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JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Yeah, we switched from rotatable camera 3D to fixed perspective 2.5D for several reasons (easier & cheaper to create more assets, less hassle with the camera, aesthetic reasons etc).
 
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Yeah, we switched from rotatable camera 3D to fixed perspective 2.5D for several reasons (easier & cheaper to create more assets, less hassle with the camera, aesthetic reasons etc).
Don't see how it's easier than just doing fixed perspective 3D.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Yeah, we switched from rotatable camera 3D to fixed perspective 2.5D for several reasons (easier & cheaper to create more assets, less hassle with the camera, aesthetic reasons etc).
Don't see how it's easier than just doing fixed perspective 3D.

Clarification from the boss himself: we're using a hybrid, some objects are full 3D like the roofs of buildings and large rocks, but smaller objects are pre-rendered/2D because that takes less GPU power and allows us to fill the maps with tons of detail without overly taxing your system, which is especially useful for lower-end systems. This allows us to go crazy with clutter and decoration. We can have hundreds of detailed items in buildings, all based on high-poly pre-renders, without affecting performance.
 

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Alright, cut the bullshit. This looks way to good to be true. Someone key me in on the bullshit.
Console version, gay romances, woman empowerment, 1 000 000 words or something else.. I am sure something will show up eventually that Codex will hate :D
 
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Yeah, we switched from rotatable camera 3D to fixed perspective 2.5D for several reasons (easier & cheaper to create more assets, less hassle with the camera, aesthetic reasons etc).
Don't see how it's easier than just doing fixed perspective 3D.

Clarification from the boss himself: we're using a hybrid, some objects are full 3D like the roofs of buildings and large rocks, but smaller objects are pre-rendered/2D because that takes less GPU power and allows us to fill the maps with tons of detail without overly taxing your system, which is especially useful for lower-end systems. This allows us to go crazy with clutter and decoration. We can have hundreds of detailed items in buildings, all based on high-poly pre-renders, without affecting performance.
Interesting application of billboarding.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Alright, cut the bullshit. This looks way to good to be true. Someone key me in on the bullshit.
Console version, gay romances, woman empowerment, 1 000 000 words or something else.. I am sure something will show up eventually that Codex will hate :D

Yes the ports to other systems (C64 and Amiga) will have to be downgraded compared to the PC version because those systems just aren't as powerful, and since the Codex notoriously dislikes romances our romance arc with a lich princess which culminates in enslaving nations with necromancy together won't quite hit the tastes of the locals here, and our slightly exaggerated wordcount of 1 000 000 000 words might make people think there's too much filler text.

The earth suddenly shakes for a moment as thousands of Codexers spontaneously ejaculate at the same time
 

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Alright, cut the bullshit. This looks way to good to be true. Someone key me in on the bullshit.
Console version, gay romances, woman empowerment, 1 000 000 words or something else.. I am sure something will show up eventually that Codex will hate :D

Yes the ports to other systems (C64 and Amiga) will have to be downgraded compared to the PC version because those systems just aren't as powerful, and since the Codex notoriously dislikes romances our romance arc with a lich princess which culminates in enslaving nations with necromancy together won't quite hit the tastes of the locals here, and our slightly exaggerated wordcount of 1 000 000 000 words might make people think there's too much filler text.

The earth suddenly shakes for a moment as thousands of Codexers spontaneously ejaculate at the same time
Make sure that in addition game has lots of loading screens and that you need to walk everywhere to get anywhere. Also don't forget to have obscure UI and the game teleports you from some quests into combat.
 

fantadomat

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Those screenshots look good,far better from what i was expecting.:incline:
That's just graphics, don't be a graphics whore.

The writing will be shit and the game will be shit as is with all games. So relax.
I am not a graphics whore mate,that is why i was surprised. I was expecting a lot of good combat and maybe good story,not a good graphics. Also i must point out that graphics whores do have it easy,there is ton sparkly games that could bring them happiness.
 
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I was expecting a lot of good combat and maybe good story
Based on what?

Now ask yourself, would you expect good combat and good story if the game looked like the first screenshots of black geyser, when it looked like something done by Prosper?

Rather rhetorical question. You would not. In your mind, you associate graphics with story based on previous positive experiences. Don't do that. The story will be shit as is with most games, combat may be mediocre.
 

Tigranes

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The correct thing to do is have zero expectations. The best thing you can say about CC is that they haven't said anything that smells incompetent yet.

But then, given the number of codexers who are willing to have hope for BRACK GAISERU...
 
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they haven't said anything that smells incompetent yet.
I'm not sure about it, so feel free to correct me, but Jarl is not a native English speaker. If that's true, that raises HUGE concerns.

I'm a native Russian speaker, with French being my second language that I speak without accent. The sad fact is that being exposed to two languages simultaneously as a kid made me pretty weak at both. "Specialization is for insects", except when it comes to languages in which you're supposed to write.
 
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they haven't said anything that smells incompetent yet.
I'm not sure about it, so feel free to correct me, but Jarl is not a native English speaker. If that's true, that raises HUGE concerns.

I'm a native Russian speaker, with French being my second language that I speak without accent. The sad fact is that being exposed to two languages simultaneously as a kid made me pretty weak at both. "Specialization is for insects", except when it comes to languages in which you're supposed to write.
I am trilingual; can speak fluently in all three with the appropriate local accent (don't expect me to butcher english like one of the multiple uk accent in use though). I can also write essays (both technical and non technical) in two of those.

In this 3rd world shithole, before your higher technical education can even begin (engineering and medicine); you have to have a working knowledge of english.

Don’t be a pussy cuck and just give up muh two languages too hard.
 

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they haven't said anything that smells incompetent yet.
I'm not sure about it, so feel free to correct me, but Jarl is not a native English speaker. If that's true, that raises HUGE concerns.

I'm a native Russian speaker, with French being my second language that I speak without accent. The sad fact is that being exposed to two languages simultaneously as a kid made me pretty weak at both. "Specialization is for insects", except when it comes to languages in which you're supposed to write.

English is not my 'native' language, but I speak it better than my native, I write in it for a living, and writing for RPGs certainly doesn't require a profound mastery of the cultural and emotional layers that make up a language.

As far as I am concerned he is just another completely unproven dude who may turn out to be great, shit, or anything in between - and if he turns out to be shit, I think it's much more likely to be something other than language proficiency issues.
 

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
he is just another completely unproven dude
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I am trilingual; can speak fluently in all three with the appropriate local accent
I can also write essays
Don’t be a pussy cuck and just give up muh two languages too hard.
Fuck you, moron. Your post is so obviously for "bragging", not for discussion, that we can stop right there. English is my 3d language, too. I didn't discuss 3d language. Guess why? Cause it's irrelevant to the discussion, retard.

English is not my 'native' language, but I speak it better than my native, I write in it for a living, and writing for RPGs certainly doesn't require a profound mastery of the cultural and emotional layers that make up a language.
For me, native is the one you speak best. How this came to be is irrelevant. So I don't even know why you're talking about yourself.

As far as I am concerned he is just another completely unproven dude who may turn out to be great, shit, or anything in between - and if he turns out to be shit, I think it's much more likely to be something other than language proficiency issues.
You sure can be a kick ass writer with the vocabulary of an 8 year old. Cases of this are uniquely rare.
And it's not just vocab. E.g. I can't imitate a street gangsta or a Victorian lord in any language I know, because I never specialized in one. I'm guessing Jarl's case is similar.
 

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Let me put it this way. If I see some German dude writing his very first CRPG script, I think it's much more probable that it sucks for other reasons than language proficiency. I don't find it particularly efficient to worry about that part of it - but it is equally silly to say "oh I have a good feeling about CC's writing" at this stage.

And by the way, a 'native language' means one you learn from birth & in formative years. Maybe you can understand now. But everybody else did, it's OK.
 
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a 'native language' means one you learn from birth & in formative years
No, there are actually different definitions. One way to define it is related to the order in which you learned it. The other is through competence. Obviously, for this discussion, the order is of little significance.
 
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While I appreciate your unconventional trolling; you were far too blatant this time.

You are no Bubbles thats for sure.


From what I gather of JarlFrank even if German is his native, "best" and "highest priority" language and English is his "second";
his writing skills English is much better than some trailer trash meth junkie of amerikwa whos a native english speaker.

Obviously a very low bar, but the point stands.

Being second best at something a Thal will still exceed at it than a manboon who claims it as his primary expertise.

I would prefer Jarl write for this game in english rather than some pink haired sjw hire who is a English Native speaker.
 
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"Eat this rotten apple pie", said Heretic.

"No, thanks", Bester answered.

"Now why would you want to go and say something like that", Heretic asked. "This pie may be rotten, but it sure is better than a literal dog turd that I could go and fetch you right now."

"Right now," he repeated. "Look, the dog turd alternative may be low bar, but the point stands." He shoved the apple pie across the table to Bester. "Now you must eat it."

Bester sat silently and made no move towards the confection. His lack of appetite astounded Heretic. It made him question the foundation of the universe. "If he doesn't eat it, whatever will he do?", he wondered. To his disdain, he truly couldn't tell.
 

Citizen

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My experience with german RPGs is limited to RoA, so I expect only three things from RB:
  1. Quality autistic roleplaying system
  2. Quality autistic combat
  3. Quality autistic humor
That would be enough for me to enjoy it.
 

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