Eternity Pillars of Eternity II Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Thonius]

D:OS2's relative mainstream success was unprecedented and the hope that the lightning will strike twice by clumsily clopping through the now-beaten path is an empty one.

D:OS2 just clicked for some reasons with "mass" market. And it's not like a total hit! Nu X-Com is way more popular. So yeah agree trying to catch this stream might be costly and futile.

 

[Once more unto the Codex]

Obsidian announces collab with Critical Role:

—Codex: THE END IS NIGH!!!!!!!

—Rest of Internet: Pretty Cool

Obsidian announces full VO:

—Codex: [Begin planning the 4th Crusade to rid the earth of California]
—Rest of Internet: IT’S THE RAPTURE!!!!

***Lest anyone get me wrong, there is a reason I hang out on the Codex instead of the rest of the Internet.

 

[Infinitron]

Doesn't make VO content / story / dialogue creation way less flexible?

It also makes it less likely to be loredumpy. >_>

But yeah, I wonder how they deal with patching dialogue in the future and stuff like that.

In games that are known to be voice acted from the beginning, you often see stuff like quest details that might change getting relegated to non-voice acted journal entries and notes. But I'm guessing that PoE2 is more like D:OS 2 where they decided to add the VO near the end of development.

 

[Thonius]

Well the rest of internet is full of retards....
Prove me wrong!

 

[Sentinel]

You can dislike VO, but realize that from a cost-benefit perspective it's not much different from investing in better graphics - which is this game's true budget sink, btw. All those character models and spell effects, remade from scratch.

That wasn't so much graphics but new engine + fixing the mess that was combat readability in PoE1. It's a "well, we have to do this anyway... might as well redo them" kind of situation.

I didn't knew that it was on a new engine. Is it fully new or just an updated version of the old one? The old one seemed decent but with problems.

It's on Unity 5, an upgrade from Unity 4 which was PoE1's engine. Same shit, but this time with perfume so it doesn't smell as much.

 

[Sentinel]

It also makes it less likely to be loredumpy. >_>

If what people are saying is true - that they wrote the game first and only decided to have full VO after - then this won't be true.

 

[Delterius]

This really is the spiritual sucessor to Baldur's Gate. The thread even reminds me of the BSN circa 2011.

That said, everyone is freaking out at VO in general while I'm here, realizing that the production company behind the VO is a webseries made up of 6 people.

EDIT this is just in, voice acting leak for Deadfire:

Spoiler

 

[Sentinel]

Fry, be honest here man. They can't even release a backer update, how do you think they'll manage to release a game? The game doesn't exist, face it.

 

[Ibn Sina]

My point is that I highly doubt Obs forked enough bills to pay for professional voice acting and we can expect the same quality voice acting as that of PoE. Californian English with minimal range mixed with faux Maori and faux Italian.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Jewbacca has it right though - it's feature parity with DOS2 that they want. For better or worse Larian's brainfart has become a de-facto standard in this genre and everyone else has to measure up to it. It is what it is.

 

[Ruzen]

We have full VO but still can't adjust the volume of that footsteps?

 

[Thonius]

You can dislike VO, but it's not much different from investing in better graphics - which is this game's true budget sink, btw. All those character models and spell effects, remade from scratch. Nothing kept from PoE1.

Eh FX is not that time consuming nowadays... There is a wonderful software SideFX Houdini which is got neat features for game engines (Unreal Engine integrated really well with Houdini but I don't know if that's the same with Unity) . You just generate shit for example explosion... make template and just iterate seed... boom! You got presets with totally different explosions. Spam them all you want..

 

[Merlkir]

I think most are forgetting the bigger issue. The problem is not with voice Acting if it is done right. Either you do it right and fork over those bills to hire professional voice actors with range or do not do it at all. Going halfway is the worst of both worlds and will yield to you the terrible results you see in PoE and probably PoE 2. Hiring a bunch of people from cafes or using your own staff is just lazy ass work and low effort and does not cut it anymore.

Critical Role: "Voice actor Matthew Mercer leads a group of fellow voice actors on epic Dungeons & Dragons campaigns. "



Matthew Mercer - voiced 65 games
Marisha Ray - 47 imdb voice credits (among them Metal Gear, FF, Persona, Lego Star Wars...)
Liam O’Brien - voiced 60 games
Travis Willingham - voiced 78 games
Laura Bailey - voiced 120 games
Sam Riegel - voiced 39 games
Ashley Johnson - voiced 17 games (and many more TV shows and movies)
Taliesin Jaffe - voiced 21 games (and a bunch of anime)

I've never heard of any of them, but in what way are they not professional voice actors?

edit: LOL, how is this Fake news? I just found and counted their individual credits. They're not just some random people doing a podcast, ffs.

 

[Delterius]

I'll be honest. If Pallegina sounds like a Brooklyn cab driver this game is

 

[fantadomat]

Obsidian announces collab with Critical Role:

—Codex: THE END IS NIGH!!!!!!!

—Rest of Internet: Pretty Cool

Obsidian announces full VO:

—Codex: [Begin planning the 4th Crusade to rid the earth of California]
—Rest of Internet: IT’S THE RAPTURE!!!!

***Lest anyone get me wrong, there is a reason I hang out on the Codex instead of the rest of the Internet.

Would join such a crusade,that place is in dire need of some purging and crucifixions.

 

[fantadomat]

I'll be honest. If Pallegina sounds like a Brooklyn cab driver this game is

What if every second guy sounds like MCDonalds worker?

 

[Fry]

Fry, be honest here man. They can't even release a backer update, how do you think they'll manage to release a game? The game doesn't exist, face it.

 

[Frusciante]

Codex has gone completely insane. Seems like we're on the brink of mass suicide here because we get VO.

 

[Jezal_k23]

Well, if anything, it could be worth it for them (probably will) and be a mainstream success like DOS2 as long as there is not too much narration mixed in with the dialogue. That stuff was clumsy in PoE. DOS2 for example never mixes dialogue and narration, and I think for good reason.

 

[Iskramor]

Ok now im eating my own words we are reaching levels of decline that should not be possible.

 

[fantadomat]

Codex has gone completely insane. Seems like we're on the brink of mass suicide here because we get VO.

Now we know how it felt when the rpgs moved from "write your own words" to "choose a dialogue option"

 

[Delterius]

Guys.

What if the VA is

good?

 

[Pizzashoes]

This really is the spiritual sucessor to Baldur's Gate. The thread even reminds me of the BSN circa 2011.

That said, everyone is freaking out at VO in general while I'm here, realizing that the production company behind the VO is a webseries made up of 6 people.

EDIT this is just in, voice acting leak for Deadfire:

Spoiler

The most egregious part of that was the frail lady not dying in one hit from that big ass magic sword.

 

[Roguey]

I can't understand why any of you thought you were in the fringes of Deadfire's target audience when I figured out that I wasn't way back during the Fig campaign.

 

[Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss]

I can't understand why any of you thought you were in the fringes of Deadfire's target audience when I figured out that I wasn't way back during the Fig campaign.

The most effective form of trolling is being realistic when the truth hurts people's feelings.