Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Desiderius]

-This fight is an example of how Owlcat fundamentally fails to understand the system they're running. A CR 8 fight isn't supposed to be winnable by *any* level 2 party of *any* composition. I was able to win through pure luck--it rolled poorly to hit and I scored some critical charges. But in any normal game that's a TPK. It's like "rocks fall everyone dies" but the DM actually goes to the trouble of rolling the rock damage, and somehow rolls 20d6 with all 1s.

-What is the actual point? The game has some blatant unfair fights. So you should... just... not... fight... stuff... ? Okay? But why? It's not even like the elemental is guarding anything good or gatekeeping a tougher area of the dungeon. it's just a random out of depth monster because fuck you that's why.

The DM has the power to obliterate the party at any time but no one is impressed when this happens for no reason.

ALL pcrpgs are designed around save scumming. Moreover players legitimately think save scumming is proper gameplay. Meaning if you don't include unrealistic challenge they can save scum players will treat game as too easy and so bad game.

That fight is winnable if you have some huge two hander damage dealer. I know because i did it on core rules.

Owlcat idea about skipping fights would be great IF they would design game around that. Meaning that loot shouldn't be tied to "hard area". That works in case of that water elemental but everywhere else it is the same as in other games. Here is hard fight, do it and you will get some loot.

I wish there was crpg that did in fact by default would be hardcore only. No save scumming.

Water Elem has loot you can use most of game.

 

[Desiderius]

Lann is Shortbow because his dice grow like fis

I don't understand that. Care to explain? Why is he not a Longbow?

Because his damage dice grow like fists regardless of weapon, so he does as much damage with Short as Long. There are good Shortbows worth having someone who can use them.

 

[Shadenuat]

they made the storyteller in to a fag

lol you're kidding me. Owltranny just keeps getting worse and worse.

Your allies are falling to the gameplay one by one like leaves in the wind torn from a great tree. Would you be the one not to fall, or the last? We even have Princess Volourn now. Your case is doomed.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Sad,they made the storyteller in to a fag too...also his story is pretty shit,now he is just shitty useless "relic" spawner.

Pathfinder: Everyone is Gay Edition

it appears bioware's only sin was not moving their headquarters to eastern europe, then they'd be rpgcodex's golden child

 

[Desiderius]

Fucked around with Grenadier+Trickster some more. Bomb AoE damage doesn't seem to be able to crit, only direct damage can. Ah well. Also, even if I have the Improved Improved Improved Critical, which increases the multiplier by 1, bombs still use the x2 multiplier. So it's bugged.

Right now Lich is superior to Trickster for Grenadier, because one of its feats applies Negative Energy damage bonus to bomb AoE damage. Trickster does have Microscopic Proportions, which for some reason stacks with Reduced Person, when applying extra DEX for a total of +8 DEX.

Now try the Bomb-throwing Rogue, since the game treats actual bombs as Weapons and he gets Sneaks on them.

Am I reading the class right and you only need one copy of a bomb (like a vial of holy water) and you can reuse it over & over?

I’d doubt that but who knows? There are advanced bombs that start showing up in Ch 4. You can also use Alchemical Weapon on Autocast with Grenadier to mix Bombs together to trigger Elemental Barrage.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Sad,they made the storyteller in to a fag too...also his story is pretty shit,now he is just shitty useless "relic" spawner.

LGBT propaganda is really stong in this game. Not to mention that writing is on fanfic levels.

As I've said before, the two are related. When you prioritize wedging your political ideals into a story, you focus less on other more important elements.

I honestly think I could rewrite most of these characters better myself, even if their perverted LGBT attributes remained the same. Why? Because I'd focus on the characters and not the political agenda.

 

[Tao]

Athletic checks are killing me in Ch.2

D:

 

[LabRat]

Seriously, still no Quick Study exploit? There is no reason to play Arcanist.

 

[Wunderbar]

Athletic checks are killing me in Ch.2

D:

fat

 

[Reinhardt]

Athletic checks are killing me in Ch.2

D:

 

[Shadenuat]

it appears bioware's only sin was not moving their headquarters to eastern europe, then they'd be rpgcodex's golden child

i said eat

 

[Desiderius]

If all you phaggots can complain about are things that just reveal how much you suck then game must be pretty damn good indeed.

It's nice to know you found the one thing in life that makes you feel better than everybody else. I do wish Owlcat had produced a proper manual instead of a live version of clippit that haunts this forum.

Spoiler

Better than everyone here is a low bar, but I didn’t even clear that. Shadenuat is better than me and Meredoth has already finished the game.

I feel like shit because I’m hanging out with a bunch of degenerate retards who want to whine and cry instead of using your brains and enjoying figuring things out.

Guess I shouldn’t be surprised when you project your resentments and neuroses on me since if you approach life like you approach this game you’d end up with a lot to resent.

Git gud.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I feel like shit because I’m hanging out with a bunch of degenerate retards who want to whine and cry instead of using your brains and enjoying figuring things out.

figure out ways to be a tranny you mean

 

[Desiderius]

Seriously, still no Quick Study exploit? There is no reason to play Arcanist.

Spontaneous Metamagic without Full Action.

 

[Desiderius]

Athletic checks are killing me in Ch.2

D:

Pets are good for Athletics

 

[Desiderius]

Man the trap wires are next level in the Leper Cave. You have to fight the boss (which lets buffs run out) to get to last section.

 

[Saravan]

Sad,they made the storyteller in to a fag too...also his story is pretty shit,now he is just shitty useless "relic" spawner.

LGBT propaganda is really stong in this game. Not to mention that writing is on fanfic levels.

The plus side is you won't feel bad for playing Azata as a pure martial (works well for my build). Turns the story into an anime, but if the story is already shit, who the fuck cares.

Imagine me sitting there pre-launch thinking "yeah I'm gonna go Angel instead of Azata for roleplay purposes and get a good crusader story" .

 

[LannTheStupid]

it appears bioware's only sin was not moving their headquarters to eastern europe, then they'd be rpgcodex's golden child

They will be indeed, because I do not remember EA offices in Russia, and without EA we might still have had Bioware.

 

[Reinhardt]

So today i will see dreaded gargoyles myself.

 

[smaug]

Ahhhh yes

cutscene and then spawn a bunch of highDMG enemies around the player

 

[The_Mask]

a good crusader story

In all honesty, other than Regill, there are no real crusaders.

 

[Reinhardt]

Ahhhh yes

cutscene and then spawn a bunch of highDMG enemies around the player

You mean you don't even need to CHARGE! and can just cut them down right on spot? Where is the catch?

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

I'm all for being rewarded for running errands, but permanent Haste for the Garrison dungeon might have been a little too much? I'm fairly new to the system, I just read skill descriptions and do some basic math, so Core felt nicely challenging in some areas. And then I kinda just stampeded through everyone in Garrison. I might have stopped to throw some alchemical fire on the locust at one point.

It's such a massive power multiplier that I have to wonder why it's even there, and how does the whole thing feel without it.

 

[Saravan]

they made the storyteller in to a fag

lol you're kidding me. Owltranny just keeps getting worse and worse.

Your allies are falling to the gameplay one by one like leaves in the wind torn from a great tree. Would you be the one not to fall, or the last? We even have Princess Volourn now. Your case is doomed.

This is the problem with you retards. Because you act like a group with your fanatical attitude towards the game defending every aspect of it regardless of how shitty it is you think everyone else who DARES to criticize the game also acts like some consorted group when we are all just random individuals with our own unique experience.

And why is the counter argument always this low IQ take on skill?

Explain to me how pozzed writing and companion design relates exactly to "failing game mechanics". Please enlighten me as well how the barebone, repetitive and boring crusader system relates exactly to "failing game mechanics"? Fucking Owlcat cult. I bought the game, I'm enjoying it for its strengths like the combat system but the game is very flawed with regards to other aspects beyond just the combat and build mechanics. A highly rated RPG is well-rounded not incredibly good in one thing and incredibly shitty in another thing.

 

[Shadenuat]

it appears bioware's only sin was not moving their headquarters to eastern europe, then they'd be rpgcodex's golden child

They will be indeed, because I do not remember EA offices in Russia, and without EA we might still have had Bioware.

Considering 2 of bioware mains were 1 ukranian and 1 polish (or 2 ukranians) (descendants of immigrants? check their family names) it would be just returning back lol.

People in eastern europe joke about bioware calling them "canadian hohols".