KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

[razvedchiki]

get them from where?
just found a technician from a random event and he sits useless in my base doing nothing. same with the stealthy synedrion class.
i dont raid.

 

[Jaedar]

So how does this game work, exactly?

How is ammo consumption calculated? Feels like sometimes it's counting per bullet, other times I am asked to replenish after firing one shot. I wouldn't mind, except I am quite literally at 0 materials.
How is "items will be recovered automatically at end of mission" work? Because I went through like 7 bandits, and recovered 0 bandit weapons/ammo at the end and I know there were loot icons on the battlefield, but I ignored since the mission briefing implied I'd get them automatically.
Why is Synedrion hiding (( they don't seem to have a single base in all of asia.
How does research work? Sometimes after mission/exploration I'll get Research +500 but it is very unclear what this actually means, and how much additional labs speed things up.

I'm starting to feel I went way too heavy on opening new bases/research as I am mostly out of useful things to research and can't build anything. I especially regret buying a rocket vehicle instead of a 2nd skyranger. Rocket vehicle is cool and all, but it steals xp and takes up a lot of space.

 

[razvedchiki]

Why is Synedrion hiding (( they don't seem to have a single base in all of asia.

its bad RNG, in my current playthrough jericho spawned on the other side of the globe leaving me without the ability to recruit techs.

How does research work? Sometimes after mission/exploration I'll get Research +500 but it is very unclear what this actually means, and how much additional labs speed things up.

it adds up to your current research project, though i have seen numbers up to 150.
definetely build research labs when you have the materials, you need better weapons to pen mutated pandorians.

the vehicle is nice to have, but yea at the start its better to get another plane.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

rocket vehicle is how you i-win up to middle game.

 

[ArchAngel]

get them from where?
just found a technician from a random event and he sits useless in my base doing nothing. same with the stealthy synedrion class.
i dont raid.

Did he come with 1 or 2 turrets? When you hire some from NJ they usually come with at least one turret. You need to place turrets into global inventory and then reverse engineer option will appear.
Other options is to get NJ to 50 reputation and do their mission, then you will get a lot of their tech.
But even without turrets you can give them some armor, and grenades or GL or a melee weapon (none of these care about proficiency) and a bunch of medkits and use them in battle. They can use medkits for 1 AP. And if you got a vehicle they can use their lvl 3 ability on that to give it extra actions.

 

[Nortar]

So how does this game work, exactly?

How is ammo consumption calculated? Feels like sometimes it's counting per bullet, other times I am asked to replenish after firing one shot. I wouldn't mind, except I am quite literally at 0 materials.
How is "items will be recovered automatically at end of mission" work?

It counts bullets per burst.
So if you have a shotgun with Burst 10 and a magazine that holds 50 rounds, it means you can shoot it 5 times.
When you replenish a half-empty gun in Personal management screen, the ejected magazine is placed in your storage.
But if you reload it in the field, any remaining ammo seem to be lost, which makes sense.

As for recovering items, in those rare cases the enemies drop anything it all, it's mostly crap like ammunition for weapons you don't have/need.
I wonder if the drop chance could be affected by killing enemies without damaging hands or torso, wherever they carry their stuff.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Spider bots drones.

 

[Jaedar]

It counts bullets per burst.
So if you have a shotgun with Burst 10 and a magazine that holds 50 rounds, it means you can shoot it 5 times.
When you replenish a half-empty gun in Personal management screen, the ejected magazine is placed in your storage.

Yeah but what I mean is that after very mission now, the game goes "please replenish your heavy weapon ammo", even though I fired only half a clip. At the same time, the bandit sniper and his rifle saw his ammo count deplete between missions, and no automatic reloading or anything between.

As for recovering items, in those rare cases the enemies drop anything it all, it's mostly crap like ammunition for weapons you don't have/need.

I have more dudes than guns, also you can salvage stuff. Not to mention stuff like medikits which are always useful in large quantities.

 

[Nortar]

Yeah but what I mean is that after very mission now, the game goes "please replenish your heavy weapon ammo", even though I fired only half a clip. At the same time, the bandit sniper and his rifle saw his ammo count deplete between missions, and no automatic reloading or anything between.

That's because you can't manufacture ammo for those bandit weapons. You either have them or you don't.

 

[Alienman]

Spider bots drones.

Spider bots combined with technician that can remote control

 

[ArchAngel]

Spider bots drones.

Check the price of the ammo..

 

[Hobo Elf]

Can I cross class my starter troops with any of the faction specific classes, or can I only cross from a faction class into assault/heavy/sniper?

 

[razvedchiki]

Did he come with 1 or 2 turrets? When you hire some from NJ they usually come with at least one turret. You need to place turrets into global inventory and then reverse engineer option will appear.
Other options is to get NJ to 50 reputation and do their mission, then you will get a lot of their tech.
But even without turrets you can give them some armor, and grenades or GL or a melee weapon (none of these care about proficiency) and a bunch of medkits and use them in battle. They can use medkits for 1 AP. And if you got a vehicle they can use their lvl 3 ability on that to give it extra actions.

i found him in a random event, and he came naked. jericho havens havent produced any techs yet. even if they do he will come naked because i play in legend.

 

[razvedchiki]

Can I cross class my starter troops with any of the faction specific classes, or can I only cross from a faction class into assault/heavy/sniper?

the later.

 

[Jaedar]

Can I cross class my starter troops with any of the faction specific classes, or can I only cross from a faction class into assault/heavy/sniper?

the later.

It makes the basic classes kinda shitty. A shame the faction ones are so rare.

Managing faction rep seems really important in this, reminds me of Apoc.

 

[ArchAngel]

Did he come with 1 or 2 turrets? When you hire some from NJ they usually come with at least one turret. You need to place turrets into global inventory and then reverse engineer option will appear.
Other options is to get NJ to 50 reputation and do their mission, then you will get a lot of their tech.
But even without turrets you can give them some armor, and grenades or GL or a melee weapon (none of these care about proficiency) and a bunch of medkits and use them in battle. They can use medkits for 1 AP. And if you got a vehicle they can use their lvl 3 ability on that to give it extra actions.

i found him in a random event, and he came naked. jericho havens havent produced any techs yet. even if they do he will come naked because i play in legend.

Even on Legend they come with one or two turrets.

 

[Jaedar]

Can I cross class my starter troops with any of the faction specific classes, or can I only cross from a faction class into assault/heavy/sniper?

the later.

This is a wrong. Once I allied (reached 50 rep) Anu, I got all their tech, including berserker/priest research, and now I can select those when multiclassing. Seems pretty strong!

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

Can I cross class my starter troops with any of the faction specific classes, or can I only cross from a faction class into assault/heavy/sniper?

you can multiclass with whatever class you unlocked, either through research or recruiting.

 

[razvedchiki]

Even on Legend they come with one or two turrets.

just recruited one from jericho, and she doesnt have any turrets.

 

[ArchAngel]

Even on Legend they come with one or two turrets.

just recruited one from jericho, and she doesnt have any turrets.

I guess it is random, I got them with 1 turret. You can check their price, if it is more than just food then check Info button. If they don't have cyber body parts, than that additional cost is the turret.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Is it possible that New Jericho hasn't researched turret-tech yet in that campaign?

 

[razvedchiki]

had a story mission against them and they had techs with robotic arms and turrets.
faction story missions suck ass, just did the synedrion mission at 49 relations and it didnt progress my faction standing at all.
just sent me after a pirate elon musk, ffs JUST GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING TECH.

 

[ArchAngel]

had a story mission against them and they had techs with robotic arms and turrets.
faction story missions suck ass, just did the synedrion mission at 49 relations and it didnt progress my faction standing at all.
just sent me after a pirate elon musk, ffs JUST GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING TECH.

Synderion 50 rep mission is two part.

 

[razvedchiki]

another day, another wipe. ambush 2 flame chirons plus 2 snake women plus the usual lobsters and mr squids. probably would survive if i had prioritise correctly and build the cyber lab earlier.
maybe hero is better after all.

 

[ArchAngel]

another day, another wipe. ambush 2 flame chirons plus 2 snake women plus the usual lobsters and mr squids. probably would survive if i had prioritise correctly and build the cyber lab earlier.
maybe hero is better after all.

That sounds like an Ambush in mist area.