUED.

Why would anyone implement a "skip day" button without making it give the benefits of a rest?

No please, imagine if for every skip day the rest tab pops up.

I'm sure technology is advanced enough to allow us to get the benefits of a rest even without the rest tab. I mean, after all, Larian did manage to invent and implement such an arcane thing as CLICKING ON PORTRAITS TO TARGET SPELLS, I'm sure Owlcat will figure something out.

 

[Whisper]

Now, I did not try to test if Chapter 1 can fail due to frequent long rests. If it can - OK.

The chapter cannot fail but a lot of things go to shit if you don't do them before tavern defense, you can miss companions and characters will die. And the sadistic game design boss appears after the tavern fight. Unfortunately that's all the timed stuff other than the secret ending.

What boss? That appears when you kill cultist necromancer?

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Go back to where you fought the cultist necromancer after the tavern defense to meet a new flying friend

You need to kill cult necromancer before tavern defence to get it to spawn.
Any other content with special bosses/monsters you can miss before tavern defence if you do not do before?

 

[The_Mask]

Why would anyone implement a "skip day" button without making it give the benefits of a rest?

Because we're more interested in achievements with funny badges than implementing gameplay.

If Steam overlay crashes for a month, you'll just see everyone's life slowly draining from their eyes. Like... when you take the phone charger from a zoomer.