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Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Infinitron

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Did you ever ask about this?
Yeah, no response. I guess he doesn't see much point in replying to endless griping about engagement at this point. I guess we'll have to see what feedback they take in after release and if things are changed in the sequel.
 
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In the "normal" model of manufacturing, developers aren't involved. This is a "new" model where we are now in charge of it.

I think, and I may be wrong here, this didn't become an issue till it became clear that the disc we were going to send to manufacturing would conflict with our promise of a DRM free disc. That's why we talked about what we did for South Park, as an example. South Park is not DRM free,

I don't have all the details - and at this point the WHY the problem occurred is secondary to the solution,yes?

I am confused. Will the disc or the disc version of the game be DRM free or not?
 
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Lol, I love how the dude barely even mentions that it's not a review of a final product, but of a backer beta not indicative of final product in many (most) ways.

New level in gaymjournalist integrity?

Upd: yeah, in the very end he does mention it -_-
 

Anthony Davis

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Someone on the Obsidian forums PM'd me this today: http://gamecloud.net.au/featured/pillars-of-eternity-first-impressions

:troll:

"It wasn't me"

What a complete tool. I weep for the future.

He doesn't seem to be very observant either - the reputation level is right there on that party screen.

I wonder how old the version of the game is that he is playing. On that now, how did he even get the game?

For example, I have TWO versions of the game on my Steam account. The Backer Beta, which is updated infrequently, and the internal Beta which is updated daily. I'm guessing by his general cluelessness that he isn't a backer, and he doesn't work at Obsidian so.... where did he get it?

Someone sweet talk him for the build number on the title screen - that will at least tell me how old the build is.

EDIT: He also said he installed the game. Well there aren't any disks yet, and you don't have to do anything if you got it through Steam so I'm guessing he torrented a very old copy.
 

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To me it looks like a hastily made article of someone who was pissed at the whole "we aren't sending disc because the game will be leaked", so he was possibly given a backer beta key by someone who didn't use his, didn't look up anything about the game, and just assumed it was idiot-proof.
 

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This is the first picture in his article:
PillarsofEternity-FirstImpressions_Image4.jpg


You're welcome ;) (You know where to look, if you want to know the version Anthony Davis)

He seems to be using pictures from several different versions. But you should read the square who he is too. The more I think about it I get the feeling that was just clickbait.
 
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Yeah, unqualified pirates who give your game bad reviews must be pretty much the worst for a game developer.
 

Seaking4

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Thanks Osvir

Holy moly, that version is over 150 versions old. That's roughly 5+ months old from Today.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that guy.

My mistake - that screenshot is from 301, his others are from 435. I'm not sure which are legit though from his playthrough.

He says that he had to use other screenshots because the game kept crashing on him (under the invisible characters screenshot).

At the end: "AUTHOR NOTE: Please note that I had initially prepared a series of screenshots for much of what I talk about throughout this article. However, due to some unexpected issues and data loss, I no longer have these available".

None of them are probably his so you won't be able to tell what version he is playing from the screenshots.
 

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Patrick Waring
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From Perth, Patrick has played video games from a young age and now has "opinions." When not fretting over whether using words like "fretting" is effeminate, he likes to write jokes about video games. Sometimes he goes outside, and other times he just sits at his PC, thinking way too hard about Nintendo games.

'Nuff said. No credibility Seaking4. And people jumping the guns without reading the article too *sigh* me too:

Close to the end of this really badly written article (This disclaimer should've been in the very top):
However, this is a beta that’s only a month from release and I’m still having characters turn invisible and my save files becoming corrupted.

So... essentially clickbait.
 

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Pillars of Eternity Presentation in Europe was cancelled because of a double booking apparently.

J.E. Sawyer said:
We were double-booked for presentations, unfortunately. There wasn't a way for us to do both.
 

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The easiest way to code through the maze is to always take the Left turn!!!! (I'm not trying to posit anything about dev's or anything, just saying)
 

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  • Georgi Antonov
    Dear Patrick,
    Congratulations on finding the Pause button! What an adventure that must have been! It’s customary to read up on a game before playing a closed beta version, so be sure to do that next time, before you’ve made yourself look silly.

Sensuki - that is really not you? Missing a chance for a lot of internet fame and heavy brofisting, this Antonov fellow.

AUTHOR NOTE: Please note that I had initially prepared a series of screenshots for much of what I talk about throughout this article. However, due to some unexpected issues and data loss, I no longer have these available.

My potato racial bonus to finding conspiracies is tingling. Maybe it would be bad to show the version?
 

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Fixed? I assume that's what you meant?
If so, I'd suggest you edit that. If Grunker hadn't made the mistake I wouldn't have read that post thrice. :oops:
No. I mean WL2 and POE had approximately equal budgets. I'm curious who managed to make the bigger game given that.
"Bigger" in what capacity? More content? More explorable landmass? More quality(TM) explorable landmass? Longer playtime? Longer playtime of quality(TM) content? Etc. I think you're getting my point. Lots of sources for contention with an "objectively" correct answer being very improbable.
Having played (and still not nearly finished WL2) I'd say that has a lot of landmass to explore. I'd be surpized if PE has as much. (Simply going by comments from Sensuki a few months back, which suggested that PE would not exactly be fuckhuge. [EDIT] Sawyer disagrees. LOL [/EDIT]) On the other hand I'd expect PE to have less empty areas/more content...
*shrug*

I also don't think, that it's a good means to measure cost of 3d vs 2d. Since the game budgets might have been similar, but that doesn't mean that the graffix budgets were similar. Unless some employees from both studios would like to enlighten us ;)

Anyway, given the release discussions:
Anybody else planning on leaving PE alone for a weak or two after release? Just to wait out the inevitable hot-fixes/patches. (I don't expect that I'll manage to actually resist the draw. But until I give in, it'll stay my plan.)
 

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