Pillars of Eternity Thread [Pre-Expansion]

[Semper]

I think the game definitely lacks an initial hook. Watching bad men do some weird shit that possibly affects you isn't really a strong story hook.

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well, it's not really reflected in the game's mechanics, but after the awakening the pc can't sleep. he's tortured from souls of the past, and there's the possibility of slowly drifting into retardo land. dunno about you, but that's what would keep me on my heels to get help.

 

[Bleed the Man]

LOL Because he can distinguish when the bonus apply and when not. Totally game-braking He notice it after it has been deeply covered on forums and he had been playing the game for days. Fuck Neo Gaf, if they would have stayed quiet, this guy wouldn't have noticed.

doesn't it show on the character sheet?

Yes, but again, he notice this now after several days playing!? When it has been confirmed very recently that some passive get lost forever and is not just an UI issue? (I think some are just UI issues, but I'm not sure, I'm not have been informing since this morning, never use the double click personally, so I just warned my usual forum about the issue and moved on)

Sorry, but I have little faith on most reviewers. They're like spoiled childs.

 

[Infinitron]

Hey badler, why did you guys remove the "Game Mechanics" board from your forums? Pillars of Eternity General Discussion is a huge mess of newbies now and there's nowhere good to discuss gameplay improvements for upcoming versions.

 

[Duraframe300]

LOL Because he can distinguish when the bonus apply and when not. Totally game-braking He notice it after it has been deeply covered on forums and he had been playing the game for days. Fuck Neo Gaf, if they would have stayed quiet, this guy wouldn't have noticed.

doesn't it show on the character sheet?

Yes, but again, he notice this now after several days playing!? When it has been confirmed very recently that some passive get lost forever and is not just an UI issue? (I think some are just UI issues, but I'm not sure, I'm not have been informing since this morning, never use the double click personally, so I just warned my usual forum about the issue and moved on)

Sorry, but I have little faith on most reviewers. They're like spoiled childs.

Sensuki mentioned that he didn't notice it in the pre-release version. So might as well have crept in with the day1 patch.

 

[Jarpie]

Hey badler, why did you guys remove the "Game Mechanics" board from your forums? Pillars of Eternity General Discussion is a huge mess of newbies now and there's nowhere good to discuss gameplay improvements for upcoming versions.

The subforum Pillars of Eternity: Characters Builds, Strategies & the Unity Engine (Spoiler Warning!) is probably meant for that, but the name is misleading.

 

[Shannow]

How are people playing with regards to reputation/personality traits. I started with them on but have played with them off a while. I have to say I vastly prefer it.

Those notifications get incredibly on my nerves. And sadly, turning them off only turns off some of them, not all

Which ones can't you disable? You should be able to disable everything from stat/skill checks to reputation modifiers.

Huh? After turning mine off, I have none.

EDIT: Or do you mean skill requirements and stat requirements? You can turn those off as well.

Unless I'm missing something. This is how my options look:

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And just as the description says, I still get all qualifiers that do not unlock new conversation options (ie. all the flavour options are still displayed, [Stoic], [Cruel], etc.). The qualifiers are only removed for the real C&C options.

 

[Infinitron]

Hey badler, why did you guys remove the "Game Mechanics" board from your forums? Pillars of Eternity General Discussion is a huge mess of newbies now and there's nowhere good to discuss gameplay improvements for upcoming versions.

The subforum Pillars of Eternity: Characters Builds, Strategies & the Unity Engine (Spoiler Warning!) is probably meant for that, but the name is misleading.

Yeah, I saw that, but it seems more about players sharing party-building tips with each other than about critiquing the game.

 

[Metatron]

6/10 incoming from gamespot:

Argleblargle. Quick! What is the best way to calm yourself after you realize a bug might force you to restart a long game?

Not sure if a patch can restore points spent on passive bonuses that have since been lost, however. Game-ruining bug

So angry right now. C'mon, Obsidian. What a total killer. Praying for a patch that at least restores racial passives.

Goddamnit. I don't want to have to lose all this time in Pillars of Eternity. Totally game-breaking.

PSA: Do not double click items in your inventory to equip them in Pillars of Eternity. Your character will lose all buffs, forever.

Source: https://twitter.com/fiddlecub

LOL Because he can distinguish when the bonus apply and when not. Totally game-braking He notice it after it has been deeply covered on forums and he had been playing the game for days. Fuck Neo Gaf, if they would have stayed quiet, this guy wouldn't have noticed.

They really should release a hotfix for this asap though or you can except this to severly affect review scores.

 

[Athelas]

Unless I'm missing something. This is how my options look:

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And just as the description says, I still get all qualifiers that do not unlock new conversation options (ie. all the flavour options are still displayed, [Stoic], [Cruel], etc.). The qualifiers are only removed for the real C&C options.

Untick 'Show Personality/Reputations'.

6/10 incoming from gamespot:

Argleblargle. Quick! What is the best way to calm yourself after you realize a bug might force you to restart a long game?

Not sure if a patch can restore points spent on passive bonuses that have since been lost, however. Game-ruining bug

So angry right now. C'mon, Obsidian. What a total killer. Praying for a patch that at least restores racial passives.

Goddamnit. I don't want to have to lose all this time in Pillars of Eternity. Totally game-breaking.

PSA: Do not double click items in your inventory to equip them in Pillars of Eternity. Your character will lose all buffs, forever.

Source: https://twitter.com/fiddlecub

LOL Because he can distinguish when the bonus apply and when not. Totally game-braking He notice it after it has been deeply covered on forums and he had been playing the game for days. Fuck Neo Gaf, if they would have stayed quiet, this guy wouldn't have noticed.

They really should release a hotfix for this asap though or you can except this to severly affect review scores.

It's too late for that. As in, those reviewers already gave the game a 9.2 Metacritic score.

 

[Konjad]

uh, finally one of my saves loaded. ffs obsidian

 

[Crooked Bee]

So, I got critically hit with a barrage of bugs all of a sudden. Game crashing on scene transition (same bug with Raedric's hold already mentioned earlier ITT), questgivers going hostile on me for no reason, stats behaving funny. Amusingly enough, this is the first Obsidian game where I've experienced crashes of any kind; not even Alpha Protocol crashed on me once.

I guess I'll pick this up in a few months after it gets patched up a bit.

 

[Bleed the Man]

LOL Because he can distinguish when the bonus apply and when not. Totally game-braking He notice it after it has been deeply covered on forums and he had been playing the game for days. Fuck Neo Gaf, if they would have stayed quiet, this guy wouldn't have noticed.

doesn't it show on the character sheet?

Yes, but again, he notice this now after several days playing!? When it has been confirmed very recently that some passive get lost forever and is not just an UI issue? (I think some are just UI issues, but I'm not sure, I'm not have been informing since this morning, never use the double click personally, so I just warned my usual forum about the issue and moved on)

Sorry, but I have little faith on most reviewers. They're like spoiled childs.

Sensuki mentioned that he didn't notice it in the pre-release version. So might as well have crept in with the day1 patch.

Well, that would explain a couple of things. I still think he wouldn't noticed, honestly, but my complaint is mostly butthurt, don't want to see the scores go down. Funny, considering I think scores are useless and conterproductive for consumers, but they aren't for Obsidian, so I want this to do as well as possible.

 

[Metatron]

Unless I'm missing something. This is how my options look:

Spoiler

And just as the description says, I still get all qualifiers that do not unlock new conversation options (ie. all the flavour options are still displayed, [Stoic], [Cruel], etc.). The qualifiers are only removed for the real C&C options.

Untick 'Show Personality/Reputations'.

6/10 incoming from gamespot:

Argleblargle. Quick! What is the best way to calm yourself after you realize a bug might force you to restart a long game?

Not sure if a patch can restore points spent on passive bonuses that have since been lost, however. Game-ruining bug

So angry right now. C'mon, Obsidian. What a total killer. Praying for a patch that at least restores racial passives.

Goddamnit. I don't want to have to lose all this time in Pillars of Eternity. Totally game-breaking.

PSA: Do not double click items in your inventory to equip them in Pillars of Eternity. Your character will lose all buffs, forever.

Source: https://twitter.com/fiddlecub

LOL Because he can distinguish when the bonus apply and when not. Totally game-braking He notice it after it has been deeply covered on forums and he had been playing the game for days. Fuck Neo Gaf, if they would have stayed quiet, this guy wouldn't have noticed.

They really should release a hotfix for this asap though or you can except this to severly affect review scores.

It's too late for that. As in, those reviewers already gave the game a 9.2 Metacritic score.

20 reviews on metacritic currently, a game like this usually end up getting 40ish reviews. So that's only half.

 

[Shannow]

Unless I'm missing something. This is how my options look:

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And just as the description says, I still get all qualifiers that do not unlock new conversation options (ie. all the flavour options are still displayed, [Stoic], [Cruel], etc.). The qualifiers are only removed for the real C&C options.

Untick 'Show Personality/Reputations'.

Thx. Somehow I thought that meant showing the changes on your char sheet (Still think it should be default off, though.)

 

[Bubbles]

So, I got critically hit with a barrage of bugs all of a sudden. Game crashing on scene transition (same bug with Raedric's hold already mentioned earlier ITT), questgivers going hostile on me for no reason, stats behaving funny. Amusingly enough, this is the first Obsidian game where I've experienced crashes of any kind; not even Alpha Protocol crashed on me once.

I guess I'll pick this up in a few months after it gets patched up a bit.

I think waiting and starting a new game later is probably the best idea for everybody. There are many bugs related to save games, including stacking effects, permanent stat changes, and massive bloat (800+ MB for a quicksave) that eventually renders them impossible to load. If anyone makes it to the endgame despite all the bugs, it'll be because they have massively inflated stats due to the bug that reapplies all your stat boosts on save/load. Playing now is just a waste of time IMHO.

 

[Bleed the Man]

So, I got critically hit with a barrage of bugs all of a sudden. Game crashing on scene transition (same bug with Raedric's hold already mentioned earlier ITT), questgivers going hostile on me for no reason, stats behaving funny. Amusingly enough, this is the first Obsidian game where I've experienced crashes of any kind; not even Alpha Protocol crashed on me once.

I guess I'll pick this up in a few months after it gets patched up a bit.

I think waiting and starting a new game later is probably the best idea for everybody. There are many bugs related to save games, including massive bloat (800+ MB for a quicksave), stacking effects, and permanent stat changes, that eventually renders them impossible to load. If anyone makes it to the endgame despite all the bugs, it'll be because they have massively inflated stats due to the bug that reapplies all your stat boosts on save/load. Playing now is just a waste of time IMHO.

How does the inflated stats bug occurs?

 

[Cyberarmy]

What are those bugs you guys speak of O_o
Biggest bug I've encountered so far (nearly 30 hours of gameplay) is losing my traps after loading. Funny thing is they return after I reload once more. Other than this had some minor "artifact" glitches and freaky mirror images that persist after a wizards death. And some very minor annoyences.

 

[Nikaido]

It's too late for that. As in, those reviewers already gave the game a 9.2 Metacritic score.

It's never too late. And in the case of gamespot their score got updated on metacritic. Shitty developers can't hide behind "it was a prerelease errything will be fine on release you'll see" to avoid the bad publicity that might rain on them later.

 

[Blaine]

My favorite bug so far is the one where, if you have an enchanted piece of equipment in one of your stash tab slots, items in the same slot position in other tabs will also show the enchantment border.

Then there's the bug where, when you defeat the

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Spider Queen

and take the shortcut up to the courtyard of Caed Nua, when you examine the trapdoor again it opens a blank map that you can't do anything with.

How do they not catch that sort of thing in testing? It boggles the mind.

 

[Bubbles]

At some point during gameplay, your saves will "break" and start letting boosts from items and modals stack with themselves on save/load. Here are some reports:

bonus from toggleable skills/boosts/etc remains permanent after save/load

A way to reproduce the problem - get my savegame:

https://www.dropbox....e.savegame?dl=0

(the warrior - check his nutty defence stats - should be half of that -.-)

Turn "defender" off, save the game, turn it on again - see that he have more defs now

I think this is the root of the many alike problems - stat modifiers that should be temporary go permanent

Upon loading a game where you have equipped the "Amulet of Health" your character's maximum Endurance will go up by 15.

Steps to reproduce are simple:

1. Equip the Amulet of Health on a character, in my example on Aloth. Make a note of his modified Endurance stat.

2. Save the game.

3. Leave the game by going to the main menu

4. Load the game anew and observe that the Endurance stat is now 15 points higher than it was when you saved it.

Issue: Durance appears to be steadily gaining permanent increases to his intellect from The Talisman of Unconquerable.

Steps to reproduce: I didn't notice this at first so I'm not sure exactly what's going on.

1. Equip the Talisman of the Unconquerable on Durance

2. Travel, fight and rest with him for some time

3. Note that his intellect slowly inceases

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[Frusciante]

Havent experienced any bugs so far and no crashes either (15 hours in). This does sound worrying though.

 

[Blaine]

Well, it's official.

It's time for everyone to play Baldur's Gate II again while the grand retards of the Obsidian Order finish beta testing the game for us.

 

[Grunker]

Shannow: Just untick reputation..?

EDIT: oh, ninja'd

So, I got critically hit with a barrage of bugs all of a sudden. Game crashing on scene transition (same bug with Raedric's hold already mentioned earlier ITT), questgivers going hostile on me for no reason, stats behaving funny. Amusingly enough, this is the first Obsidian game where I've experienced crashes of any kind; not even Alpha Protocol crashed on me once.

I guess I'll pick this up in a few months after it gets patched up a bit.

I think waiting and starting a new game later is probably the best idea for everybody. There are many bugs related to save games, including stacking effects, permanent stat changes, and massive bloat (800+ MB for a quicksave) that eventually renders them impossible to load. If anyone makes it to the endgame despite all the bugs, it'll be because they have massively inflated stats due to the bug that reapplies all your stat boosts on save/load. Playing now is just a waste of time IMHO.

I still have nearly no bugs (except for all my items being greyed out even though it has no effect), so I'm crossing my fingars

 

[Bleed the Man]

At some point during gameplay, your saves will "break" and start letting boosts from items and modals stack with themselves on save/load. Here are some reports:

Thanks. Do you know what can cause this? It's unavoidable?

I will check searching for this stuff when starting the game again. I haven't noticed anything off thus far.

 

[Trodat]

I managed to clear Raedric's Hold but I'm still unable to exit that place. :D

Raedric fight on hard was a nice challenge, enjoying the game more and more as time goes on, also starting to get a grip on the engagement mechanic.

 

[Darth Roxor]

wasnt this shit in open beta for like half a year jesus christ