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The_Mask

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
I'm having big problems with the fight at the end of the demodand quest.

The archers just obliterate the squishies, and the stringy demodands that spawn in right on top of the backline don't help. And the rest of the encounter (3 gallus, 4 high level kineticists and 1 super strong alchemist) aren't really pushovers either. And everything has a lot of buffs, massive hp pools and high saves in every category. I suspect the correct strategy is to use some very metagamey mass dimension door to teleport all squishies up to the second level while the bruisers stay on the ground floor (I tried teleporting everyone, but the balconies are too narrow so you just trip over yourself). Even then, the archers just have high enough initative that I am guaranteed to lose one character before they get a chance to act.

Doesn't help that the displacement buff they have seems to ignore true seeing.
If you have Dark Veil, cast it. Use Shout, if you have it, to stun for at least 1 round. I think Prot from Arrows works, but I can't remember for sure. And... yeah, it's a shit encounter.
 

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
Completed survey.

#1 - The Enigma encounter design. Please add more than 7 mobs. I've literally taken a break for a week now, because I can't handle it. And I've seen the Lost Chapel 5 times.
#2 - remove romances from future games. Owlcat RPGs would be 10x better without dicks and vaginas everywhere.

and

#3 - a message to Paizo: STOP! putting your stereotypical, dry, tripe, half-assed, trash "companions". I'm going to be sick! Just let the owl and cat, Vodka-fueled dipshits to do their thing.
 

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Interesting that in the survey they have 2 specific questions for ch.5 and 6. I think ch.5 is not necessarily bad, it doesn't really shine either, feels more like a rush to tie up loose ends. Ch. 6 however, is not a chapter and, Jupiter forgive me for writing this, it makes House at the End of Time look good. Surely, I'm being fabulously optimistic here, but maybe...

Suggestion 1: commission more portraits. Weird how a character as narratively insignificant as your quartermaster has a portrait while others like Zacharius have to go without. And the FemAzata desperately needs a portrait that doesn't make her look like a stageplay extra.
I acknowledge your agenda, but the only true answer to the portrait problem is not have more of what already exists, but delete everything and pay whatever the fuck it takes to Justin Sweet to remake the whole thing.

Imo the portrait "problem" is a non-starter. Download whatever pictures you want and drop them in the portraits folder. Done.
 

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#2 - remove romances from future games. Owlcat RPGs would be 10x better without dicks and vaginas everywhere.

and

#3 - a message to Paizo: STOP! putting your stereotypical, dry, tripe, half-assed, trash "companions". I'm going to be sick! Just let the owl and cat, Vodka-fueled dipshits to do their thing.

Fixed. Otherwise, I wholeheartedly agree!
 

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If your suggestion to fixing portraits is 'change the artsyle' then it's already over. You're placing yourself out of the discussion. I did ask for them to include some generic portraits of hooded people without weapons but that's just me. I like when games include something like that so I can just ignore the portrait google images hunt altogether. I think most people would benefit from fewer portraits with weapons. Why does every dwarf lady have a crossbow? Why does this aasimar guy have a glaive? Etc. They'd always be much more useful if the weapons weren't included.
 

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dry, tripe, half-assed, trash "companions". I

If you could add some companions to the game, which one would you add?

I?
  • A very sexy blonde, red eyed winter witch
  • A very wise old druid which HATES civilization and demons
  • A cavalier mounted in a wryven
  • A Barbarian from Numeria who hates magic and technology and blames technology and magic for the worldwound and blackwater will freak him out.
  • A mad scientist type of alchemist or transmuter wizard
  • A powerful half vampire cruoromancer in a quest to kill Zacharius cuz he used his father in experiments
  • A zealot "lawful retarded" monk
  • A Kobold pariah ostracized by his tribe
  • A very horny bard
  • A kitsune samurai companion (only to trigger the people still butthurt over kitsune wining over rats)
 

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Completed as well, main point for me were to add 1 mythic level in chapter 3 and remove one from chapter 4-5 transition and let mythic spells scale DC of the highest casting stat (int, cha, wis) of the player character.
My other problems with the games are probably deeper and not the scope of the survey (like the management layer not being tied to rest restriction anymore)
 

Jaedar

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Suggestion 1: commission more portraits. Weird how a character as narratively insignificant as your quartermaster has a portrait while others like Zacharius have to go without. And the FemAzata desperately needs a portrait that doesn't make her look like a stageplay extra.
There's also way too few portraits for the pc. You basically have to use custom portraits, which is kind of a pain.

It's not easy to give feedback with this form. On the one hand, regill, camel and ember are great. Otoh, you have stuff like Lann and Sosiel. A lot of the fights are good and tuned to be an interesting challenge, but a lot of them are also insane piles of stats and immunities, where trying to fight them feels like trying to cross reference their list of insane immunities and stats against every single thing available to your party and trying to find the 3 available things that can contribute (and spamming skip turn with the rest of the party).

If your suggestion to fixing portraits is 'change the artsyle' then it's already over. You're placing yourself out of the discussion. I did ask for them to include some generic portraits of hooded people without weapons but that's just me. I like when games include something like that so I can just ignore the portrait google images hunt altogether. I think most people would benefit from fewer portraits with weapons. Why does every dwarf lady have a crossbow? Why does this aasimar guy have a glaive? Etc. They'd always be much more useful if the weapons weren't included.
Yeah. There really needs to be more generic portraits like "normal sized character with heavy armor". Instead of "Human male with dagger, leather armor and who is performing magic".
 

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dry, tripe, half-assed, trash "companions". I

If you could add some companions to the game, which one would you add?

I?
  • A very sexy blonde, red eyed winter witch
  • A very wise old druid which HATES civilization and demons
  • A cavalier mounted in a wryven
  • A Barbarian from Numeria who hates magic and technology and blames technology and magic for the worldwound and blackwater will freak him out.
  • A mad scientist type of alchemist or transmuter wizard
  • A powerful half vampire cruoromancer in a quest to kill Zacharius cuz he used his father in experiments
  • A zealot "lawful retarded" monk
  • A Kobold pariah ostracized by his tribe
  • A very horny bard
  • A kitsune samurai companion (only to trigger the people still butthurt over kitsune wining over rats)
Alternative party - 9 dwarfs and one wizzard or 10 hobbits, better yet 10 ratfolks.
 

volklore

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Portraits cut at the shoulders/neck are just better. Because build/armor/weapon are too unique to character class and should be left to the imagination. Plus they cost less to commission so you can make more.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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Ok, so for classes that don't get martial proficiency the deity selection comes after feat selection and even if you take deity that should give you proficiency you cannot come back and change. I wanted a purifier with martial weapon focus through battle revelation and the game says fuck you. Lame.
 

The_Mask

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
dry, tripe, half-assed, trash "companions". I

If you could add some companions to the game, which one would you add?

I?
  • A very sexy blonde, red eyed winter witch
  • A very wise old druid which HATES civilization and demons
  • A cavalier mounted in a wryven wyvern
  • A Barbarian from Numeria who hates magic and technology and blames technology and magic for the worldwound World Wound and blackwater Blackwater will freak him out.
  • A mad scientist type of alchemist or transmuter wizard
  • A powerful half vampire cruoromancer in a quest to kill Zacharius cuz because he used his father in experiments
  • A zealot "lawful retarded" monk
  • A Kobold pariah ostracized by his tribe
  • A very horny bard
  • A kitsune samurai companion (only to trigger the people still butthurt over kitsune wining over rats)
Normally, I'd say that the monk is what I'd choose. But, honestly, your spelling is appallingly bad, and also... I, honestly, don't care anymore. I just don't want to see anything Paizo-imposed.

Don't send any love letters to any women you date. They might send them back corrected with a red pencil.
 

zapotec

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Is this good starting build for a dwarf crusader cleric?
Core difficulty
I was thinking 14 Str, 14 Dex, 14 Cos, 12 int, 19 wis 6 char
Starting feats: Steel soul
Crusader bonus feats: Shield focus
Domain: Protection
 

LannTheStupid

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Well, as a reader - and not a writer - I definitely do not want to create biographies of other party members, so for me companions are almost mandatory. And, unless the party consists only of European (not Wushu) monks and undead, romances as the part of character development are necessary, too.

However, now I understand what the game is lacking. There are no Kitsune succubi!
 

Jermu

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Is this good starting build for a dwarf crusader cleric?
Core difficulty
I was thinking 14 Str, 14 Dex, 14 Cos, 12 int, 19 wis 6 char
Starting feats: Steel soul
Crusader bonus feats: Shield focus
Domain: Protection

Pretty much anything is good enough for core. Looks decent enough I would go more heavily on either str or dex (str if u plan on wearing heavy armor). You should also get acolyte background so u can change cha->wis dialogue checks
 

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Completed survey.

#1 - The Enigma encounter design. Please add more than 7 mobs. I've literally taken a break for a week now, because I can't handle it. And I've seen the Lost Chapel 5 times.
#2 - remove romances from future games. Owlcat RPGs would be 10x better without dicks and vaginas everywhere.

and

#3 - a message to Paizo: STOP! putting your stereotypical, dry, tripe, half-assed, trash "companions". I'm going to be sick! Just let the owl and cat, Vodka-fueled dipshits to do their thing.

They should add more romancable npcs can't wait for dlc companion!
 

The_Mask

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
What is best class/class combo for Aeon mythic path?
I went Monk/Student of Stone. It was pretty nice. But, I like monks, so take that with a grain of salt.

If that's not your cup'o'tea, I can see Judge being an equally satisfying experience. Especially now that they unbugged the class.

An Wizard/Abjurer can also work.
 

Cryomancer

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I wonder if some sort of community domain herald caller with ascedant summons and aeon summoner's gaze can work on Core and above.

My guess. Can work in chapters 1~4. After it, your summons will probably only hit on 20. HE still can use summons as distractions. I did it in my dhampir cruoromancer run(which was my first run)
 

lycanwarrior

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Man, what's up with the EVIL companions in this game.

First, it was Wenduag.

Now it's Camellia.

Already getting a sense about Daerun from his personal quest in Act 5.

Just can't trust them lol.
 

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