Rise of the Tomb Raider - Watch Lara's bum in NextGen fidelity

[JarlFrank]

Seriously, whoever directed this game has a serious damsel in distress fetish.

You barely even touched on the straight up snuff porn in TR2013. It wasn't just the parachute scene; there are a ton of QTE failures that lead to unnecessarily torturous deaths. I remember one "swept down a river" sequence where if you don't press the button in time, Lara gets caught on a sharpened log that stabs upward through her jaw into her brain as the water keeps trying to drag her downstream. Really fucking horrible, and really gratuitous, and yeah, you know at least one producer saved a high res video collection of all the QTE deaths for his private "enjoyment". Made me sick seeing that, not really sure how they got away with it actually.

I barely failed any of the QTEs, but I did get that scene yeah. I think it was some long metal rod sticking out from a plane wreck, and if you didn't dodge it Lara would impale her jaw on it and croak while her hands limply claw at the pole sticking through her face. Very detailed death animation.
The one where you get impaled on a tree branch during the parachute scene is the same animation.

But really, the most unnecessary scene of violence is at the start, when she gets a rusty metal rod piercing her side, then you have to pull it out with a QTE. And the wound stays on her character model throughout the game (and she never bandages it even though it's the worst wound she receives in the entire game lmao).

I quite enjoy gory games, got a lot of hours in Postal 2, but TR's violence feels different. Like someone in the dev team really, really enjoys watching a young woman suffer.

 

[JarlFrank]

Timestamped the one. Really feels like part of a snuff film, lmao.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

I quite enjoy gory games, got a lot of hours in Postal 2, but TR's violence feels different. Like someone in the dev team really, really enjoys watching a young woman suffer.

Like I said, I'm pretty sure it was Pratchett that was pushing that stuff, but, regardless, whomever it was clearly got told to stop, because Rise is much, much, tamer in this department, although I think it also ended up making it much less "WTF" lol-worthy.

 

[lightbane]

- Later on, you get a parachute scene where you have to avoid trees (if you crash into them, Lara gets impaled on a branch and you get a very detailed animation of her gasping her last breath while clawing at the tree branch sticking through her chest). At the end of the scene, when you finally land on the ground, Lara for the first time in the game requires medical aid because of an open wound, even though she's had worse wounds before. You have to go to a crashed helicopter and loot its medical compartment. While you go there, Lara's walking animation looks very pained, and she keeps moaning and whining as you walk. Trying to climb makes her scream out, say "It hurts too much" and drop down. When you reach the helicopter, surprise surprise - the medical shelf is empty! But she finds a lighter in the pocket of the dead pilot, so she uses it to heat up one of her arrows, and uses the hot arrow to cauterize her wound. She loudly screams in pain, and then we get several seconds of close-up of Lara's face while she's crying.

Oh right, that over-the-top hilarious scene where her regen factor is overworked and she has to use that EXTREME! method to heal herself. You didn't mention the best part though, that despite her limited movement... There's still a sudden case of Russian spawning from literally behind trash to make a popamole shooting encounter to pad the game. It adds NOTHING and feels silly because Lara's ability to shot is not affected in the least. After such ordeal, Lara can keep moving just fine.
She does remember to grab her wounded side from time to time, but then she quickly forgets about it when she jumps away from an exploding arrow landing near her.
Or that scene in the river where she's hit by countless debris, and Lara still jokes about it that the others probably didn't have such trouble getting to the beach.

Like someone in the dev team really, really enjoys watching a young woman suffer.

Seems to be the trend in games with certain type of people as directors. See Last of Us 2.

 

[Norfleet]

Oh, it triggered me enough to stop playing it completely and just uninstall it. To top it off the game's Super Sampling is broken and doesn't actually work; it will halve your frame rate but won't work as intended, anti-aliasing less than the SMAA or the FXAA. Additionally, the SMAA implementation is subpar as well, which means the only working AA in Rise of the TR is the FXAA.

Let's suppose I just don't use any AA, how's that work out? If I feel my game isn't blurry enough, I have VodkAA for that.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Oh, dear! Mild spoilers:

Spoiler

 

[Wunderbar]

Speaking of violence.
The third game has a photo mode where you can change Lara's facial expressions. The internet is full of lulzy screenshots with Lara being impaled on wooden stakes/arrows/spears with a stupid smile on her face.

 

[Grunker]

Seriously, whoever directed this game has a serious damsel in distress fetish.

You barely even touched on the straight up snuff porn in TR2013. It wasn't just the parachute scene; there are a ton of QTE failures that lead to unnecessarily torturous deaths. I remember one "swept down a river" sequence where if you don't press the button in time, Lara gets caught on a sharpened log that stabs upward through her jaw into her brain as the water keeps trying to drag her downstream. Really fucking horrible, and really gratuitous, and yeah, you know at least one producer saved a high res video collection of all the QTE deaths for his private "enjoyment". Made me sick seeing that, not really sure how they got away with it actually.

People read a bit too much into this IMHO. We're talking about the year of Game of Thrones' real rise, the edge of “totally realistic superheroes, man,” etc. Basically 2013 was PEAK GRIMDARK. And so of course Tomb Raider remake had to be that as well. In addition, the whole game was built around this inspiration:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/

Was torture porn part of it? Sure. But not in any way that tons of popular movies and TV shows hadn't experimented with at the time.

 

[AwesomeButton]

People read a bit too much into this IMHO. We're talking about the year of Game of Thrones' real rise, the edge of “totally realistic superheroes, man,” etc. Basically 2013 was PEAK GRIMDARK. And so of course Tomb Raider remake had to be that as well. In addition, the whole game was built around this inspiration:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/

Was torture porn part of it? Sure. But not in any way that tons of popular movies and TV shows hadn't experimented with at the time.

Wow, fully deserving of a 7.2 score on IMDB

 

[Wunderbar]

People read a bit too much into this IMHO. We're talking about the year of Game of Thrones' real rise, the edge of “totally realistic superheroes, man,” etc. Basically 2013 was PEAK GRIMDARK. And so of course Tomb Raider remake had to be that as well. In addition, the whole game was built around this inspiration:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/

Was torture porn part of it? Sure. But not in any way that tons of popular movies and TV shows hadn't experimented with at the time.

Wow, fully deserving of a 7.2 score on IMDB

it's a good film.

 

[Grunker]

Wow, fully deserving of a 7.2 score on IMDB

It's actually decent (no pun intended). Much better and more focused than its overpopular predecessors Saw and Hostel, which are both pretty bad.

 

[Wunderbar]

Frankly i don't even remember any of the gore scenes in The Descent, the film focuses mostly on a claustrophobia and a fear of darkness.

 

[Grunker]

Scott Tobias summarized my opinion of the movie fairly well here. Any fan of horror movies should definetely watch it.

 

[Sodafish]

People read a bit too much into this IMHO. We're talking about the year of Game of Thrones' real rise, the edge of “totally realistic superheroes, man,” etc. Basically 2013 was PEAK GRIMDARK. And so of course Tomb Raider remake had to be that as well. In addition, the whole game was built around this inspiration:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/

Was torture porn part of it? Sure. But not in any way that tons of popular movies and TV shows hadn't experimented with at the time.

Wow, fully deserving of a 7.2 score on IMDB

it's a good film.

No.

I could never understand the fuss made of this POS. It's pure schlock, and not in a good way.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

The Descent was decent schlock.

 

[fork]

The thing about The Descent (and Descent 2) is that they're imo quite good when you watch them for the first time, but they collapse completely when rewatching. The discrepancy between first and second viewing is quite extreme.

 

[Zombra]

The Descent was decent schlock.

Or "deschent" for short.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Ja ja, zat weri deschent.

Sorry I don't speak Dutch.

 

[Sodafish]

they're imo quite good when you watch them for the first time

Again, no. One viewing was quite sufficient to judge it total crap.

 

[lightbane]

n addition, the whole game was built around this inspiration:

That explains a lot. Never watched that movie nor knew about it until now. Still, I think the try-hard nature of the first Nu-TR game was due having multiple writers with contradictory ideas pushing in every direction. Notice how Lara needs to feed and take refuge like ONCE in the entire game.

 

[Zombra]

I think the try-hard nature of the first Nu-TR game was due having multiple writers with contradictory ideas pushing in every direction.

Yeah. The "committee design" of the series really hurts it. They should split it into at least two distinct games imo.

 

[Arthandas]

I can't believe how fucking dumb this game is. Detailed map showing you exactly where you are and where you need to go (which is also completely pointless since environments are so small it's impossible to get lost), monoliths/maps/sachels marking all collectibles on the map (so you just end up running from marker to marker like a fucking retard), survival instincts highlighting everything, QTEs, abundance of climbing/running sections where you simply hold one direction with an occasional jump, combat for idiots where you either push a single button for a stealth kill or stay behind cover and headshot everyone, and to top it off Lara is so fucking insufferable pretending to have a personality while strangling, beating to death, executing or burning alive everything that moves like a fucking Grim Reaper. Everything she touches either crumbles or explodes like you're in a Michael Bay's movie. Literally the first tomb you enter has an optional challenge of shooting the ancient incense burners xD I'm surprised you can't take a dump on the corpses and cover the walls in graffiti (though you can and will blow the entire crypt up in a later cutscene xD).
Almost two decades of technological advances and TR1 is still a better game that never treats you like an idiot (which you are if you're playing the reboots).

 

[Pound Meat]

Imagine basing your game on a shitty feminist movie. Gross.

In its defense, the original PS1 games were infamous for the many ways you could kill Lara, but the 32-bit graphics and lack of blood made her demises more amusing than shocking. I'm surprised they're still doing that in Current Year (or even 2013) and aren't getting blowback for violence against women.

 

[Beggar]

I can't believe how fucking dumb this game is. Detailed map showing you exactly where you are and where you need to go (which is also completely pointless since environments are so small it's impossible to get lost), monoliths/maps/sachels marking all collectibles on the map (so you just end up running from marker to marker like a fucking retard), survival instincts highlighting everything, QTEs, abundance of climbing/running sections where you simply hold one direction with an occasional jump, combat for idiots where you either push a single button for a stealth kill or stay behind cover and headshot everyone, and to top it off Lara is so fucking insufferable pretending to have a personality while strangling, beating to death, executing or burning alive everything that moves like a fucking Grim Reaper. Everything she touches either crumbles or explodes like you're in a Michael Bay's movie. Literally the first tomb you enter has an optional challenge of shooting the ancient incense burners xD I'm surprised you can't take a dump on the corpses and cover the walls in graffiti (though you can and will blow the entire crypt up in a later cutscene xD).
Almost two decades of technological advances and TR1 is still a better game that never treats you like an idiot (which you are if you're playing the reboots).

I played the first nu tumb raider when it came out. And till this day I'm in shock. It's the worst game I ever played. Anyone who likes this garbage is netflix level retard to me

 

[Sykar]

I played the very first one roughly 7 years ago. Bought it in some summer bundle for pretty cheap, 5 Euro bucks or something like that. I can for the life of me not remember anything about the game. It was as forgettable as Kingdoms of Banalur.