Pillars of Eternity Beta Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Apexeon]

Yeah, it was a light ARPG with some very quirky writing. Space Truckers driving starships with cupholders type of thing. Pretty funny and light hearted. o7

Have you guys considered bringing it to the Kickstarter at some point in the future? Obsidian should probably do more than one KS project in a particular time period - waiting for a single title for almost 3 years would be a lot easier if every year and a half you get something new to play.

Shut up.

Their next Kickstarter game will be led by Chris Avellone and it will be turn-based, God damn you!

Now that can get the wallet to open up.

 

[Roguey]

Have you guys considered bringing it to the Kickstarter at some point in the future? Obsidian should probably do more than one KS project in a particular time period - waiting for a single title for almost 3 years would be a lot easier if every year and a half you get something new to play.

Light arpgs don't exactly get the masses opening their wallets for preorders, and a big problem with Virginia was justifying using resources on it when those people could have been improving their bigger projects instead.

I also hope you guise appreciate what I did there, getting someone to reveal deets about a semi-announced, long-cancelled game. Hope there aren't any clickbait journos lurking this megathread.

 

[vivec]

I think I have become totally uninterested in this game. Recently, so many good games have come out to whet my appetite that I have barely even touched the PoE beta for 3-4 months. Maybe this game will fill the gap of good storytelling that is lacking in recent times, but that is all I see it contribute too. Disappointed really.

 

[Ellef]

It's got the groundwork to be the only good RTwP RPG made in recent history. I wouldn't judge it too harshly based on the BB, and as long as it's not a catastrophically buggy game, it should be pretty good.

 

[vivec]

It's got the groundwork to be the only good RTwP RPG made in recent history. I wouldn't judge it too harshly based on the BB, and as long as it's not a catastrophically buggy game, it should be pretty good.

Umm.

Serpent in the Staglands. Your authentic inheritor to darklands/IE games. Way better in feel and mechanics than PoE can even hope to become.

 

[Infinitron]

I'm not sure how a classless RPG can be considered an "authentic" inheritor to the IE games, especially for those "grognard" types whose primary enjoyment of the IE games seems to have been derived from their imbalanced class-based powerbuilding metagame possibilities, and who approve of severe class-based restrictions and limitations.

 

[Ellef]

It's got the groundwork to be the only good RTwP RPG made in recent history. I wouldn't judge it too harshly based on the BB, and as long as it's not a catastrophically buggy game, it should be pretty good.

Umm.

Serpent in the Staglands. Your authentic inheritor to darklands/IE games. Way better in feel and mechanics than PoE can even hope to become.

Fair call, I was forgetting games currently in development. I've enjoyed the SitS beta quite a bit, but I guess I was referring to IE type games. I'm looking forward to both.

 

[vivec]

I'm not sure how a classless RPG can be considered an "authentic" inheritor to the IE games, especially for those "grognard" types whose primary enjoyment of the IE games seems to have been derived from their imbalanced class-based powerbuilding metagame possibilities, and who approve of severe class-based restrictions and limitations.

Don't want to get into a detailed debate about this. Was just responding to the "RTwP RPG" comment. Which is true for for all games mentioned.

 

[prodigydancer]

Their next Kickstarter game will be led by Chris Avellone and it will be turn-based, God damn you!

I sincerely hope it'll be RTwP. Too much TB crap these days.

 

[Jaesun]

Joined: Feb 16, 2015

 

[Grotesque]

Recently, so many good games have come out to whet my appetite that I have barely even touched the PoE beta for 3-4 months.

Care to share which these good games are?

 

[vivec]

Sure:

Wasteland 2
Divinity: OS
Blackguards
Dragonfall
Mordheim (alpha)
Neo Scavenger
Underrail


These are all TB and have enormous time sink potential. They are not all *great* games. But hey, I am comparing them to PoE. Underrail and Neo scavenger are probably the classic material.

Finally, AoD is almost done. Should be out by Thursday. By far the best game I ever played.

 

[Anthony Davis]

Their next Kickstarter game will be led by Chris Avellone and it will be turn-based, God damn you!

I sincerely hope it'll be RTwP. Too much TB crap these days.

 

[coffeetable]

phase-based

frozen synapse and door kickers are the best squad-combat games ive played in recent years

 

[Jedi Exile]

Yeah, it was a light ARPG with some very quirky writing. Space Truckers driving starships with cupholders type of thing. Pretty funny and light hearted. o7

Really? A sci-fi RPG with light-hearted humour, made by Obsidian?

 

[Anthony Davis]

Yeah, it was a light ARPG with some very quirky writing. Space Truckers driving starships with cupholders type of thing. Pretty funny and light hearted. o7

Really? A sci-fi RPG with light-hearted humour, made by Obsidian?

Light hearted might be the wrong word. It was being written by Matt Maclean, who is a black-hearted cynic(why doesn't he post here?!). The cupholder thing was real, but it was also sort of a commentary or something. It was funny.

 

[Athelas]

phase-based

frozen synapse and door kickers are the best squad-combat games ive played in recent years

Anthony Davis, what are the chances of Obsidian making something like this? It seems like a small enough leap from RTwP, what with player and enemy turns take place simultaneously in real-time.

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

phase-based

frozen synapse and door kickers are the best squad-combat games ive played in recent years

Anthony Davis, what are the chances of Obsidian making something like this? It seems like a small enough leap from RTwP, what with player and enemy turns take place simultaneously in real-time.

The only drawback to phase-based is when different actions have different speeds associated with them. You'd have to invent a mechanic that completely encapsulates the philosophy by ensuring all the different melee speeds and spell casting times synced up. For example, with RTwP and individual turn-based, can't you adjust your fighter's 4 attacks per round to attack different creatures as the need arises, but with phased based, you would have less options (?), or, at least, different options (?).

I'm quite hyped for this game now... it's getting close... you can almost sense the lull as people start reserving any more opinions until early April

 

[Athelas]

The only drawback to phase-based is when different actions have different speeds associated with them. You'd have to invent a mechanic that completely encapsulates the philosophy by ensuring all the different melee speeds and spell casting times synced up.

You can have a a simultaneous turn-based system with asynchronous turns.

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

The only drawback to phase-based is when different actions have different speeds associated with them. You'd have to invent a mechanic that completely encapsulates the philosophy by ensuring all the different melee speeds and spell casting times synced up.

You can have a a simultaneous turn-based system with asynchronous turns.

You can?

 

[Sensuki]

Dimitri Berman fixed cloaks

 

[Abu Antar]

Dimitri Berman fixed cloaks

Dem's some fine looking cloaks.

 

[Athelas]

The only drawback to phase-based is when different actions have different speeds associated with them. You'd have to invent a mechanic that completely encapsulates the philosophy by ensuring all the different melee speeds and spell casting times synced up.

You can have a a simultaneous turn-based system with asynchronous turns.

You can?

Frozen Synapse lets you set a timer for when you want the execution of your turn to happen, so you can have units starting to execute their turns at different times. Another way of doing it would be by having asynchronous turns based on how combat goes, i.e. the character with faster movement speed will complete their turn faster, making their next 'decision phase' and therefore their next turn come up faster.

 

[Sensuki]

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

I'm guessing Kana is modeled on Lana Wachovski