Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Parabalus]

The difference is polytheistic pantheons aren't real irl.

The stories are just as real as PoEs.

 

[Vityaz]

I sure wish we had some real portrait variety.
Like for example, for the male dwarf - 2 out of 3 portraits are already taken by none other than your fucking crew.
Tried to look up some online, but it's all either some generic LOTR shit or midget Danes. Plus the need of a watercoloured version.

Mind you, it's not as bad as in Kingmaker but still....

 

[2house2fly]

It had nothing to do with animancy though, his help to her was therapeutic and understanding. Could be done easily without animancy. Pallegina is also irrational as fuck.

She had a fucked up beak and all kinds of insane bird bullshit going on, he made her look more human

Are you absolutely sure that this is indeed so, and it's not just the unintended that the writing has left you with?

Not quite that unintended, according to the author:

The gods of Eora, including Eothas, are incredibly powerful and stubborn. Being pushed around and ignored by the gods was supposed to feel annoying and irritating, but the resolution to the story wasn't supposed to be unsatisfying. My hope was that the gods' increasing desperation and reliance on the Watcher would give the player a sense of satisfaction and that Eothas' willingness to listen to the Watcher's opinions about how to leave things would give them a sense of place and purpose between Eothas, the gods, and mortals.

The difference is polytheistic pantheons aren't real irl.

Cite your evidence, please.

 

[Lacrymas]

The stories are just as real as PoEs.

The problem is not the stories, but that PoEs world doesn't have the luxury of an absent deity. The only positive thing about the gods in PoE is Skaen and his patronage of the oppressed. Everything else is either cruel (Magran sending a lone priestess against a drake), senseless, pointless and random (Wael), incompetent and ineffectual (DF's entire plot is basically this), out of their control (the Wheel), temporary (animancy can bring them down) and anything you can think of. Thaos' reasoning is speculative fiction at best and psychopathic justifications at worst. They can, however, destroy the world if they deemed it "necessary", as opposed to real life.

 

[Safav Hamon]

There is an absent deity. It's the one true Yezuha God that the Engwithans rejected.

 

[Prime Junta]

Rekke is a monotheist missionary. Mormon, probably.

 

[FreeKaner]

Rekke obviously comes from a land Engwithans haven't touched.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I sure wish we had some real portrait variety.
Like for example for a male dwarf, 2 out of 3 portaits are already taken by none other than your fucking crew.
Tried to look up some online, but it's all either some generic LOTR shit or midget Danes. Plus the need of a watercoloured version.

Mind you, it's not as bad as in Kingmaker but still....

Are you searching for a male dwarf portrait? Vailian or... white-looking?

 

[Safav Hamon]

Rekke obviously comes from a land Engwithans haven't touched.

Don't you think it's a coincidence that Ukaizo's location cuts Yezuha off from the rest of the world? I don't.

The Engwithans built it there to isolate Yezuha, because it's the center of power for the true god.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Are you absolutely sure that this is indeed so, and it's not just the unintended that the writing has left you with?

Not quite that unintended, according to the author:

The gods of Eora, including Eothas, are incredibly powerful and stubborn. Being pushed around and ignored by the gods was supposed to feel annoying and irritating, but the resolution to the story wasn't supposed to be unsatisfying. My hope was that the gods' increasing desperation and reliance on the Watcher would give the player a sense of satisfaction and that Eothas' willingness to listen to the Watcher's opinions about how to leave things would give them a sense of place and purpose between Eothas, the gods, and mortals.

It's a recurring theme in this game's development, the narrative is biting off far more than it can chew... When I see it explained this way I can understand it and spot where they tried to make it work as described, but by playing the game, all I get is the irritation. Either I'm very inept at interpteting, or they are very intept at telling stories and pointing the reader to making the conclusions they wanted him to make.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Rekke obviously comes from a land Engwithans haven't touched.

Don't you think it's a coincidence that Ukaizo's location cuts Yezuha off from the rest of the world? I don't.

The Engwithans built it there to isolate Yezuha, because it's the center of power for the true god.

And "Yezuha" is a stand-in for "Yahweh", and the plot twist is that the Engwithans were trying to isolate the Eoran Jews from the rest of the world. Sawyer's nazism is confirmed.

 

[FreeKaner]

Yezuha = Joshua

 

[Infinitron]

 

[2house2fly]

Don't you think it's a coincidence that Ukaizo's location cuts Yezuha off from the rest of the world? I don't.

The Engwithans built it there to isolate Yezuha, because it's the center of power for the true god.

Some interesting (unreliable narrator) lore in the Forgotten Sanctum regarding this:

"The representatives of two great empires met in the seat of the third, and Engwith, Yezuha, and Ukaizo agreed upon an exchange: for land and power, Ukaizo would give Engwith a home for their research; for able soldiers, Yezuha would allow Engwith to spread their faith. So it was that Ukaizo conquered the Deadfire, the Yezuhans conquered Yeshe, and Engwith made willing conspirators of them all."

"They don't remember us. They were once us, or we were once them. Before the ascension, before the destruction, before the storm. Now we are strangers, our greetings reduced to unintelligible ejaculations of sound.

But they will remember. We will remind them. And we will judge the work they've done in our long absence. They should hope we find it sufficient."

 

[Ramnozack]

Anybody notice Sawyers Islam coffee cup in his twitter profile pic

 

[aweigh]

Justin 'Taco' Bell

 

[FreeKaner]

The ship combat is okay actually.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

The ship combat is okay actually.

I don't know who you are but you need to release real Freekaner from the basement immediately.

 

[vortex]

Ship's combat or any turn-based combat doesn't belong to the game and it should be stripped down for the Ultimate Director's Cut Balanced Edition.

 

[Vityaz]

I sure wish we had some real portrait variety.
Like for example for a male dwarf, 2 out of 3 portaits are already taken by none other than your fucking crew.
Tried to look up some online, but it's all either some generic LOTR shit or midget Danes. Plus the need of a watercoloured version.

Mind you, it's not as bad as in Kingmaker but still....

Are you searching for a male dwarf portrait? Vailian or... white-looking?

Yeah.

I was looking for mostly white looking dwarf male portraits but I am not opposed to other colours at all, if it looks good/non-lore breaking. I wanted to roll a mountain dwarf from Old Vailia this time around.

BTW: I thought there were some white Vailians in the series too? Like that white female dwarf at the VTC HQ?

 

[Prime Junta]

BTW: I thought there were some white Vailians in the series too? Like that white female dwarf at the VTC HQ?

Sure. There are Orlan Rauataians too. People migrate.

 

[Reinhardt]

So now game is fully released it's time for my final playthrough. Any mods i should install before?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

So now game is fully released it's time for my final playthrough. Any mods i should install before?

The turn based one

 

[FreeKaner]

BTW: I thought there were some white Vailians in the series too? Like that white female dwarf at the VTC HQ?

Sure. There are Orlan Rauataians too. People migrate.

Everyone knows people used to just stay wherever they are born and never move before the modern phenomenon of interracial cuckold fetishism.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I don't see anyone mentioning this, but aren't you thrilled about the Forgotten Sanctum loading screen? I mean the artistic level is something unseen even for Deadfire's 2D art.