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Spectacle

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Here's my BG3 review, feel free to post it on the main page.
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luj1

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I actually got BG3 as a gift from a fellow Codexer, but it was unbearable to play for long. Frankly I am not a fan of Dragon Age style of games (cinematic dialogue, voice acting, annoying companions, etc.) which I predicted BG3 will turn out to be. What was particularly sad was the paper thin ruleset. For example, picking different races offered very little distinction in terms of rules, etc. It is frankly unacceptable for a computer role playing game. System wise something like KotC 2 Hearkenwold is light years ahead. I don't care about your production value.
 

Ladonna

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Back in last February, I thought the Harry Potter CRPG would take the crown for sure, with the way the Codex was gushing over it. I don't think anyone has mentioned it once in this thread. Ships in the Night.
 

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I actually got BG3 as a gift from a fellow Codexer, but it was unbearable to play for long. Frankly I am not a fan of Dragon Age style of games (cinematic dialogue, voice acting, annoying companions, etc.) which I predicted BG3 will turn out to be. What was particularly sad was the paper thin ruleset. For example, picking different races offered very little distinction in terms of rules, etc. It is frankly unacceptable for a computer role playing game. System wise something like KotC 2 Hearkenwold is light years ahead. I don't care about your production value.
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/578
Reverts Racial Ability Score Bonuses from floating +2/+1 to PHB Rules.
But yeah I prefer AD&D 2 or 3.5 myself. Don't like fifth edition (I have never played tabletop though).
EDIT: Also there are good based mods on rpghq like no alphabet.
https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1122-no-alphabets-4-4-1-baldur-s-gate-3
 

mediocrepoet

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Back in last February, I thought the Harry Potter CRPG would take the crown for sure, with the way the Codex was gushing over it. I don't think anyone has mentioned it once in this thread. Ships in the Night.
Is that thing an RPG? Thought it was one of those story driven action adventure games like Last of Us or new God of War.
 

Butter

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Back in last February, I thought the Harry Potter CRPG would take the crown for sure, with the way the Codex was gushing over it. I don't think anyone has mentioned it once in this thread. Ships in the Night.
Is that thing an RPG? Thought it was one of those story driven action adventure games like Last of Us or new God of War.
It's a typical skill tree action game. Narratively and mechanically it's nothing remarkable. It got a positive reception for its well-realized environments and for pissing off the right people.
 

Tyranicon

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Back in last February, I thought the Harry Potter CRPG would take the crown for sure, with the way the Codex was gushing over it. I don't think anyone has mentioned it once in this thread. Ships in the Night.

I don't think any posters here could be said to gush over it. I remember it being a sort of amused disdain. Something like this:

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Lord_Potato

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Back in last February, I thought the Harry Potter CRPG would take the crown for sure, with the way the Codex was gushing over it. I don't think anyone has mentioned it once in this thread. Ships in the Night.
Is that thing an RPG? Thought it was one of those story driven action adventure games like Last of Us or new God of War.
Well, it has a 113-pages long thread in GRPG, so I guess...
 

Skinwalker

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Back in last February, I thought the Harry Potter CRPG would take the crown for sure, with the way the Codex was gushing over it. I don't think anyone has mentioned it once in this thread. Ships in the Night.

I don't think any posters here could be said to gush over it. I remember it being a sort of amused disdain. Something like this:

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This is wrong. Codex isn't watching idiots fight with other idiots. Codex is idiots fighting with other idiots.
 

Roguey

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Back in last February, I thought the Harry Potter CRPG would take the crown for sure, with the way the Codex was gushing over it. I don't think anyone has mentioned it once in this thread. Ships in the Night.
It was just another polished Ubislop-style game.
 

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I'd put down $150 for a codex review for BG3 written by Drakortha on the front page
That means I would have to actually play it. Don't do this to me.
You can just watch 140 hours of cutscenes on youtube and review that if it works better for you. I'm pretty sure that the only difference between playthroughs is which gay guy you smooch and talk about your feelings with.
 

Lord of Riva

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I actually got BG3 as a gift from a fellow Codexer, but it was unbearable to play for long. Frankly I am not a fan of Dragon Age style of games (cinematic dialogue, voice acting, annoying companions, etc.) which I predicted BG3 will turn out to be. What was particularly sad was the paper thin ruleset. For example, picking different races offered very little distinction in terms of rules, etc. It is frankly unacceptable for a computer role playing game. System wise something like KotC 2 Hearkenwold is light years ahead. I don't care about your production value.

Yes, also the story is pretty average at best and full of cringe-worthy stuff even aside the political themes and agenda.
Additionally, the "choice and consequences" are not really remarkable at all. It's nothing we have not seen before, a Kotor 2, Arcanum or fallout has way better C&C.

Even if were to pretend it's an actually good game (which I don't think it is) all the talk about it innovating or redefining stuff is completely baseless.
 
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Shaki

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I actually got BG3 as a gift from a fellow Codexer, but it was unbearable to play for long. Frankly I am not a fan of Dragon Age style of games (cinematic dialogue, voice acting, annoying companions, etc.) which I predicted BG3 will turn out to be. What was particularly sad was the paper thin ruleset. For example, picking different races offered very little distinction in terms of rules, etc. It is frankly unacceptable for a computer role playing game. System wise something like KotC 2 Hearkenwold is light years ahead. I don't care about your production value.

Yes, also the story is pretty average at best and full of cringe-worthy stuff even aside the political stuff.
Additionally, the "choice and consequences" are not really remarkable at all. It's nothing we have not seen before, a Kotor 2, Arcanum or fallout has way better C&C.

Even if were to pretend it's an actually good game (which I don't think it is) all the talk about it innovating or redefining stuff is completely baseless.
I think a lot of people still pretending it has some revolutionary C&C, is just sunk cost fallacy in action. Most of the dudes saying this, are the usual suspects who were repeating that PR shit endlessly for 2 years and hundreds of pages, while the game was still in beta. As I said before, I get why they fell for it, beta had a lot of choices, and it looked like they would result in a massively different outcomes in the full version, and if you're a sucker for corpo promises, you could easily believe that.

After actually seeing the full game, the illusion of choice very quickly falls apart on closer inspection, but it's not surprising that people who spend multiple years being Larian shills for free based on Swen's promises, would rather deny reality and pretend the game is actually groundbreaking, than admit they were acting retarded and bought into the hype like 10IQ consoomer normies.
 

Drakortha

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I think a lot of people still pretending it has some revolutionary C&C, is just sunk cost fallacy in action. Most of the dudes saying this, are the usual suspects who were repeating that PR shit endlessly for 2 years and hundreds of pages, while the game was still in beta. As I said before, I get why they fell for it, beta had a lot of choices, and it looked like they would result in a massively different outcomes in the full version, and if you're a sucker for corpo promises, you could easily believe that.

After actually seeing the full game, the illusion of choice very quickly falls apart on closer inspection, but it's not surprising that people who spend multiple years being Larian shills for free based on Swen's promises, would rather deny reality and pretend the game is actually groundbreaking, than admit they were acting retarded and bought into the hype like 10IQ consoomer normies.
Wasn't C&C the entire reasoning they gave as to why there was not going to be Day/Night cycles? "The full game is going to have tremendous C&C, it would be impossible to combine that complexity with a Day/Night cycle and NPC schedules!"

I remember reading that excuse countless times in the pre-release thread and on Reddit whenever the topic came up. Surprise Surprise, they were full of shit.
 

Drakortha

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i dunno men, from what i gather some of the consequences to your choices include getting buttfucked by an illithid, so i would say that is pretty significant
Consequence of playing that shit game. I guess you're right.
 

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