Revisiting VtM: Bloodlines

[HansDampf]

Jeanette is easy. Therese is the problem. Worst case you'd have to go back to your first meeting with her. Tell her you're glad Jeanette isn't here, etc. (but don't suggest to kill her).
Or change the variable.

 

[Lacrymas]

Therese is the problem.

The quality ones always are.

 

[aeroaeko]

VV makes my PP go WEEWEE

 

[alyvain]

Damn I promised myself I wouldn't touch this game ever again, but it's so comfy to play on a winter night

 

[Storyfag]

Blood's your new heroin.

 

[Swigen]

Killed Kanker, figured it’s all gravy from now on, an now Bishop is pushing my shit in!

 

[Delterius]

Killed Kanker, figured it’s all gravy from now on, an now Bishop is pushing my shit in!

wait until you fight the pope

 

[Verylittlefishes]

Blood's your new heroin.

@Fluent

 

[cruel]

I finished the game yesterday, playing it for the first time in full (previously never made it past the tutorial). Overall, good game and every RPG fan should play it, but... I get an impression it's a little bit over-hyped.

Some of the aspects of the game are truly top notch / world class:
- characters
- writing
- atmosphere

And those are, of course, very important things. But, the list of stuff that's NOT top notch is also pretty big:
- combat sucks
- most magic happens in the first 10h of the game
- last 1/4 of the game is crap, feels rushed
- exploration is meh
- itemization sucks (less than 10 melee weapons in the whole game)
- some of the dungeons design is a disgrace (Warrens, Hallowbrook Hotel)
- there are still bugs, after millions of patches for 15+ years

Overall - it's a good game, but IMO doesn't deserve to be put in the same league (as a whole package) as Planescape: Torment, BG2 or Deus Ex.

 

[ga♥]

I don't think it's over hyped. There's not a comparable experience.

 

[Storyfag]

I finished the game yesterday, playing it for the first time in full (previously never made it past the tutorial). Overall, good game and every RPG fan should play it, but... I get an impression it's a little bit over-hyped.

Some of the aspects of the game are truly top notch / world class:
- characters
- writing
- atmosphere

And those are, of course, very important things. But, the list of stuff that's NOT top notch is also pretty big:
- combat sucks
- most magic happens in the first 10h of the game
- last 1/4 of the game is crap, feels rushed
- exploration is meh
- itemization sucks (less than 10 melee weapons in the whole game)
- some of the dungeons design is a disgrace (Warrens, Hallowbrook Hotel)
- there are still bugs, after millions of patches for 15+ years

Overall - it's a good game, but IMO doesn't deserve to be put in the same league (as a whole package) as Planescape: Torment, BG2 or Deus Ex.

The issues you list here are all true. But the three positives you mentioned first far outweigh the issues. Bloodlines is well worth to be ranked along the likes of Planescape.

Also, Wesp's Unofficial Patch helps. A lot.

 

[Jason Liang]

- exploration is meh

Which clan did you play? You should play either Nos or Malk to appeciate exploration in this game

- itemization sucks (less than 10 melee weapons in the whole game)

It's not much worse than the early GTAs

- some of the dungeons design is a disgrace (Warrens, Hallowbrook Hotel)

nitpicks, pretty much every rpg has a few stinkers

- there are still bugs, after millions of patches for 15+ years

which did you encounter? would be useful for Wesp5

It also depends on *how* you play the game. If you played by following a walkthrough, then you will have a more disappointing experience

 

[S.torch]

few stinkers

All the dungeons in the second half of the game are bad. They are not "few".

 

[ga♥]

few stinkers

All the dungeons in the second half of the game are bad. They are not "few".

Chinatown dungeon is breddy gud.

 

[cruel]

I played as Tremere, zero walkthroughs / guides of course (probably one of the reasons why I failed to save both sisters, and I failed to get Tremere haven as well). But this is the only true way of playing for me. I did a melee build with some blood magic mixed in.

I played with latest unofficial patch from Wesp - version 10.5. Some of the bugs I had:
- game hanging on sisters (Tourette) encounter; needed to load earlier save
- stuck in environment 2 or 3 times
- stuck in Asylum once, one of the ladies kept blocking the door
- 2 or 3 other minor glitches I don't remember well

Nothing game breaking if you keep older saves, but still.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Tremere is the patrician's choice. Both in terms of gameplay (builds & hideout) and of plot.

Strauss ending >>> All.

 

[Storyfag]

I played as Tremere (...) I did a melee build

Tremere is the patrician's choice.

Sorry friend, but Ventrue is the patrician's choice

Both in terms of gameplay (builds & hideout) and of plot.

Strauss ending >>> All.

This, however, is true. At least as far as the original content goes. In this case I shall have to give this renegade bloodline of the Tzimisce their due.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Sorry friend, but Ventrue is the patrician's choice

I'll concede in terms of setting and not VtMB itself. That being said, Old Brujah > Ventrue shmucks.

 

[Storyfag]

Sorry friend, but Ventrue is the patrician's choice

I'll concede in terms of setting and not VtMB itself. That being said, Old Brujah > Ventrue shmucks.

Still, in the end, Voivodes above all. I imagine you, hailing from Bulgaria, would agree.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Still, in the end, Voivodes above all. I imagine you, hailing from Bulgaria, would agree.

Some of my medieval ancestors maybe, but I'm from a wee bit to the North-East.

Spoiler

That being said, I don't really like the fleshcrafting shtick of the Tzimisce.

 

[fantadomat]

Sorry friend, but Ventrue is the patrician's choice

I'll concede in terms of setting and not VtMB itself. That being said, Old Brujah > Ventrue shmucks.

Old brujah were still a bunch of libtard cucks that got owned.

 

[Delterius]

I become depressed every time this game ends.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Sorry friend, but Ventrue is the patrician's choice

I'll concede in terms of setting and not VtMB itself. That being said, Old Brujah > Ventrue shmucks.

Old brujah were still a bunch of libtard cucks that got owned.

More like autistic Codexers, while some of the latter also fit into the niggardly behavior of the modern Brujah.

I become depressed every time this game ends.

Once you play a normal playthrough and then try out Nosferatu and Malkavian, I can't really see it having that much replay value.

 

[Delterius]

Nosferatu and Malkavian, I can't really see it having that much replay value.

I replay it every year as a ritual, scrub.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Nosferatu and Malkavian, I can't really see it having that much replay value.

I replay it every year as a ritual, scrub.

To each their own, lad.