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Red Dead Redemption 2: Good or shit?

Pegultagol

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There's nothing quite like it anywhere and it's the most advanced showcase of tech, the open world sandbox benchmark only Rockstar can hope to surpass. That alone makes it worthwhile to experience it once. But the general plot starts off on thin rails and tumbles down quite a trajectory and lands with a thud onto a more complete and better conceived Red Dead Redemption. Come to think of it, play that instead if you haven't.

If you're up for it, I think you can demo the game on free Stadia trial.
 

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This and the Diablo 3 expansion have the dubious honour of being the only 'games' that have managed to put me to sleep, quite literally. I fell asleep while playing them. So, very shit.
 

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I found it kinda tedious because of its clunky mechanics and focus on immersion over gameplay, but I'd still call it a "good" one of these, i.e. open world marker following games.
 

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Didn't follow the yellow line? MISSION FAILED
 

YldrE

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Main arc over, I just started the epilogue.

As usual with these story/experience games, it's one of these games that are slow on purpose, there's a lot of uneventful mission design where you spend forever looking at horse anuses during dialogues, deviating the slightest will cause a mission failure, and even the third-person shooter mechanics are streamlined to the extreme.

Rockstar oblige, as far as virtual tourism goes it's absolutely stellar and the production values are through the roof; when it comes to storyfagging and sightseeing there's just nothing that can hope to match it. I was really into the story, I think the characters and their conflicts are well written, but it's more of a TV show rather than a movie: it's sprawling and often loses focus, getting into side arcs that drag on for too long and would rightly be culled in a feature-length movie.

If you're fine with that you'll love it as a Western sitcom, but if you're prone to ending fatigue you're going to suffer. As much as I loved it I'm glad the end is near.
 

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shitty cowboy story and they never shut the fuck up
Yeah this is a thing now in AAA video games. Remember when Garrett said one line every 60 minutes, and they were all great? Now they have to make a witty comment about every fucking thing in the universe, and since
1. no writer will be able to pull that off
2. when everything deserves a witty remark for being interesting, then nothing really is
it's really not good.

I especially dislike the ones about background. You're running around and your character suddenly goes "my father was a blacksmith. The silent kind, hit the hammer, light the fire, not much time or interest to show affection. Sometimes he would (...)" , Jesus Christ just kill me, that's so fucking bad, shut up no one's interested in your drama crap.
 

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I finished this earlier this year and liked it well enough as a slow, cinematic "art" game. Many frustrating aspects, but not enough to put me off it.
Would it be ok to just watch some LP then?
 

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Would it be ok to just watch some LP then?

I suppose, though there are a few ~moral choices~ to be made that you wouldn't necessarily agree with as well as specific narrative reactivity for doing things different/in a different order.
 
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I want to like this game so much, I would give my right testicle for a good open world wild west / dieselpunk shooter with "rpg elements". But, I swear to God, half of this game is cutscenes and the other half is "click E and then follow yellow line to push the plot further".
Fuck that.
 

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I'm incredibly disappointed in you Codex that no one has posted the video where guy goes 10 meters off the path and gets a "Mission failed" screen.
 

YldrE

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I swear to God, half of this game is cutscenes and the other half is "click E and then follow yellow line to push the plot further".
Happens with Rockstar. RDR2 is one of the games I enjoyed the most in the past few years, but damn if I wasn't tapping my feet in the first few hours. Stop yanking my chain, just fucking let me go roam around already.

That answer is always a cope-out but in this case it's actually warranted: stick to it and it will get better. You'll still contemplate your horse's anus a lot during dialogues though.
 
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That answer is always a cope-out but in this case it's actually warranted: stick to it and it will get better.

Oh, I will stick to it for sure, I really like the story (it's a minor masterpiece in comparison to what currently happens in AAA screenwriting), but the game really wants to be perceived as an immersive sim (behold the horses taking a dump regularly! woohoo!) - but is actually a glorified interactive movie instead.
Suffice it to say it's one of the very few pieces of fiction that made me butthurt about some characters dying.

Undoubtedly worth the 50% off pricetag (thank you Chinese overlords for the lunar Steam sale).
 

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Hello all,

I have been getting mixed messages about this game. Hordes of people online reckon it is the 'best game evar' but I have seen a number of quality posters talk about it being more restrictive than the GTA formula. Also talk of a lot of PC bugs, though that was a while ago, so these might be ironed out?

For reference, I enjoyed GTA VC, GTA SA and GTA V.

So is it worth a purchase? Or is it another "Oblibion is the best game evar"?
Shit is in the eye of the beholder.

Sexist RP, don't take seriously:
You're a woman, so you should like a more story-focused game, and besides what would you know about westerns.
 

GmanLoc

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The best part about Red Dead is that it's a sandbox you can do whatever in. So it sucks that you can't access Mexico, and free roam online blows because R won't leave GTA alone.
 

Silva

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Play Ghost of Tsushima instead. It's far from great but much better than this RDR2 turd.
 
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The best part about Red Dead is that it's a sandbox you can do whatever in.

My biggest beef here is that you are only allowed to do things the game lets you in any given moment. You can't run whenever you want, you can't ride whenever you want, and, the worst of all, you can't access your weapons whenever you want - sometimes the game picks the guns you can use [in a mission] for you. This pissess on the whole "muh immersuv sim" illusion.

This game is a glorified interactive movie.

Maybe if you're an averge certified console retard then such state of affairs is a norm in modern games, I don't know, I hate all this Metal Gear Solid/Dark Souls/God of War/Some-other-rando-push-A-to-do-cool-things-game
 

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This game is a glorified interactive movie.
I see you've never engaged in the routine of living in the woods, killing deer for food and turning in skins for some change which you then spend on poker and whiskey. But that's on you.


The game very intentionally has two distinct "modes" - freeform murderhobo/trapper simulator meant for the boomer audience, and on-rails main missions, targeted at the zoomer console retards. I can say I don't care about my camp buddies one bit and don't see them for weeks.
 

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Was this posted anywhere here? Guy nails the biggest issues in the game.
 
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I see you've never engaged in the routine of living in the woods, killing deer for food and turning in skins for some change which you then spend on poker and whiskey. But that's on you.

Sounds like what these retards "LARPing" in Skyrim do.

freeform murderhobo/trapper simulator meant for...

Sounds like what I did in Grand Theft Auto when I was twelve.
 

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Sounds like what these retards "LARPing" in Skyrim do.
LARPing is when you do things that aren't acknowledged by the game. Engaging with the systems is what they're there for.
 

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Sounds like what these retards "LARPing" in Skyrim do.



Sounds like what I did in Grand Theft Auto when I was twelve.
It's essentially a "boomer who grew up with westerns living out his dreams" gameplay. Which is just fine for me. I'm in a huge sandbox with hunting, gambling, robbing, bounties, secrets, various challenges. Just the sandbox part is huge. I totally agree on the railroaded interactive movie missions and the agenda, but I wouldn't say it destroys the game.

Sounds like what I did in Grand Theft Auto when I was twelve.
Good for you. The slow paced cowboy larping is just great for me at the age I am today though. I guess Houser was feeling a lot like I do.

BTW when I played the original GTA I never really spent any time larping, just played through the mission chains.
 

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