KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Base layouts seem to be in, but no base building.

Spoiler

 

[xmd1997]

Base layouts seem to be in, but no base building.

Spoiler

In case anyone's wondering the facilities discovered so far are Fabricator Facility(Reproduces weapons and equipment), Power Generator, Research and Development, Living quarters, Food Production (Generates 8+ Food per day), Satellite Uplink, Training Facility (Soldier's stationed at base gain passive XP), Medical Bay( Treats 2 soldiers at a time), Vehicle bay, Access Lift( Allows Base personnel to evacuate), and Entrance.

 

[The Anus Of Discontent]

Am I the only one still waiting for any details about all those nifty '4x features' that gollop was advertising in the crowdfunding pitch or has that also been scrapped?

 

[thesheeep]

Base layouts seem to be in, but no base building.

Spoiler

Well, to be fair, that DOES look like a placeholder.


.... right?

 

[Thane Solus]

Base layouts seem to be in, but no base building.

Spoiler

Well, to be fair, that DOES look like a placeholder.


.... right?

Lel! What a trainwreck. now i understand why he went on Epic.

 

[Shog-goth]

More base facilities discovered:

 

[Grotesque]

If I see another apple...

More base facilities discovered:

you forgot this facility

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bases suppose to be layered?
I think I read this somewhere

 

[thesheeep]

If I see another apple...

you forgot this facility

You disgust me!

Spoiler

Here's my number....

 

[True Ukrainian]

That facility can only be built after you have completed genome manipulation and inter-species unity research.

 

[mwnn85]

Don't know how the EPIC deal affects the cross platform support?
The EPIC store doesn't even function on Linux; most available games rely on the STEAM runtime environment.
Will the EPIC store client just be used to deliver the game files? ( like STEAM does with Underrail )
Perhaps it's all canceled? Windows only now? DRM up the wazoo?

If I was a backer, I think I'd just rather get my money back in full.
Wait for a year, buy the whole updated game - it'll be discounted by that point anyway.
Assuming Julian doesn't move the goalposts again regarding GOG & STEAM.

They say there's only two bad buyers - those who pay in full up front and those who don't pay at all!
I still think the game has promise; the battles are far better than what we saw in nuXCOM.

 

[Stavrophore]

Heavy cannon and destruction physics looks sweet as hell.

 

[geno]

Some dev told that destruction physics are a placeholder in this build. If you can trust them.

 

[Grotesque]

game has promise

so what were the chances for me to skip exactly where Gollop says "SHIT!"?
because it happened

 

[mwnn85]

game has promise

so what were the chances for me to skip exactly where Gollop says "SHIT!"?
because it happened

Only just getting the chance to watch the whole thing now ~36 minute mark for some amusement
Julian's quite funny really - just comes right out with it. Rather deadpan.
Doesn't seem to like the interviewer at all or have much patience for his stupid comments.
Looks like a chap who knows exactly the kind of game he wishes to make - whether we all like it or not.

I still believe we'll end with up a very decent game here.
The EPIC store exclusive business is shit. The loss of Linux support is really shit for me - WINE worked on an older backer build last time I tried it.
They claim the game will still be DRM free - just using the EPIC client to download it - have to wait and see if that changes.

I think it'll be quite challenging when all the aliens start mutating and combining.
The inventory looks like it's changed over to a grid. Those adjustable overwatch fire cones are perfect now.
Pretty sure the red sight lines (when choosing where to move) aren't new but it's still a clever touch.

Gonna grab backer build 4 from a certain russian site and have a go of it.
I can see lots of improvements over the older build where you just fought the queen over and over.
Must've struck a bloody good deal to stick two fingers up at most people who pre-ordered.

 

[CyberWhale]

Now that is one ugly and godawful designed vehicle. Why put it on 4 separate tracks, so that more things can go wrong with it? And you raise the whole thing up so that it's easier to shot at? And why the fuck is there a goddamn spoiler on a fucking tracked tank?!

2008 is calling and it wants its graphics back.

 

[thesheeep]

Now that is one ugly and godawful designed vehicle. Why put it on 4 separate tracks, so that more things can go wrong with it? And you raise the whole thing up so that it's easier to shot at? And why the fuck is there a goddamn spoiler on a fucking tracked tank?!

2008 is calling and it wants its graphics back.

I bet you'd love it if they added shoulder pads.

 

[CyberWhale]

It already has them.

 

[thesheeep]

Then they must become bigger.

 

[CyberWhale]

I was talking about the vehicle.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

That too.

 

[GrainWetski]

Looks like a chap who knows exactly the kind of game he wishes to make - whether we all like it or not.

If FiraXCOM really is what he wanted to make all along, X-COM was a fucking miracle.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

well, you know the story about microprose trying the prototype and meddling "this is too simple, you need to add stuff on top of this"...

 

[mwnn85]

Looks like a chap who knows exactly the kind of game he wishes to make - whether we all like it or not.

If FiraXCOM really is what he wanted to make all along, X-COM was a fucking miracle.

I just think his tastes have possibly changed/softened over the years and he's probably a realist.
If you listen to the XCOM postmortem he seems to dislike the man management aspects and a few other things I see as strengths.

He's done the niche stuff like Laser Squad Nemesis, Rebelstar: Tactical Command (GBA) even Chaos Reborn.
All decent games, had a dedicated following but none were massive hits.
Chaos Reborn's ~100k owners vs nuXCOM's 2-5 million.

I can't blame him for wanting a decent game which mixes in some nuXCOM, oldXCOM, perhaps sell it on PC & console and possibly hit the big time at last.
If this ends up being about as good as Silent Storm then I'll be quite happy with it.
Manual aiming, non-vanishing shots and those nice fire cones already make it a 10x better wargame than the Firaxis effort.
I don't know what the Geoscape will ultimately turn out like but the Battlescape certainly works well in Backer Beta 4.
Perhaps they could add fog of war?
Pretty sure this won't be shit like Wasteland 2 or Battletech.

I'm not even sure if XCOM & TFTD can really be improved; when I play OpenXcom I don't feel it's missing anything.
So why bother making a clone of it? If I want to play the original then I'll just fire it up instead.
Nick Gollop never gets a mention either - where is the guy? Must exist somewhere...

 

[Alienman]

You might not be able to improve further on OpenXcom, but X-com Apocalypse though! (which is one of his inspirations). Unfortunately, it looks incredible bland so far. I don't see much hope for it. Looks like a worse version of everything, worse than nuXcom, nothing like the original, and if you want faction and better world/city interaction you can't go wrong with Apocalypse...

It will probably be better than Enforcer though

 

[Grotesque]

So why bother making a clone of it?

oh, this discussion again.

when I play OpenXcom I don't feel it's missing anything.

You feel it's not missing anything because you never experienced something better in all departments over the original/first x-com experience.

An x-com game experience worthy of Gollop's name would be an x-com base game on steroids, with all its original flair and features but taken to a next level and with another lair of gameplay ramifications and elaboration that feels organically evolved and not tacked on.
Of course there would be retards then even this would consider a clone of the original and even more retards that would consider this kind of game too hard to grasp.
And Gollop wants money or his tastes changed the same way Ridley Scott's taste changed ( aka decrepit) , see Prometheus.



And an x-com game is not just shooting lasers on the combat map to kill aliens.
An x-com game is also concerning if you have room in base storage for looted equipment, how many hours an aircraft can patrol a certain area depending on its fuel reserve and wondering if researching a certain shit would be lucrative on long term and molded on your play style.
I laugh at people that think that if the demo tactical layer is good, we'll have a good x-com style game because of that.