PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: 2FA NOW MANDATORY - YOU DON'T NEED A PHONE NUMBER FFS

[Fedora Master]

Would you guys pay an extra monthly subscription not to have 2FA?

We would need to implement 2FA in order to accept the payments.

Can I pay you 50 bucks to fuck off?

 

[Crispy]

You already did.

 

[Anthedon]

At long last, Rogue Trader.

Are Owlcat finally done patching and releasing all the DLC the Emperor's will commanded them to produce?

 

[Melcar]

Oh joyous day. Got my code. 30 more days of bliss on The Codex. Suck it losers.

 

[Atlantico]

It is amazing that the admin braintrust is too thick to understand that 2FA is an own goal

 

[SharkClub]

If only vatniks could be trusted to not break into people's accounts and sabotage the post database by mass deleting everything for teh epic lulz then maybe we wouldn't have to be 2FAcucked.

 

[Fedora Master]

If only vatniks could be trusted

Does not compute

 

[Atlantico]

If only vatniks could be trusted

Does not compute

Strong vibes of P*lack ancestry

 

[SharkClub]

Why mark something as fake news that you know to be the factually correct sequence of events that happened?

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

If only vatniks could be trusted to not break into people's accounts and sabotage the post database by mass deleting everything for teh epic lulz then maybe we wouldn't have to be 2FAcucked.

If only Nafoids encryption was descent, need to put those coding socks tranny brigade on overtime.

 

[SharkClub]

Trannies are your country's number 1 cultural export, Jonathan.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

at least our trannies are based and red pilled, contrary to the nafo's ones.

 

[Shadowfang]

I couldn't log in the codex, on my phone, for 2 weeks, because every code sent to me didn't work until today.

Yay...

 

[Alex]

I couldn't log in the codex, on my phone, for 2 weeks, because every code sent to me didn't work until today.

Yay...

You know, I have kind of a crazy idea...

How about we remove this 2fa silliness or whatever it is called and let this long-standing troll go? I mean, even that time we lost our usernames didn't last anywhere this long.

 

[Hobknobling]

amazing shit with 1.7/5 rating on playmarket

You'd rather rely on the retard ratings of an app than the direct advice of this site's administrator?

Authy is extremely easy to use, 100% free, and, so far, infallible.

Whatever.

Authy just had a massive data leak:

https://www.securityweek.com/twilio...er-hackers-leak-33m-authy-user-phone-numbers/

Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy User Phone Numbers
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Twilio this week confirmed suffering a data breach after hackers leaked 33 million phone numbers associated with the Authy application.

The notorious ShinyHunters hackers announced on the relaunched BreachForums website in late June that they were leaking 33 million random phone numbers associated with Twilio’s two-factor authentication app Authy.

The leaked information also included account IDs and some other non-personal data associated with Authy users.

In a security alert posted on its website, Twilio confirmed the data breach.

“Twilio has detected that threat actors were able to identify data associated with Authy accounts, including phone numbers, due to an unauthenticated endpoint. We have taken action to secure this endpoint and no longer allow unauthenticated requests,” the company said.

Twilio found no evidence that the hackers gained access to its systems or that they obtained other sensitive data, but as a precaution urged Authy users to install the latest Android and iOS security updates.

“While Authy accounts are not compromised, threat actors may try to use the phone number associated with Authy accounts for phishing and smishing attacks; we encourage all Authy users to stay diligent and have heightened awareness around the texts they are receiving,” Twilio said.

 

[Taluntain]

Good thing that we're listing a number of available authenticator apps if anyone doesn't want to use Authy for one reason or another. Obviously every data breach is a fail for Twilio, but in this case random phone numbers were leaked, not any identifiable information. Short of those phone numbers potentially being targeted by phishing attacks as a consequence, that's about it. Most if not all other authenticators don't require saving your phone number with them at the expense of a bit less convenience.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

And yet it's still recommended right there. What a bunch of sad, useless, lazy sacks of shit.

 

[Taluntain]

It works across the most platforms compared to the rest, which is an advantage for many users. And the breach wasn't critical, which would obviously get it removed from the list.

 

[Alex]

It works across the most platforms compared to the rest, which is an advantage for many users. And the breach wasn't critical, which would obviously get it removed from the list.

Taluntain, a honest question: Is there any point to the 2FA other than stopping people who use passwords stolen from some leak? Because, if that is the point, can't you just run once a week a script that matches the (hashed) passwords with those on the list of stolen ones and see of anyone is using a bad one? Then you could remove access to those who do until the create a new one. Would avoid all this trouble and be almost as safe, I think.

 

[Twiglard]

It works across the most platforms compared to the rest, which is an advantage for many users. And the breach wasn't critical, which would obviously get it removed from the list.

Taluntain, a honest question: Is there any point to the 2FA other than stopping people who use passwords stolen from some leak? Because, if that is the point, can't you just run once a week a script that matches the (hashed) passwords with those on the list of stolen ones and see of anyone is using a bad one? Then you could remove access to those who do until the create a new one. Would avoid all this trouble and be almost as safe, I think.

Not when passwords are stored using different hashing algorithms, and possibly salt.

 

[Taluntain]

Taluntain, a honest question: Is there any point to the 2FA other than stopping people who use passwords stolen from some leak? Because, if that is the point, can't you just run once a week a script that matches the (hashed) passwords with those on the list of stolen ones and see of anyone is using a bad one? Then you could remove access to those who do until the create a new one. Would avoid all this trouble and be almost as safe, I think.

There isn't a single list of stolen logins. There are literally dozens if not hundreds of such lists at this point. Some known and public, some not. Websites and various forums have been getting hacked left and right for years now, so the amount of user databases floating out there is huge and expanding every week, basically. So there's really no way to do what you suggest; some stolen databases are revealed only much later after the breach occurs and others are never posted publicly anywhere. Only checking against what's public would be ineffective, even if we ignore other problems with this idea.

The likelihood of at least one of your logins that you've used somewhere being in a breach and made public rises significantly with each year that you've been online. And since people tend to reuse logins, one stolen login usually unlocks the doors in a number of other places. 2FA safeguards against this and also against brute force attacks, which can also be used to extract logins with software that doesn't employ safeguards against it. It doesn't help if your password hasn't been breached yet if it's simple enough that it can be cracked with brute force attempts relatively fast.

 

[Zombra]

pictures one huge public list with all stolen passwords in the history of the internet

 

[Taluntain]

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

784 pwned websites
13,647,430,268 pwned accounts
115,795 pastes
228,888,902 paste accounts

Says it all, really.

 

[Alex]

It works across the most platforms compared to the rest, which is an advantage for many users. And the breach wasn't critical, which would obviously get it removed from the list.

Taluntain, a honest question: Is there any point to the 2FA other than stopping people who use passwords stolen from some leak? Because, if that is the point, can't you just run once a week a script that matches the (hashed) passwords with those on the list of stolen ones and see of anyone is using a bad one? Then you could remove access to those who do until the create a new one. Would avoid all this trouble and be almost as safe, I think.

Not when passwords are stored using different hashing algorithms, and possibly salt.

Those lists have the untransformed password (they are, after all, compromised). Just hash and salt using the same algorithm that is used on the codex.

pictures one huge public list with all stolen passwords in the history of the internet

If you used the same one Chrome uses to check your stored passwords, I think it would be good enough for government work. Although I admit I didn't consider the computational cost of checking every password on the list against all the stored passwords on the database. 2FA is still a pain and way overkill for an old discussion board.

 

[SharkClub]

At this point, the second they remove 2FA some retard is going to try and do exactly what was already done to multiple peoples' accounts because they disagree with their opinion in the political sub forum, even if mass deletion is removed it's probably just as easy to cuck an account by mass editing every post they've made, and the moment you start applying bandaid fixes over bandaid fixes to stop that from being an issue is when the forum ceases to be usable for its proper purposes (for example, removing the ability to edit old posts, means that any thread with an opening post that gets updated is just not a thing anymore). Zero remorse or accountability has been shown by the people responsible the first time (on the contrary, it is commonly celebrated and everyone who points this out is screeched at) so why would anyone trust them to not do it again now that everyone knows how easy it is, even if the original retard who started it is no longer around (someone will make sure to tell him if 2FA gets removed as well, I'm sure).