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Interview PC users won't be getting Witcher DLC

mondblut

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DarkUnderlord said:
Apparently they love PCs and are fully committed to them... Just not enough to give you the better version of the game with its improved quality visuals, "more immersive" combat, enhanced AI, more and better animations, new content...

Do you really want another Enhanced "but it's not a GOTY" Enhanced "but it's more than a patch yet it's free" Edition?

If they are intent on rehashing same old game over and over, they'd better do it for different platforms. At least we the PC-centric folks won't have to endure the same hype-rants as much as before.
 

Elwro

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mahdi said:
Jaime Lannister said:
Take notes, kids. CDP is textbook for "how to start a game company from scratch"

1. Find a niche (Polish cunts)
2. Expand said niche (Polilsh cunts without high-end PCs)
3. ???
4. Profit!

Fixed.
A fellow patriot? Don't we have enough Polish people here already?
 

pkt-zer0

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DarkUnderlord said:
Better yet, why can't they put these improvements in a decent expansion pack and make something worth buying rather than just re-releasing the same god-damned game again?
Hint: they're working on that, and it's going to be called "The Witcher 2".
 

Herbert West

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Volourn said:
"So we give them our cash after hearing that we - as PC gamers - are their priority - their single target audience - not the console crowd, yet now that they've gone public and started making money we're not the focus - because obviously our money isn't "enough" for them. Who is greedy now"

HAHA! You sound like the xbox fanboys who whined about ME and JE being ported to PC with improvements. HAHA!

xbox fanboys = PC fanboys

Both groups are pieces of whiny SOZZES.

L0L0L0L0L0LLIP0P

I completely agree with Volourn.

OH NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
 

android

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DarkUnderlord said:
Though I do find it odd that for all their talk about how much they love PCs and PC gaming isn't dead, they turn around and give the best version of the game to consoles. I guess that's love for you.
WTF are you talking about? They're dumbing down the combat and porting it to consoles, for obvious reasons their PR won't call it like that.

In general, however, players' manual abilities will more strongly affect the outcome of fights.
That is what you call "the best version"?
 

Risine

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Congratulations CD projekt for this game, and for the enhanced edition, few publishers and developers care that much about their players, taking the risk to invest so much on a game already sold.
And who cares if you make it on console, as long as you do not follow the path of Bioware and Betesd???ha ( never know how to write that ) and use this upcoming cash for The witcher 2 on PC.
 

SpaceKungFuMan

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DU - I'm still waiting for you to name another "patch" that featured a rewritten script (I don't care if you like, it, they did rewrite it) and rerecorded dialog.
 

Wyrmlord

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About the ME and JE ports...

Alot of people on Bioware forums ACTUALLY BOUGHT A CONSOLE just to play those games. That was the level of their Bioware fanboyism.

They did so on the understanding that those were "exclusives", hence would not come to PCs.

I can just imagine how full of embarassment and rage they were when they found out it was coming to PC. Believe me, alot of them had no interest in other XBox games in the first place.

See, the moderator there, LdyShyana, she is known for making alot of anti-XBox comments, talking about how much she dislikes the games on it. Funnily enough, on being asked why she bought an XBox in the first place, it turns out she bought it just to play Jade Empire.

Just to play Jade Empire.

Did so with full pride, as if that is the only good reason to buy an XBox. Amusing that there are people who buy consoles just to play one game.
 

aries202

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I still don't quite understand why some of you won't let the console crowd have a decent RPG or game to play ? The Witcher, even on consoles, have Choice&Consequence, a good compelling, interesting gameplay, a unique combat system...

I can sort of understand why some you dislike console games, but The Witcher is The Witcher on any platform, be it PC, PS3 or Xbox 360. My take on this is that you should be happy that console crowd is getting a decent RPG/game to play.

I also don't understand why people buy a console just to buy one game, and one game only be it Mass Effect, Jade Empire or Resistance: Fall of Man. I wouldn't do it myself. And haven't done it.

As for DLC on The Witcher for the PC; I for one don't need. We have user made content on the PC, that's enough for me.
 

RainSong

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DarkUnderlord said:
I want developers to (...)
I want developers to (...)
I want developers to (...)

I want more developers to acknowledge things that aren't bugs but ''mediacore design choices'' (fe. inventory system), listen to their customers and after 12 months of hard work of redoing things that every other company wouldn't even consider touching again (hey! it works doesn't it?), give those fruits of 12 months of working for free.

also I want to know since when ''console version'' is ''superior version'' in your dictionary (I fought that you liked turnbase combat, not a buttonmashing. Mayby you should go play Fable 2, probably it will be the ultimate rpg experience for you).

now find out the better version of the game is still coming out later anyway. Why couldn't they get this stuff right the first time?

first, it's a "consolised version", not a "better version", if in future they will release their titles first on consoles you will wish they worked so hard to port it to pc's instead of dumping some half baked shit like most developers do. Again CDP sets standards for companies that are in this business for years. How dare they!!!

and second, TW was in progress for something around 5 years (in this time the whole plot, engine and many other things were tottally re done/changed, so actually CDP gaved what you ask for, but back to the point), 5 years of development for a polish company that don't have any expirience in it, is a hole lot of time/money. how fucking dumb have you be to ask them to work 2 more years on it? (and no, it wasn't unfinished, kotor2 was unfinished, TW was a polished product on the release date considering other companies standards it was _very polished_ product])

Better yet, why can't they put these improvements in a decent expansion pack and make something worth buying rather than just re-releasing the same god-damned game again?

take notes: it's better to pay for stuff then get it for free. got it.

So what you're really saying is that CD Projekt over-hype their game just like any other developer.

you are absolutely right!!! a polish developer who spend around 10 milionów dollars (record in poland) on their title and bond their future with "one foot in grave'' atari, hyped TW like shit. you couldn't go to a single site and don't get hit in your face with some kind of advertisement of their title. dream on.

the truth is almost "nobody" heard about the game before it's release (I remember that all of the vids at gametrailers about TW had something around 1m hits before release, 1m hits is a number that first trailer of CoD4 had at the time). but you don't have to believe me, just go to TW forum and search for a topic titled something like "how did you find out about tw".

if I had to take a wild gues, I'd say that cdp/atari spend less cash on the whole advertisement then the big meinstrim titles get to spend a month.

If so, then at what point do we get to treat them like we do any other developer?

let's see, a new developer that released a solid rpg, that was "hyped'' for it's c&c, the same company that is responsible for GoG, and is known for one of the best approaches to their customers... I'd say let's wait for their next title, maybe (cross your fingers DU) it will suck and you'll have some real reasons to bitch about.
 

The Ticktockman

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Again DU, you expect them to keep giving you more free things. For some reason, you think this console release is for you, and you are offended you will have to pay for it? It is for console players, not you.

There is nothing wrong with improving on a game when porting it over.

Like I've said before, if the situation was reversed, and they were porting a game from console to PC, people would be pissed off if they didn't improve the game for the port.

Oh, and of course the game can be improved. Any game out there could continue to be improved over time. If game companies waited until a game was perfect before releasing it, none would ever be made.

Finally: lulz, DU love the Witcher and has played the original and enhanced version. He hates it so much he plays it twice.
 

MetalCraze

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Yeah Ticktockman is right - we must pay for bugfixes, because we were too greedy and wanted CDP to fix their game for free (like all other devs do and somehow without retarded patch marketing campaigns) - and that is too much to ask!
 

Turok

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DarkUnderlord said:
Turok said:
But people, seriusly what you expect from a interview?? you want then say "we are just making the same pc game to the console" or "we are just making a version of the game with a new combat system that sux", anyone remember the "hype" ??? if you want sell you need make it look nice to the audience (bicheda)
So what you're really saying is that CD Projekt over-hype their game just like any other developer. If so, then at what point do we get to treat them like we do any other developer? When do they no longer "deserve our support" for releasing buggy games on day one and hyping them to death? Then hyping the fact they released a patch?
Turok said:
PS: i just make another account, i cant remember what email i use for my old account here.
If you want your old account, PM me the username and I'll look into it.

Remember the new target is console, to aproach then is diferent than pc consumers, those guys buy a game if it look good and the combat work perfect in their pads, cdproject is just making clear that the combat system is going to change so they just show that the new game is not the same on pc, is not using aurora engine from bioware, no point click combat (that lot people complaint about, but i really like it). Just read the forum on gamestrailers and you will see whats their target, bunch of kids that just try to see the skirt of a girl anime on the xbox or ps3... they dont hype on pc but on console you will see...

My old name was supposed to be "Drakehash"
 

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SpaceKungFuMan said:
DU - I'm still waiting for you to name another "patch" that featured a rewritten script (I don't care if you like, it, they did rewrite it) and rerecorded dialog.

The Fall - Last days of Gaia

4 years ago they patched the game with an 1 GB patch that included completely new voice overs, rewritten script, new quests and new areas.

Unlike TW the new voices were better than the old ones.

http://www.the-fall.com/d/index.php?menu=downloads&down=patches
 

Drakron

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Enhanced Edition was not a patch, the last patch was 1.3 that fixed most issues and that come out well before EE.

Altering the inventory is not "patching" the game.
 

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Dicksmoker said:
DU and skyway are in reality the same person.

This massive amount of vile stubborness would create a black hole that sucked all reason out of the Codex' reality.

This can't be as it obiviously hasn't happened. Oh, wait ...
 

Volourn

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"the truth is almost "nobody" heard about the game before it's release"

Absolutely bullshit. TW was hyped a great deal pre release. Even years before it came out even. Even BIO hyped it for them. Dumbass.
 
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Volourn said:
"the truth is almost "nobody" heard about the game before it's release"

Absolutely bullshit. TW was hyped a great deal pre release. Even years before it came out even. Even BIO hyped it for them. Dumbass.

I completely agree with Volourn.

OH NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

It wasn't an obscure game pre-release.
 

The Ticktockman

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skyway said:
Yeah Ticktockman is right - we must pay for bugfixes, because we were too greedy and wanted CDP to fix their game for free (like all other devs do and somehow without retarded patch marketing campaigns) - and that is too much to ask!

The Witcher: Enhanced Edition update was free.
 

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You mean patch 1.4? Patch 1.4 was free (and useless*).
Free like all patches. That is the norm since forever.

Patch 1.5 that is Console Edition will be the first useful TW patch that will actually fix issues besides the ones that non-existent QA of CDP didn't notice so they beta-tested the game on us. And OH SNAP PC gamers won't get the -normal- TW. Well like that CDP PR guy said the other day - "we gave TW gamers what they deserve".

*But omg they re-recorded Engrish VOs that they fucked up themselves and even dared to release in that state - let's all praise CDP for fixing issues that were never meant to be there. Instead of... you know... hiring some QA besides end-user.
 

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@skyway: wrong, it was atari who made english VO and fucked up, polish version is very nice.

also, maybe cdp is as bad as you say, but at least they aren't as shitty as troika who throw at their customers piles of bugs and flows that they called rpgs and didn't even care to try and patch them. troika hated their customers so much that they choose to go bankrupt instead of providing some support.

so good that they are no more.
 

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RainSong said:
@skyway: wrong, it was atari who made english VO and fucked up, polish version is very nice.

also, maybe cdp is as bad as you say, but at least they aren't as shitty as troika who throw at their customers piles of bugs and flows that they called rpgs and didn't even care to try and patch them. troika hated their customers so much that they choose to go bankrupt instead of providing some support.

so good that they are no more.
ohshit
 

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