Permanent Death?

[Alex]

Hello everyone!

I've never been much of an MMO person, but I was always curious about Ultima Online back then. Unfortunately, games seem to have drifted away pretty far from what that was. Still, I was wondering, are there, or at least, were there any sandbox MMOs with permanent player death. That is, once your character died, you would need to make another?

 

[Wilian]

http://www.salemthegame.com/about

That one is the only one I can think of at the moment.

 

[IDtenT]

I need permanent death military sim as much as I need alcohol.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Permanent death in a game relying on PKs, lags and sudden disconnections sounds like a pretty bad idea.

 

[Night Goat]

Wizardly Online. That might not be the only reason it's shutting down, but it can't have helped.

 

[SoupNazi]

Doesn't EVE technically have permadeath if you get podded?

DayZ has permadeath but that's hardly an MMO, let alone an MMORPG.

 

[Morality Games]

Hello everyone!

I've never been much of an MMO person, but I was always curious about Ultima Online back then. Unfortunately, games seem to have drifted away pretty far from what that was. Still, I was wondering, are there, or at least, were there any sandbox MMOs with permanent player death. That is, once your character died, you would need to make another?

Permanent death in a game relying on PKs, lags and sudden disconnections sounds like a pretty bad idea.

The butt hurt would be bad enough when the player's hardware was responsbible, but there would be a massacere whenever server problems caused mass disconnections.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I don't know if it ever got released, but I think that Mortal Online was supposed to have that, as did that other one based out of Greece(?) that was supposed to be a horrible piece of shit, don't remember the name at the moment. I think it was Darkfall.

 

[Wilian]

It didn't have permanent death, only all loot drop on death.

 

[flabbyjack]

Darkfall Online had online had full loot. That's about as close as you're going to get. I find MO to be far more shit than Darkfall. Mortal Online is like a bad Runescape clone

Some MUDs have perma-death, and at least one of them has dozens + online at a time. You should be able to search for permadeath over at mudconnector.com

 

[mediocrepoet]

Oh, my bad.

I don't really play MMOs anymore, I either think they're shit or find them addicting in all the really bad ways and usually start to check out of my life if I do.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Real Life pretty much works like that, but from what I gather it was far more profitable to be a bandit in Ultima Online than in Real Life.

 

[Norfleet]

Are you sure? Being a bandit in UO doesn't sound like it generates all that much profit at all. I mean, I've never heard of anyone running a bank in UO. Remember that guy in EVE who decided to run a bank, and one day, just ran off with the money? Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.

 

[Haba]

Haven & Hearth
http://www.havenandhearth.com/

Example

Every death, 500-1000 hours of grinding.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I'd say Haven & Hearth is a very good example of what you need to make permadeath work:


First, you need to permanently kill all grind from the game.

 

[Black_Willow]

I'd say Haven & Hearth is a very good example of what you need to make permadeath work:


First, you need to permanently kill all fun from the game.

fixed

 

[Bubbles]

Yeah dude, remember which subforum you're in.

burn this place to the ground

 

[St. Toxic]

Are you sure? Being a bandit in UO doesn't sound like it generates all that much profit at all. I mean, I've never heard of anyone running a bank in UO.

PK/Chaos guilds often had fat pockets which technically would allow for banking, but banking would be more of an rp-activity than a reliable way of profiting. Still, pking made tons of profit.

 

[Mangoose]

Remember that guy in EVE who decided to run a bank, and one day, just ran off with the money?

Faith in humanity restored

 

[J1M]

I think the closest you will get is something like that new game, Rust.