*redacted*

[DarkUnderlord]

https://letsencrypt.org/

here

automated, free, can't be easier

literally every single website on the internet has https, why is codex still in the dark ages?
if you're too lazy to do it yourselves just give me server credentials and I'll do it for you gee

Your "it's current year" meme is invalid here.

 

[garren]

In all seriousness, more security is always a good thing, the Codex should have this.

 

[jcd]

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[Western]

If DU got some kind of lawsuit/subpoena I don't think security would help. Though I suppose it would help some devs or higher profile people from hacks/doxxing. We are approaching a time where being associated with this place is a liability, a weapon to be used against you if there's some reason for someone to wish to do so.

 

[gaussgunner]

What is https?

It's shit. I get where jcd's coming from but it's a pain in the ass for site admins, it causes downtime, openssl is a piece of shit with new security holes constantly emerging, and you can't trust the certificate authorities.

It won't do much to prevent doxxing. All it offers is a slight SEO boost and a little hacking protection for public wifi users without a VPN.

 

[Outlander]

Even the Watch has https

 

[hpstg]

https prevents man in the middle attacks (most of them at least), which are the French cuisine of phishing. It's one of the main reasons (apart from the even more serious privacy issue that some retards find, or pretend to find, incomprehensible) that literally anything with a lot of links should be using https.

You're wrong about one thing though, jcd. It does cost in CPU time for the server, although depending on the configuration the cost might be negligible.

 

[laclongquan]

For Codex, that cost might be significant. Codex has been running almost without complaint, crossing my fingers here, for a while now but I remember how things were just two, three years ago.
Things can always get worse.
So, yeah, anything broken that need such fix?

 

[jcd]

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[gaussgunner]

see this is not up for discussion, you either use encryption or you're begging to be exposed to all sorts of attacks and leak private information left and right

You'll still be leaking info to 3rd party trackers unless you use uMatrix to block all that shit (including image embeds which are allowed by default). Or TOR Browser with paranoid settings. They track you by IP address, cookies, html5 canvas fingerprinting, browser signatures... if you use any other sites from the same browser or IP, it's sufficient for doxxing.

 

[laclongquan]

If you are that paranoid of private information leaking, either browsing discretely at your home system with full shields, or not at all. Any other compromise just give you a false promise of being protective.

We are in the INTERNET age after all.

 

[gaussgunner]

Also. If HTTPS is any good for privacy, how come Google is pushing it the hardest?

 

[hpstg]

Also. If HTTPS is any good for privacy, how come Google is pushing it the hardest?

Please honestly say if you are trolling, or you really have no idea.

 

[gaussgunner]

Even the Watch has https

They were also down for a week last month.

If DU has time to set up HTTPS the right way, fine, it will improve security a little. But it's a pain in the ass. These guys acting like it's easy-peasy have never done it themselves or they're doing it wrong.

 

[jcd]

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[laclongquan]

Aaaaaaah~ So it's an issue of being up to date, fashionable thingy, right.... hipster~

 

[jcd]

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[gaussgunner]

Has any codex user actually been hacked or doxxed as a result of unencrypted HTTP?

 

[Zep Zepo]

Has any codex user actually been hacked or doxxed as a result of unencrypted HTTP?

I never brought it up before, but my credit card was compromised when I donated to D:OS here.

Zep--

 

[hpstg]

Also. If HTTPS is any good for privacy, how come Google is pushing it the hardest?

So you are indeed retarded. Just the login information grabbed by a third party can lead to a lot of bad things, from doxxing to stealing credentials to whatever you can imagine leading from that. We shouldn't even be talking on how this is necessary, the issue is if the hosting setup can take it, and what we can do if it doesn't. I don't usually agree with jcd, but he's right on this one.

 

[DavidBVal]

I'm sure a good chunk of codexers use the same password here than in their google accounts or other sites. So yeah, encrypt. Even if that wasn't the case, jcd is right on principle anyways. You don't expose data if you can avoid it with a little work.

 

[Taluntain]

It's 2016? Oh shi-

We'd probably need a bit more juice to handle https but hey, we haven't had a donation drive in a while.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Well if people got their credit card hacked when participating in Codex based event then by all means, please do move to HTTPS. If there is any valid reason to, getting your fucking credit card hacked gotta be one.

 

[Taluntain]

I'd like to see some actual evidence of that, because having your credit card exploited at about the same time that you made a donation on the Codex and automatically assuming that it was indeed due to that is reaching at best.

 

[gaussgunner]

1 compromised CC could be a coincidence, and if there was a clear pattern Paypal would've frozen the Codex's account. I'm surprised they still allow it on HTTP sites though. Not that it matters; when you donate here it redirects you to Paypal's HTTPS site to enter your CC.