[Poll] Troika

[Darth Canoli]

I find Arcanum's combat quite adequate for a single character RPG. In turn based, you have enough tactical control over a situation that you can win hard fights with some effort (use grenades, spells, etc), but when you want to get a fight over with quickly you switch to real time and slice your way through the enemies in 5 seconds.

I never felt the combat to be unclear, even in the rapidly fast real time mode. Every swing tells you whether it's a hit, miss, crit, etc.

Arcanum's combat is alright, i agree and far more enjoyable than NWN 2 OC but is alright enough ?

 

[Tom Baker's Arse]

I remember having a lot of fun playing Arcanum when it first game out - my wife and I played it together, and she beat the damned game, whilst I never have .... $&%^#%$@! ............................ On the other hand ToEE holds the dearest place in my heart because of my D&D and Greyhawk roots from many moons ago.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I find Arcanum's combat quite adequate for a single character RPG.

But Arcanum is not a single-character RPG. It deprives the player of control over the rest of the party, which makes combat less complex and considerably duller than it should be. Although this reduced player control at least has the benefit of shortening the average duration of combat, the time that could have been saved is instead filled with repetitive trash encounters. A smaller number of better designed encounters with full party control would have greatly improved combat and therefore the game as a whole.

 

[Lawntoilet]

I find Arcanum's combat quite adequate for a single character RPG.

But Arcanum is not a single-character RPG. It deprives the player of control over the rest of the party, which makes combat less complex and considerably duller than it should be. Although this reduced player control at least has the benefit of shortening the average duration of combat, the time that could have been saved is instead filled with repetitive trash encounters. A smaller number of better designed encounters with full party control would have greatly improved combat and therefore the game as a whole.

It's a single-character RPG if you dump Charisma and piss off/kill Virgil.

But yes combat definitely has room for improvement.

 

[Roguey]

Playing as a fighter literally consists of clicking on an enemy to attack, then waiting for 2 full minutes while occasionally quaffing a potion until your character has cut his way through the enemy trash mob in excruciatingly slow combat that only has one action every 6 seconds.

You get a second attack starting at level 6 and haste also gives you another attack.

Meanwhile Arcanum's trash fights are completely over and done with after 6 seconds.

The end dungeon in Swordflight Chapter 1 is better than every dungeon in Arcanum.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Playing as a fighter literally consists of clicking on an enemy to attack, then waiting for 2 full minutes while occasionally quaffing a potion until your character has cut his way through the enemy trash mob in excruciatingly slow combat that only has one action every 6 seconds.

You get a second attack starting at level 6 and haste also gives you another attack.

Meanwhile Arcanum's trash fights are completely over and done with after 6 seconds.

The end dungeon in Swordflight Chapter 1 is better than every dungeon in Arcanum.

Swordflight is a legit masterpiece and every part of it is better than every part of vanilla NWN.

 

[anvi]

What does NWN have to do with Troika?

 

[Lawntoilet]

What does NWN have to do with Troika?

They were comparing which combat system is better.

 

[JarlFrank]

I find Arcanum's combat quite adequate for a single character RPG.

But Arcanum is not a single-character RPG. It deprives the player of control over the rest of the party, which makes combat less complex and considerably duller than it should be. Although this reduced player control at least has the benefit of shortening the average duration of combat, the time that could have been saved is instead filled with repetitive trash encounters. A smaller number of better designed encounters with full party control would have greatly improved combat and therefore the game as a whole.

I don't disagree that full party control would have improved Arcanum. It would improve every game with a party but no control.

 

[Ol' Willy]

I don't disagree that full party control would have improved Arcanum. It would improve every game with a party but no control.

Full party control would make Arcanum too easy. There is full party control mod for Fallout 2, and it makes the game a walk in the park.

 

[Lilliput McHammersmith]

I don't disagree that full party control would have improved Arcanum. It would improve every game with a party but no control.

Full party control would make Arcanum too easy. There is full party control mod for Fallout 2, and it makes the game a walk in the park.

Even on the highest difficulty?

I am going to have to look at that mod. I'm planning on playing Fallout 2 soon and that sounds amazing.