Interview PC users won't be getting Witcher DLC

[racofer]

@skyway: wrong, it was atari who made english VO and fucked up, polish version is very nice.

also, maybe cdp is as bad as you say, but at least they aren't as shitty as troika who throw at their customers piles of bugs and flows that they called rpgs and didn't even care to try and patch them. troika hated their customers so much that they choose to go bankrupt instead of providing some support.

so good that they are no more.

Intense!

Look at me, I piss at Troika's grave, cuz I are teh rebelz!!!1 SCREW YOU HIVEMIND!

 

[MetalCraze]

@skyway: wrong, it was atari who made english VO and fucked up

CDP perfectly knew that english VOs are fucked up - or will you say that CDP never had any role in the making of the english (and the most wide-spread in the world) localization? It also took 6 months of complaints from english gamers to make them move.

also, maybe cdp is as bad as you say, but at least they aren't as shitty as troika who throw at their customers piles of bugs and flows that they called rpgs and didn't even care to try and patch them.

Yet Troika's piles of bugs rape everything in TW content/gameplay/story/character/etc-wise. Even if you will remove the bugged/non-working content from f.e. Arcanum - the remaining content will make TW look like 5 hours long CoD4 compared to ~20 hrs long HL1.
Also Troika were making different games, while CDP continues to milk the very same game. Not even franchise but game (EA surely has something to learn here)

troika hated their customers so much that they choose to go bankrupt instead of providing some support.

so good that they are no more.

I completely agree - we can finally have low standards and enjoy shit games.

 

[Fat Dragon]

troika hated their customers so much that they choose to go bankrupt instead of providing some support.

Troika wanted to please their customers so much that some continued to work on a Bloodlines patch for three weeks or so without pay.

 

[Silellak]

DU - I'm still waiting for you to name another "patch" that featured a rewritten script (I don't care if you like, it, they did rewrite it) and rerecorded dialog.

The Fall - Last days of Gaia

4 years ago they patched the game with an 1 GB patch that included completely new voice overs, rewritten script, new quests and new areas.

Unlike TW the new voices were better than the old ones.

http://www.the-fall.com/d/index.php?menu=downloads&down=patches

On a tangent - is The Fall any good?

 

[DarkUnderlord]

DU - I'm still waiting for you to name another "patch" that featured a rewritten script (I don't care if you like, it, they did rewrite it) and rerecorded dialog.

Obsidian did it a while ago for NWN2. Of course, they got the English version right the first time. All new translated and re-recorded dialogues for Spanish, French and German though. Oh and it was free. And they didn't hype it to the moon and back as an "Enhanced Foreign Language Edition". It was just a patch. And they actually did it while working on some decent new content for the Storm of Zehir expansion pack. Meaning you actually had something decent to buy or if you didn't want that, could just download the patch (without having to re-install Windows or go through a three hour patching process either). Alternatively, CD Projekt were working on the translation anyway for the superior console version.

take notes: it's better to pay for stuff then get it for free. got it.

Obsidian got it right. Work on the patch while you're doing the expansion. Let anyone who doesn't want the expansion download the patch but actually provide a decent amount of new content that's worth buying for those who want it in the expansion. Don't just release the patch, "now with less clown make-up on the girls!" and pretend you're doing anyone a favour.

and second, TW was in progress for something around 5 years (in this time the whole plot, engine and many other things were tottally re done/changed, so actually CDP gaved what you ask for, but back to the point)

Yeah, like Duke Nukem Forever. They've changed engines three times now. So when they release the final game and it still sucks with insane loading times and needs to be patched up the wazoo because they also fucked up the English translation, we'll all praise them for it, right?

... or we'll do what we should be doing, and wonder why it is developers don't test their games and catch these bleeding obvious errors before release. I shouldn't have to buy your game and then wait 1 - 2 years before I get the proper working version.

you are absolutely right!!! a polish developer who spend around 10 milionów dollars (record in poland) on their title and bond their future with "one foot in grave'' atari, hyped TW like shit. you couldn't go to a single site and don't get hit in your face with some kind of advertisement of their title. dream on.

I love how for the past few months all the Witcher fanbois were screaming "FOR FREE!" "FOR FREE!" like a developer ever charged for a patch yet the minute CD Projekt announce they're releasing the superior version of the game and you have to pay for it again... Oh, well, uhhh, they deserve the money! They spent a lot on the game so we should just hand over them our bank account details!

 

[St. Toxic]

Hang on, isn't The Witcher an Enchanced Edition of Ultima IX?

 

[RainSong]

Yet Troika's piles of bugs rape everything in TW content/gameplay/story/character/etc-wise.

hmmm, no.

if you will remove the bugged/non-working content from Arcanum

you'll recive first ever rpg without combat.

Also Troika were making different games, while CDP continues to milk the very same game.

just w8 and see.

I completely agree - we can finally have low standards and enjoy shit games.

wut? what are you talking about? teh "low standards piles of shit'' died with troika. since then we entered the bright future of new age companies like cdp with their polished products that reach perfection with enchance editions (for free!!!)

 

[racofer]

Try harder, we ain't giving you Dumbfuck for so little.

 

[St. Toxic]

you'll recive first ever rpg without combat.

Sounds like an improvement.

just w8

For the Ultra-Extreme Enlightened Increased boob-size Super Duper Edition?

wut? what are you talking about? teh "low standards piles of shit'' died with troika. since then we entered the bright future of new age companies like cdp with their polish products that reach perfection with enchance editions (for free!!!)

Poland is the nation equivalent of "low standard piles of shit".

On another note, the EE made my copy of TW unplayable, which retrospectively might as well be considered as "reaching perfection".

 

[Turok]

All of you forget the game, why?? because the damn game spoil all the damn 7 books, you know what happen to me when i am still waiting for the release of the book 7, i already read 6 books, play the game and found that even the barkeepers give you full story about the last book and what happen to ciri and the other important ppl on the books (like the dead of the vampire that help geralt, HE IS ALIVE IN THE BOOK 6!!!! fuk fuk).

The books >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the game, forget the game get the books in spanish :D

 

[MetalCraze]

Rainsong is just trolling. He can't be that stupid (can he?)

 

[St. Toxic]

forget the game

I support this notion.

 

[RainSong]

take notes: it's better to pay for stuff then get it for free. got it.

Obsidian got it right. Work on the patch while you're doing the expansion. Let anyone who doesn't want the expansion download the patch but actually provide a decent amount of new content that's worth buying for those who want it in the expansion. Don't just release the patch, "now with less clown make-up on the girls!" and pretend you're doing anyone a favour.

isn't it obvious to you that cdp is working on an expansion for TW and that they will provide all the improvements from the EE in it?

and second, TW was in progress for something around 5 years (in this time the whole plot, engine and many other things were tottally re done/changed, so actually CDP gaved what you ask for, but back to the point)

Yeah, like Duke Nukem Forever. They've changed engines three times now. So when they release the final game and it still sucks with insane loading times and needs to be patched up the wazoo because they also fucked up the English translation, we'll all praise them for it, right?

did I say that they deserve praise for it? I just said that your common sense should tell you that a little, inexperienced company cant develope a game forever.

you are absolutely right!!! a polish developer who spend around 10 milionów dollars (record in poland) on their title and bond their future with "one foot in grave'' atari, hyped TW like shit. you couldn't go to a single site and don't get hit in your face with some kind of advertisement of their title. dream on.

I love how for the past few months all the Witcher fanbois were screaming "FOR FREE!" "FOR FREE!" like a developer ever charged for a patch yet the minute CD Projekt announce they're releasing the superior version of the game and you have to pay for it again... Oh, well, uhhh, they deserve the money! They spent a lot on the game so we should just hand over them our bank account details!

wtf are you talking about? you quote me talking about pre release advertisement and answer with some free patch bullshit? what patch? you mean EE? EE is not a patch. patches dont get reviews. deal with it. the same goes for the bullshit about ''superior verion'' superior my ass dumbed down pile of shit.

 

[RainSong]

you'll recive first ever rpg without combat.

Sounds like an improvement.

yup, unfortunately the old farts from troika cant do shit now, but don't worry, just after the release of TW I've given such a proposition in ''what would you like in tw2" official thread, so there is still hope

just w8

For the Ultra-Extreme Enlightened Increased boob-size Super Duper Edition?

if that's what you call a sequel in your parts.

wut? what are you talking about? teh "low standards piles of shit'' died with troika. since then we entered the bright future of new age companies like cdp with their polish products that reach perfection with enchance editions (for free!!!)

Poland is the nation equivalent of "low standard piles of shit".

nope, that's India with their Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods aka it's so bad even ign notice it.

Try harder, we ain't giving you Dumbfuck for so little.

first give some deserved Bitcher tag and then you cant take care of me.

 

[racofer]

Alright then, ask DU and he might give you a Bitcher tag.

 

[St. Toxic]

yup, unfortunately the old farts from troika cant do shit now, but don't worry, just after the release of TW I've given such a proposition in ''what would you like in tw2" official thread, so there is still hope

If TW didn't have combat, it'd just be a "running back and forth between dickhead npc's all day" simulator. Oh yeah, and where would I get my "20 buckets of zombie piss" for generic kill/fetch quest 204?

if that's what you call a sequel in your parts.

Did you parents have any children that lived? I bet they regret that. Gosh.

nope, that's India with their Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods aka it's so bad even ign notice it.

The latest in cRPG's

 

[RainSong]

Alright then, ask DU and he might give you a Bitcher tag.

I said deserved

 

[racofer]

Yes you do.

 

[RainSong]

yup, unfortunately the old farts from troika cant do shit now, but don't worry, just after the release of TW I've given such a proposition in ''what would you like in tw2" official thread, so there is still hope

If TW didn't have combat, it'd just be a "running back and forth between dickhead npc's all day" simulator.

decide your mind if rpg with little to no combat is improvement or not

if that's what you call a sequel in your parts.

Did you parents have any children that lived? I bet they regret that. Gosh.

I sense some negative emotions

nope, that's India with their Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods aka it's so bad even ign notice it.

The latest in cRPG's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUQwYL72rs

 

[St. Toxic]

decide your mind if rpg with little to no combat is improvement or not

That's just the thing, asshelmet. TW is C&C lite. It's more of a singleplayer mmo than a crpg. If you drop the combat, what you're left with can't be called a game. It'd be an improvement in Arcanum or Bloodlines, but there's nothing else in TW besides combat and combat-related tasks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUQwYL72rs

PCF gets my seal of approval, hence they can't really be native to Poland.

 

[Al3xand3r]

All you whiny bitches would HATE them for months and months prior to release if you had heard they were making a PC RPG which was claiming to be true to its name (RPG) and yet were including things like third person "immersive" action based combat which has you doing all the dodges and what not as opposed to your character's statistics. And now that they gave us a proper PC RPG with all the point and click and stats one wants, you whine because console versions get a different combat system which fits their platform? Of course they do, otherwise it would fai 100%l.

And no, I don't want it brought to PC via DLC, free or not. No thanks. The current combat system is fine. And we still have the superior version despite lacking nay graphical "updates" they pimp for their console version because, guess what, we have the friggin campaign editor and a community that puts out some decent fan content. Fuck.

I can't believe some of you even whine about the enhanced edition. It's FUCKING FREE, if you have so much to whine about it, DON'T DOWNLOAD IT. You blame them for wanting extra hype because of it? God, yes, shame on fucking THEM for wanting to create good games and support them appropriately to have a long shelf life, as opposed to creating non-niche games that have the chane to sell GREAT on the mainstream over a weekend and then disappear while the developers go to Hawai for holidays. Fuck. You.

And yes, they deserve the money from the console version. Not from me or whoever bought it for the PC obviously, but from console users. That's the point of creating it as a console game with console combat, etc etc. To get their money. If you want to be one of them, why were you ever a PC gamer? Tough fucking luck.

PS: None of you would play any of the RPGs you love had they had no combat. Well, maybe planescape torment. But then you might as well read a book instead. If all these games are so horrible then why the fuck are you guys RPG fans who frequent and/or run an RPG fansite? It seems that only one or two titles are actually worthy according to your oh so rational standards. That doesn't make you RPG fans, it's only by chance that any game at all you like was ever created.

 

[racofer]

Good games are timeless, despite patching or whatnot. The "Boobage" Witcher isn't.

 

[RainSong]

asshelmet.

nice

TW is C&C lite. It's more of a singleplayer mmo than a crpg. If you drop the combat, what you're left with can't be called a game.

wow you must really hate adventure games

ok it' 3 a.m. gotta run.

ps. don't hate me because some of you failed your saving throws :wink:

 

[racofer]

TW is C&C lite. It's more of a singleplayer mmo than a crpg. If you drop the combat, what you're left with can't be called a game.

wow you must really hate adventure games

Rainsong is just trolling. He can't be that stupid (can he?)

Yes, he can.

 

[St. Toxic]

wow you must really hate adventure games

Yes, because there sure was alot of adventuring and puzzles done in TW. Running between several flagged npc's, triggering them unintelligently and wading through compulsory combat sections in between. About as deep as a glass of water. The side dish was collecting monster parts and killing specific monsters. YEEHAW. So remove combat, and you're left with... running between flagged npc's, and nothing else.

PS: None of you would play any of the RPGs you love had they had no combat. Well, maybe planescape torment. But then you might as well read a book instead.

Sort of like a GTA game without the guns would be the equivalent of you driving to work on a Tuesday. Bloodlines was swamped with non-skippable combat that the game would do well without, and Arcanum was only slightly the better. I'd love to replay them both as non-combative games, especially if combat was replaced with other forms of problem solving content. In fact, all the rpg's I "loved" would do well with less or no combat, and after I was done playing them I might even read a book.

If all these games are so horrible then why the fuck are you guys RPG fans who frequent and/or run an RPG fansite?

Flawed argument is flawed.

It seems that only one or two titles are actually worthy according to your oh so rational standards. That doesn't make you RPG fans, it's only by chance that any game at all you like was ever created.

"You guys have too high standards, and that makes me mad!"